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BeoVision 14 & surround

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kuyttendaele
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kuyttendaele Posted: Sun, Mar 7 2021 12:21 PM
After 15y I’ve finally added some surround speakers. 2x BeoLab 6000 with silver fronts. 1 connected though PL, 1 though Received1 (No issues with wifi even as I’m using 5Ghz)

 

Speaker Group Start-Up
BV14-left : Center
BV14-right: Center
BL8000: Front Left
BL8000: Front Right
BL11: Sub
BL11: Sub
BL6000: Surround Left
BL6000 (though Wisa): Surround Right

 

The noise levels when assigning the speaker roles is ok. Each speaker is transmitting the noise as intended.
The Speaker Level of the 2 Surround speakers has been raised by 2dB; Spacial Controles are set to default (middle)

 

The problem is that when playing a Surround test that Surround Left & Surround Right is coming from Front Left & Front Right… There is a faint sound coming from the Surround speakers but at a very very low volume. 

 

Test clips used: 

In movies the surround sound hardly noticable.

Does anyone have an idea what could be wrong?

 

I also have a 2nd Speaker Group for music…
Speaker Group Music:
BV14-left : Non
BV14-right: Non
BL8000: Front Left
BL8000: Front Right
BL11: Sub
BL11: Sub
BL6000: Front Right
BL6000 (though Wisa): Front Left

 

Music is playing through all speakers without any problem!

 

Karel.
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There is no ‘surround testings’ on YT - you only get sound in 2 channel/stereo on YT.

How are your Speaker Group/s for multichannel/surround set up?

MM

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BartS replied on Sun, Mar 7 2021 2:39 PM

I know it sounds weird, but did you check the bass management? I know that on my Horizon, which has the same software, the bass management values were constantly messed ups randomly in one of the previous software versions. Although the software still is far from stable, this issue was solved. This had a major impact on the surround experience.

Another possibility (although I reckon you checked this one): are all of the sources settings correctly made?

kuyttendaele
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Millemissen:

There is no ‘surround testings’ on YT - you only get sound in 2 channel/stereo on YT.

How are your Speaker Group/s for multichannel/surround set up?

MM

Soo.. this explains a lot :-) Youtube does support uploading in surround but decodes in normal stereo.

It's the TrueImage process that converts the 2.0 stereo to 5.1

In the mean time I've had my friend Google come around and found this testpage:

 

https://www2.iis.fraunhofer.de/AAC/multichannel.html

When downloading and playing the samples all is OK :-)

kuyttendaele
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BartS:

I know it sounds weird, but did you check the bass management? I know that on my Horizon, which has the same software, the bass management values were constantly messed ups randomly in one of the previous software versions. Although the software still is far from stable, this issue was solved. This had a major impact on the surround experience.

Another possibility (although I reckon you checked this one): are all of the sources settings correctly made?

Base management is OK :-) I've had lengthy converations with B&O Support and Geoff about the misbehaviour af the bass management... but that has been solved for 3y now :-)

 

kuyttendaele
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BartS:

I know it sounds weird, but did you check the bass management? I know that on my Horizon, which has the same software, the bass management values were constantly messed ups randomly in one of the previous software versions. Although the software still is far from stable, this issue was solved. This had a major impact on the surround experience.

Another possibility (although I reckon you checked this one): are all of the sources settings correctly made?

Base management is OK :-) I've had lengthy converations with B&O Support and Geoff about the misbehaviour af the bass management... but that has been solved for 3y now :-)

 

Millemissen
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kuyttendaele:

Millemissen:

There is no ‘surround testings’ on YT - you only get sound in 2 channel/stereo on YT.

How are your Speaker Group/s for multichannel/surround set up?

MM

Soo.. this explains a lot :-) Youtube does support uploading in surround but decodes in normal stereo.

It's the TrueImage process that converts the 2.0 stereo to 5.1

In the mean time I've had my friend Google come around and found this testpage:

 

https://www2.iis.fraunhofer.de/AAC/multichannel.html

When downloading and playing the samples all is OK :-)

Fine - enjoy your new sound experiece - adding surround channels is a must IMO.

MM

 

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jvezina replied on Mon, Mar 8 2021 6:06 AM

kuyttendaele:

Millemissen:

There is no ‘surround testings’ on YT - you only get sound in 2 channel/stereo on YT.

How are your Speaker Group/s for multichannel/surround set up?

MM

Soo.. this explains a lot :-) Youtube does support uploading in surround but decodes in normal stereo.

It's the TrueImage process that converts the 2.0 stereo to 5.1

In the mean time I've had my friend Google come around and found this testpage:

 

https://www2.iis.fraunhofer.de/AAC/multichannel.html

When downloading and playing the samples all is OK :-)

There are actually Youtube videos that contains a surround track (AAC 5.1), but they are extremely rare.

Example:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_haZ5Vh16c

Regards,

Jean

 

kuyttendaele
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jvezina:

There are actually Youtube videos that contains a surround track (AAC 5.1), but they are extremely rare.

Example:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_haZ5Vh16c

Regards,

Jean

My BV14 (through an AppleTV 4K) still displays (all) Youtube audio info as "Input: 2.0" so it received normal stereo though the apple TV.

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Carolpa replied on Mon, Mar 8 2021 11:37 AM

send me a mail, then I will reply a link to a 5.1 music file (wav or flac).

Of course only for testing purpose use.   

Millemissen
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This is a good service for test clips.

https://www.demolandia.net/cinema/dolby-demo-trailers-hd.html

Assuming that kuyttendaele has access to a video streaming service, he’ll have lots of opportunity to test multichannel.

 

(Be sure to use a file that matches the layout of the setup...5.1 etc - or turn off the TrueImage processing in the settings for the used Speaker Group).

 

MM

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kuyttendaele
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Thanks all for the links! 

Will need some time to listen to them and also go through my live concert DVDs..

Karel.

 

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