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Beovision 7 floor stand with non-BO TV -- possible?

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Olivier F
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Olivier F Posted: Sat, Jan 7 2017 2:41 PM

Hello,

I just sold my Beovision 7-40 screen and was wondering if I could re-use the floor stand to hang a non-BO tv set? I think there's a need for a kind of VESA adaptor to put on the B&O stand but I have not yet been able to find out anything suitable (in spite of googling intensively for a few hours).

STBBrackets seems to provide somehow different things (to put Playstation or set-top boxes on the BO tv), I will nevertheless ask them.

Does anyone has a brilliant idea?

NB not even talking of using the motor or the Beolab 7.4...

Thanks for your feedback,
-- Olivier

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davidr replied on Mon, Jan 9 2017 4:15 PM

Sorry I am not offering an answer rather I'd like to know as well. In theory it should be an adapter plate of some sort to standard VESA.

STB brackets are probably your best case.

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I’m going through this currently. 

I took the motorised wall bracket to a local metal fabrication shop and he quoted approx 2 hours labour and approx cost A$200 for him to whip up a bracket to go from the stand to a VESA ...

The only problem will be how to get the not used floor stand to turn with the Beo4 remote... 

 

I remember reading something somewhere about wiring options but off the top of my head cannot recall... will research more in due course

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Check this out:

 

https://www.stbbrackets.co.uk/en-GB/product/LG-65c9-LG-55c9/VESA-Adapter-BeoVision-7-40

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chickenceo:

Check this out:

https://www.stbbrackets.co.uk/en-GB/product/LG-65c9-LG-55c9/VESA-Adapter-BeoVision-7-40

STBBrackets.com only supplies VESA adapters for the B&O motor stands,

unfortunately there is still no electronic solution to reactivate the stand motor without B&O TV !

wilfried

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matador43 replied on Mon, Feb 17 2020 12:02 PM

Olivier F:

Does anyone has a brilliant idea?

Leogonewild (now  ___) did have one: 
Flash your B&O - new thread! -

I'm quite sure any reasonably sized TV is today lighter than your old BV-40 with AR glass.
So find a Vesa mount, drill some holes, add some screws and it should be fine and nice to see.

For the motor control, as far as i know, lot of people did try but nobody succeed so far, be it with electronic stuff or raspberry thingy or voodoo sorcery.
But I have to say that my experience is that the motor stand is part of the B&O magic we all want to experience but is really useful in very rare situations. 

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matador43 replied on Mon, Feb 17 2020 12:03 PM

Oh, Just see you're in Paris… Happy to help IRL if needed…

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this documentation could be helpful

TT455-RT-238 - Pulsing output for tv-stand:

http://www.lintronic.dk/AppNote_PulsingOutput.pdf

wilfried

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Out of interest stb also have a YouTube channel where they confirm it is manual. But it’s still good to watch to see how it will look

https://youtu.be/9ExYkixF0c4
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I’m pretty handy with electronics... there’s some other comments here too and I was able to isolate some of the pins which I thought controlled the stand left and right, but had troubles then to work out a cable solution and controlling via the Beo4 remote.  Also didn’t want to irreversibly dismantle the stand and wiring 🙄

I reckon it’s doable but just needs someone with a really strong elec background and lots of time to put their heads together...  

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ed7 replied on Mon, Mar 9 2020 5:13 AM

I have seen this on the net no idea about the price or product looks similar style to B&O🤭.  https://www.futureautomation.co.uk/Product/Details/FME

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@ Aravind Viswanath. Here's the help I can vive.

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Thanks for this info Peter Pan.
the stand for the BV 7-40 also has a tilt function in addition to rotating, how is it differentiated whether I want to turn or tilt the TV?

wilfried

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@ W.Frankenberg.   - For the stand for the BV 7-40.

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W.Frankenberg:
how is it differentiated whether I want to turn or tilt the TV?

Hi Frankenberg

I might be at lot easier if you specify EXACTLY what you want to achieve. TV, remote, type of stand etc... Then I might be able to help you.

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@ BEOVOX141

the thread heading actually says what I want exactly:

operate a motorized stand from a BV7 with a BEO4, without Beovision 7 TV.

@PeterPan

thanks for the BEO4 instructions for operating the tilt function on the BV 7-40.

Judging by the pin assignment of the stand, the movements of the stand are controlled with voltage values

between 0 and 5 volts, how does the stand recognize whether it should make a rotary movement or a tilt movement

(which voltage value triggers which movement?)

wilfried

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W.Frankenberg:

@ BEOVOX141

the thread heading actually says what I want exactly:

operate a motorized stand from a BV7 with a BEO4, without Beovision 7 TV.

That would of course involve some sort of external IR receiver? Unless you want the TVto be controlled by the Beo 4 as well?

Just making sure I have the right specifications Smile

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Yes, it would be great if the new TV (for example a LG) can also be controlled with

the same remote control (BEO4) as the stand.

I had already considered a LinTronic box to do this, only the motor control is missing.

wilfried

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Beobuddy replied on Tue, Mar 10 2020 5:59 AM

W.Frankenberg:

Judging by the pin assignment of the stand, the movements of the stand are controlled with voltage values

between 0 and 5 volts, how does the stand recognize whether it should make a rotary movement or a tilt movement

(which voltage value triggers which movement?)

It will be more intelligent than that. f you turn the stand by hand, then dot in the "stand"menu follows. So, there's more interaction between the stand and tv in terms of data.

 

Will log later this week.

 

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Peter Pan replied on Tue, Mar 10 2020 7:00 AM

While beovox141 continues to work on the task, here is a bit to look at.

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Peter Pan replied on Tue, Mar 10 2020 8:01 AM


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@PeterPan

thank you for the illustrated inspiration,

your thread: interface - tips & tricks, inspired me to create this thread.

I had to use my google translator again and again, but I got some helpful information!


@Beobuddy

I had never tried this information before.

Then the connection between the stand and the BV7 is probably a CAN-bus with a fixed protocol

and constant exchange of information.

wilfried

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for those who only need a mechanical bracket with VESA
there are also solutions for mounting a TV on BV7-32 and BV7-40 stand
https://shop.oneremote.dk/shop/69109-tv-vaegbeslag-til-bo/

wilfried

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Beobuddy replied on Tue, Mar 10 2020 10:16 AM

B&O started in the late '80's with the option to turn your LX or MX. Even then they integrated 3 presets which could be programmed/setup by the customer.

That later evolved with settings for maximun swing to the left and right for not hitting the walls.  The stand for the newer BV Avant was even more sophisticated. Alle these stands are not interchangeable.

Later this week I expect the arrival of my new scope/(investment you can say..), with different automatic decode functionalities. So, if someone is interested in my 4 year old Tektronix 1052B, just send a pm Smile

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BEOVOX141 replied on Tue, Mar 10 2020 10:46 AM

The stand is a lot more complex than you would initially assume. All functions are controlled with just two control lines. It has a clever PWM feedback system feeding position back to the controller in the BV7, and a the same time it can be manually overridden. It also has a circuit preventing abuse and overload. It definitely not CAN driven (CAN is a balanced interface for automotive) nor I2C as you might have expected, the B&O HW engineers did it the old school way - from the ground up. It really is a magnificent design although highly complicated and expensive.

 

If you’re interested you can follow my “quest” to deliver a solution to what seems to be a recurring issue here:

https://forum.recordere.dk/forum_posts.asp?TID=4389&PID=1613587&title=bang-olufsen-fortid-nutid-lg-tv#1613587

 

A VERY long tread by the way… You might recognize some of the “characters” in a somewhat different setting.

 

It is in Danish for now, but Google is your friend, fell free to ask questions or add whatever knowledge you have along the way. Please note It will take some time to complete a universal and proven solution.

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@PeterPan and @ BEOVOX141
thank you in the danish forum recordre.dk
strive to solve this "task".
I will probably not enter the forum, since the administrative pages are also Danish, and I need my friend GOOGLE to translate the threads.
So it would be good if you post here the results of your efforts.
@ BEOVOX141
By the way: I may look like FRANKENSTEIN :-), but it's only distantly related to Frankenberg ;-) lol

wilfried

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Peter Pan replied on Tue, Mar 10 2020 11:54 AM

@ W.Frankenberg. I thought of Millemissen who translates Danish into German, for one he can.
But it just doesn't work. He wants to color the translations in his opinion. And we don't always agree. Big Smile

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Look aside, this one keeps the tilt function whereas STB can only rotate.

W.Frankenberg:

for those who only need a mechanical bracket with VESA
there are also solutions for mounting a TV on BV7-32 and BV7-40
https://shop.oneremote.dk/shop/69109-tv-vaegbeslag-til-bo/

 

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Peter Pan replied on Wed, Mar 11 2020 8:09 AM

W.Frankenberg Yes - thumbs up

Here at BV 7-40 - floor-stand.

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