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bwest1000 Posted: Thu, Sep 10 2020 11:41 PM

The price has crept down on the secondary market, and it appears some are still available from dealers.  With a price around 2k, is the beosound 35 worth it?  I know " worth it " is such a tough question, but it seems like since the time it came out that it was an overall unpopular speaker.  Was it unpopular because it was bad or was it unpopular because it wasn't worth the price?  Thanks.

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petermc replied on Fri, Sep 11 2020 3:21 AM
We bought a BS35 earlier this year for around $1450 aud which I thought was a good price. Put it in the kitchen to replace a BL3500. Very impressed with it and the sound it produces.

Got another for the bathroom at June sales and it was less than the cost of a Core. Thought was an excellent price.

Maybe at $4000 it was expensive but for just over a quarter of that it is good value.

No regrets on the purchases at all.

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$1450 is a good price, i would have picked one up at that i reckon 

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beolion replied on Fri, Sep 11 2020 8:55 AM
Aussie Michael:

$1450 is a good price, i would have picked one up at that i reckon

Me too. I love the BS35, just not the price.

And it has Spotify Connect.
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CB replied on Fri, Sep 11 2020 3:35 PM
I miss my BS35...

It inspires me a kind of horizontal Beolab 8000 assembly Smile
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bwest1000 replied on Fri, Sep 11 2020 4:28 PM

Thanks for the responses y’all. Where’d you find it for under $1500?

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Hyponx replied on Fri, Sep 11 2020 11:11 PM

One question that comes to mind (and that likely fueled the 35's rapid depreciation) is how it compares to the Beosound Stage which at least at a glance possess many more drivers and much more connectivity/capability than the 35's while having an MSRP of roughly 50% of the 35.

Even at brand new pricing it is within striking distance of the used 35 pricing. Might be worth considering if the Stage is a better choice.

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petermc replied on Sat, Sep 12 2020 1:40 AM
bwest1000:

Thanks for the responses y’all. Where’d you find it for under $1500?

At the dealer.

Where are you located?
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bwest1000 replied on Sat, Sep 12 2020 7:28 PM

Southeastern US

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bwest1000 replied on Sat, Sep 12 2020 7:28 PM

Southeastern US

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petermc replied on Sat, Sep 12 2020 10:52 PM
It was marked down at the June sales here in Australia.

You could give your dealer a call and see if the you can do something for you?
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bwest1000 replied on Sun, Sep 27 2020 4:43 PM

So it dropped to about 1700 USD, so I pulled the trigger on it. It’s so buggy. I can’t get any of the digital services to work except the Bluetooth. Won’t airplay. Won’t chrome cast. Continues to unpair from the network. Won’t stay present in B&O app. I’m glad this isn’t my first product or else I’d be very concerned. Stage worked great right out of the box. I’m going to reset the 35 and do all the diagnostic stuff, but my first impression is pretty poor. 

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bwest1000:

The price has crept down on the secondary market, and it appears some are still available from dealers.  With a price around 2k, is the beosound 35 worth it?  I know " worth it " is such a tough question, but it seems like since the time it came out that it was an overall unpopular speaker.  Was it unpopular because it was bad or was it unpopular because it wasn't worth the price?  Thanks.

As an owner of the BS 35, I can tell you that it is a good product. It sounds fantastic for what it is and although it may look similar to a soundbar, it still attracts attention when my family visits me.

I admit that few people consider the 35. In my country, Indonesia, people think it is too wide. They can buy the 2 and they will still be impressed by the sound. When I first used it in September 2017, it was not really a good experience. The Bang & Olufsen app experienced plenty of bugs and it was not really a reliable app. However, through a lot of software updates, it becomes far more reliable. The price was also an issue as well. In Jakarta, without discount, the price was almost 3000 EUR. However, the store gave me a huge discount so that the price became 2375 EUR, similar in European countries.

 

In conclusion, it was unpopular because of the software, the size, and the pricing. But don't forget, it sounds immaculate and it still turns head even if it may look like a soundbar. With a price around 2k, it is worth the price. The BS 35 sounds full and fills the room with great sound. The Bang & Olufsen app has improved substantially. I'd recommend it to you

Best Regards, Mit freundlichen Grüßen, 감사합니다
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bwest1000 replied on Sun, Sep 27 2020 10:39 PM

Yeah, I got it. Now it’s playing from an unknown source 🤦🏻‍♂️  Really don’t know where it’s playing from.  It says SoundCloud, but I turned the source off and it kept playing.  Says it on the network when I check my router but not when I check on my phone.  

Every time I leave the network I have to reset the whole thing.

Does it pair with google home? 

it does sound great.  

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bwest1000 replied on Mon, Sep 28 2020 12:06 AM

I know I am replying to my own post, but wow.  I have reset this thing a dozen times today.  I feel like I am losing my mind.  35 quickly loses network connection.  Says from the phone app that it is no longer available on the network.  I am just going to have to call support.  Luckily I bought it new from a dealer so it is under warranty.  What I need it to do is a hard reset - factory settings, but it only does a soft reset.  Current software is 1.22 something, but I can't get the 35 back up on my app to check.  So frustrating.  I can't imagine how I would feel if I had bought it at full price, original software, 4 years ago. 

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petermc replied on Mon, Sep 28 2020 3:09 AM
That’s not a good start....

How is yours connected - Ethernet cable or wireless? If Wi-Fi is it a mesh system?

Ours is connected via Ethernet. No problems at all. Plugged it in, set it up - it updated the software and off it went.

What are you playing through it? You’ll need to login to Tunein in the Configure menu. The same goes for Google and Airplay I think. Also set the country- for whatever reason the default is France. That will then get the time to set correctly.

Hopefully we can get it playing nicely for you.

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bwest1000:

I know I am replying to my own post, but wow.  I have reset this thing a dozen times today.  I feel like I am losing my mind.  35 quickly loses network connection.  Says from the phone app that it is no longer available on the network.  I am just going to have to call support.  Luckily I bought it new from a dealer so it is under warranty.  What I need it to do is a hard reset - factory settings, but it only does a soft reset.  Current software is 1.22 something, but I can't get the 35 back up on my app to check.  So frustrating.  I can't imagine how I would feel if I had bought it at full price, original software, 4 years ago. 

How about your network? Do you find your wireless/wired network reliable? If so, it is the product then.
1.22 is the current software and as far as I know, until the time this comment is written, no newer software is available.

 

Have you tried re-install the Bang & Olufsen app? You are not using the beta version, are you? 

Best Regards, Mit freundlichen Grüßen, 감사합니다
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bwest1000 replied on Mon, Sep 28 2020 8:35 PM

I am connecting it wirelessly via a network wifi mesh system from ubiquity amplifi.  I am trying to play it through multiple formats - bluetooth, chromcast and apple play so far.  I did not adjust the country, and I will check.  I appreciate the help, and I will try and connect it via the router to see if I can get a better response.  However, it would be frustrating to have a piece of equipment like this and not have all the pieces and parts work perfectly.  That would be a better marketing tool for B&O as well, buy our stuff, it is elegant, and " it just works ".  Seamless integration without hassle is a big advantage.  My software is current and the app is not beta.    

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bwest1000 replied on Mon, Sep 28 2020 8:37 PM

My network is very reliable otherwise.  I have like 5 TVs, iPads, music streamers and such going on all the time with no lag.  It is a very fast system, and nothing else on the system is having problems in parallel to the BeoLab 35.  For instance, the BeoSound Stage is working wonderfully in a system where the 35 is failing.  

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bwest1000:

I am connecting it wirelessly via a network wifi mesh system from ubiquity amplifi.  I am trying to play it through multiple formats - bluetooth, chromcast and apple play so far.  I did not adjust the country, and I will check.  I appreciate the help, and I will try and connect it via the router to see if I can get a better response.  However, it would be frustrating to have a piece of equipment like this and not have all the pieces and parts work perfectly.  That would be a better marketing tool for B&O as well, buy our stuff, it is elegant, and " it just works ".  Seamless integration without hassle is a big advantage.  My software is current and the app is not beta.    

To be honest, country may not play a role in this case. Nevertheless, you can try changing the country and see whether it improves or not (personally, I find it weird). It is definitely not satisfying to not have a hassle-free experience, especially when the company claims it is a wireless product. If I were you, I would either ask the dealer to help rectify this issue or claim the warranty. You get the warranty for this purchases, don't you?

If the software is current and the app is not beta, this should guarantee the best performance. Unfortunately, you don't experience it 

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bwest1000 replied on Tue, Sep 29 2020 3:00 AM

Correct.  I bought it new from a reliable seller, Amazon.  From Amazon, not a third party seller on Amazon.  I hard wired it via my network and it had none of the issues.  It appears to be something with the network that none of my other 50+ devices over my gigabit network have a problem with.  Not beta and reinstalled the app on my phone.  Also I have noticed that Tunein always resets to a non US based classic music station - doesn't matter what I change it to.  Wont play.  Only classical. I guess it is making a comment on my musical tastes now too :) 

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petermc replied on Tue, Sep 29 2020 6:32 AM

All sounds weird and would be annoying.

Our speakers are all wired so can't comment on wifi connections. I'm still waiting for the 35 for the bathroom so will try that wirelessly when it arrives (when the shop gets out of lockdown).

Only things I can suggest (which no doubt you've tried) it to reset the modem/router. I know our heater thermostat is very picky when the power goes and usually it boots up before the modem which causes problems. Also another thing to try and work out from what point the 35 is trying to access the mesh system from. I have other non B&O products that decided to latch onto the furthest access point for whatever reason and this caused random behaviour. Sometimes there was no connection other times there was. In the end I turned off the satellite point and 'forced' the unit to reattach to the closer point and then reactivated the satellite point. All these devices weren't overly pleased with 5ghz wifi either so I used an iPad attached to the 2.4ghz part of the system to get it to attach.

With regards to TuneIn - I don't know what the problem is there. Assuming you've logged into your TuneIn account I imagine everything should be the same as your Stage.

With regards to resetting it back to factory settings have you managed that? If the 35 isn't showing up in the App I think you can reset via the front panel controls.

Good luck and let us know how you go.

 

Peter

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HH1971 replied on Sun, Oct 11 2020 7:33 PM

Does anybody know, when using the statement „http://192.168.2.xx:8080/BeoNotify/Notifications“, why the Beosound Core shows the meta-data information of the currently playing Airplay Stream and the Beosound 35 does not?

Beosound Core shows:
{"notification":{"timestamp":"2020-10-03T15:33:42.808022","type":"NOW_PLAYING_STORED_MUSIC","kind":"playing","data":{"name":"Hello","duration":295,"trackImage":[{"url":"http://192.168.2.40:80/api/stream//tmp/temp_data_airPlayAlbum_c4fcc2f910cbd","size":"large","mediatype":"image/jpg"}],"artist":"Adele","artistImage":[],"album":"25","albumImage":[],"genre":"","playQueueItemId":"airplay"}}}

See Beosound 35 shows:
{"notification":{"timestamp":"2020-10-03T15:33:40.952067","type":"NOW_PLAYING_STORED_MUSIC","kind":"playing","data":{"name":"AirPlay","duration":295,"trackImage":[],"artist":"","artistImage":[],"album":"","albumImage":[],"genre":"","playQueueItemId":"airplay"}}}

There are rumors at this forum, that this is a legal problem. But what is the legal difference between using this statement for a Beosound35 or a Beosound Core?
For me this shows like so often, that Bang&Olufsen discontinous a product before the software / firmware is mature. And this B&O cultur keeps me from purchasing new B&O products.

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bwest1000 replied on Sun, Oct 11 2020 8:45 PM

I’m not a programmer. Sorry I cant help, but I share your frustrations. In other posts and other threads there are people that will go to great links to the food Bang and Olufsen despite their faulty software.  I can’t understand the apologists who say, “well, just don’t use that feature.”  No way. That’s inexcusable. It’s a speaker that costs as much as a car, and if a car were as buggy as B&O it would be considered a lemon.  Can’t defend new products that don’t work. However, I am keeping my 35 despite its problems. So I guess I’m Just as guilty as anyone else.

 

I hard wired my BeoSound 35 to my Network and now it works mostly fine. Sill a little more losses than the Stage. So, it doesn’t work wirelessly without dropping off the network. So, I have about 50 other products on my network that run along smoothly. My B&O product was immediately faulty and cost more. My $50 light bulbs are less buggy. 

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mbolo01 replied on Sun, Oct 11 2020 8:57 PM

HH1971:
Beosound Core shows:
{"notification":{"timestamp":"2020-10-03T15:33:42.808022","type":"NOW_PLAYING_STORED_MUSIC","kind":"playing","data":{"name":"Hello","duration":295,"trackImage":[{"url":"http://192.168.2.xx:80/api/stream//tmp/temp_data_airPlayAlbum_c4fcc2f910cbd","size":"large","mediatype":"image/jpg"}],"artist":"Adele","artistImage":[],"album":"25","albumImage":[],"genre":"","playQueueItemId":"airplay"}}}

On the same register, B&O support keeps saying that if the album cover image is not displayed in the B&O App when Airplay is used, while it is when using DLNA, Deezer or Chromecast for example, it is because of Airplay limitations, not sending metadata .... for legal or technical reason, they don't explain, BUT, the URL above clearly shows the link to the image sent via AP and temporarily stored in the Core. I tested it also with another product, and this link effectively shows the album cover.

 

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trackbeo replied on Sun, Oct 11 2020 10:16 PM

bwest1000:
Also I have noticed that Tunein always resets to a non US based classic music station - doesn't matter what I change it to.  Wont play.  Only classical. I guess it is making a comment on my musical tastes now too :) 
Couple notes, which may or may not help: (1) I found that if I entered *no* TuneIn credentials, but tapped the top (play) on my Beosound 1 anyway, I got "RBB-Kultur" (schedule at https://www.rbb-online.de/rbbkultur/radio/programm/ ).  If your classical station is speaking German, that's what has happened: no credentials, you get the default station.  (2) Setting the country shouldn't affect your Wi-Fi reception, because *clients* must follow whatever channel the wireless access point offers.  I would nevertheless do so, because who knows what else the country triggers.  At least it might delete QQplay (China) from your list of sources!  (3) I wish I had followed the pricing more closely on amazon to snag the same $1400 bargain you got!  Now they're down to their last unit, so the price is back up to $2489.  Nah.

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StKong replied on Mon, Oct 12 2020 9:13 PM
HH1971:

Does anybody know, when using the statement „http://192.168.2.xx:8080/BeoNotify/Notifications“, why the Beosound Core shows the meta-data information of the currently playing Airplay Stream and the Beosound 35 does not?

Beosound Core shows: {"notification":{"timestamp":"2020-10-03T15:33:42.808022","type":"NOW_PLAYING_STORED_MUSIC","kind":"playing","data":{ "name":"Hello" ,"duration":295,"trackImage":[{"url":"http://192.168.2.40:80/api/stream//tmp/temp_data_airPlayAlbum_c4fcc2f910cbd","size":"large","mediatype":"image/jpg"}], "artist":"Adele" ,"artistImage":[], "album":"25" ,"albumImage":[],"genre":"", "playQueueItemId":"airplay" }}}

See Beosound 35 shows: {"notification":{"timestamp":"2020-10-03T15:33:40.952067","type":"NOW_PLAYING_STORED_MUSIC","kind":"playing","data":{ "name":"AirPlay" ,"duration":295,"trackImage":[], "artist":"" ,"artistImage":[], "album":"" ,"albumImage":[],"genre":"", "playQueueItemId":"airplay" }}}

There are rumors at this forum, that this is a legal problem. But what is the legal difference between using this statement for a Beosound35 or a Beosound Core? For me this shows like so often, that Bang&Olufsen discontinous a product before the software / firmware is mature. And this B&O cultur keeps me from purchasing new B&O products.

This is all due to sloppy programming. And lack of attention.

Solution?

Would be a great potential fix for the Classics team to work while thinking of the next 10.000€ product to revitalise Big SmileBig SmileSurprise
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mbolo01 replied on Tue, Oct 13 2020 9:46 PM
StKong:

This is all due to sloppy programming. And lack of attention

I agree

As an example, I’m using Home-Assistant into which I have added media control cards for my B&O devices. When sending AirPlay to them, the card correctly retrieved and exposes metadata, track image included:

Details of the card where you can see the source being AirPlay:

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bwest1000 replied on Tue, Oct 13 2020 10:55 PM

I'm no expert, but they should do is go back to keeping features out of their speakers.  They also need to start making sources again.  If they went back to making CD players and streaming devices like network music servers, they could add features to those that could wire to, bolt on, or plug into their speakers.  Also drop WiSA.  I buy wires from BlueJeansCable.  I know that I am a pleb, and some folks on here are probably in the demographic that can or would spend thousands on one wire.  I don't think that running wires was what drove people away from B&O.  I think it was products that for the price should work 100% of the time but don't.  I just don't like being sold a feature that doesn't work.  I don't think it is a good brand image to have so many little imperfections in a product.  It is even worse if all the people in your ads are beautiful tippy top 1 percenters and the brand image is perfection.  If you can't get the feature to work, take it out.  Don't bring it to market.  It feels like B&O is like EA or Bethesda, selling buggy products that are still in beta and letting consumers report back for bug fixes via updates.  

 

Or add the whole set of features to a singular device that can be added onto any of the other products.  I think Klipsch makes a little dongle for $150 that makes any of their items wireless.  Outlaw audio and Emotiva make wireless systems just fine.  Primare makes one such device (and in Scandinavia no less) for about $600.  These are mostly "entry level", Joe six pack companies compared to B&O.  You could buy every single product that Outlaw and Emotiva make, all at once, and still have enough money left over to buy a used Boxter compared to buying one pair of 90s. 

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HH1971 replied on Sun, Nov 22 2020 9:53 AM

A new Software Version 1.24.41627 for the Beosound 35 is available. 

Does anyone know what this version will change, what additional features it offers?
Are there any new bugs implemented, as so often when B&O is offering new software releases that probably never will be fixed?
After all my very bad experience with software updates on my Beosound Moment, do I have to install this update and what do I miss if I do not install it?

Does this software update will show the meta data like album and artist at least in the B&O app?  Or at the Beoremote Halo?

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HH1971:

A new Software Version 1.24.41627 for the Beosound 35 is available. 

Does anyone know what this version will change, what additional features it offers?
Are there any new bugs implemented, as so often when B&O is offering new software releases that probably never will be fixed?
After all my very bad experience with software updates on my Beosound Moment, do I have to install this update and what do I miss if I do not install it?

Does this software update will show the meta data like album and artist at least in the B&O app?  Or at the Beoremote Halo?

According to the B&O customer support, it is a new Audio Streaming Engine.
So far, I have a difficult time to find anything different.
Do you miss if you do not install? Nothing to miss so far.
Do you have to install? I personally always recommend using the latest software. 

No meta data is shown with this new software update. According to the website before the new information, the new software enables the Beosound 35 to connect with the Beoremote Halo

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HH1971 replied on Sat, Mar 20 2021 1:13 PM

New software version 1.25.42740 for the Beosound 35 is available.

Does anybody know, what changes / new features are offered?

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I don’t have one (yet) but I think it is an amazing system.
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Can anyone advise if it is possible to change the way the BeoSound 35 displays track information, at present it shows the artist name in bold and the track underneath... I wanted to make it show the track in bold and the artist underneath

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Carolpa replied on Sat, Mar 27 2021 2:12 PM

suneetjulka:
Can anyone advise if it is possible to change the way the BeoSound 35 displays track information, at present it shows the artist name in bold and the track underneath... I wanted to make it show the track in bold and the artist underneath
Not possible!

 

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I have just updated my Wi-Fi to a mesh network with WiFi 6. After the update, all products work fine except BS35. Build in Deezer and TuneIn work as expected but linking music is partly lost. The music track and source is displayed but no sound at all. If I try to link what I play on the BS35 to any other speaker or TV it is the same. Information is displayed but no sound. I have restarted and reinstalled the SW without any success. Anyone experienced any similar and can the new SW be the cause? I have not linked any music for some weeks so it could either be the new WiFi or the SW.
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