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Help with Beovision 6 - how to turn panel / backlight off?

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lowroad Posted: Thu, Jan 31 2013 9:08 PM

Hi,

I have  a BeoVision 6 26" type 9250 (MKI) with a surround module that is connected to two pairs of BL6000's.  The BV6 26 is connected to a media center through one of the scart connectors.

When listening to music I would like to turn the panel off (mute the picture).  After pressing the P-MUTE function on my Beo4 the screen turns black however the backlight remains on. Is there an option to turn the panel completely off?

Thanks

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Hardwriter replied on Thu, Jan 31 2013 11:44 PM

I have a BC6-26 so can't be certain operation is exactly the same but when I use the picture mute function the picture is muted immediately but the backlight stays on for around 45s before it switches off. I'm sure B&O had a reason for setting it up that way but I've no idea what it might be! Anyway, have you tried waiting a while to see if the backlight stays on?

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lowroad replied on Fri, Feb 1 2013 7:41 PM

Thanks for your response but unfortunately the backlight of my screen stays on, also after 45s.  As you said, this might be related to a difference between a BC6-26 and a BV6-26, but I can also imagine that it is software related as I have a first generation MK1 model with SW 5,2.  I also read that an alternative for switching the screen off is selecting FORMAT 0, but my BV does not respond to this combination.  Any idea if a SW upgrade might help? Where can I find what the latest version is?

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stefan replied on Fri, Feb 1 2013 9:18 PM

I have a BV6-22 that works without picture ib audio mode. Did you try to press AV - audio source?

To which V.OPT did you set your BV?

Format is used for cinema installation only for BS3 based systems like BV7, so won't work for your BV.

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Maybe using AV-SOURCE from standby will do the trick?

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Beobuddy:

Maybe using AV-SOURCE from standby will do the trick?

I have no idea if it will. But surely, the point is that you can use the screen to find the media file or choose the radio station, and then turn it off?

 

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Beobuddy replied on Fri, Feb 1 2013 10:00 PM

Oops. Minor, but significant detail. Big Smile

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Hi lowroad,

Does your BV 6-26 have a MasterLink-module installed?

In that case the AV-before-source-command should work with Option 2.

The BC6 was also made for only-audio-sources (radio) and the Picture-Mute-function works out of the box, when choosing the internal audio-source.

 

I am aware that this does not help you - might be a software-issue. But I would not think that that will ever be resolved..

How do you control the media-center? With some kind of app, or via screen-display on the BV?

If control via external app (iPad/Android....) is possible this might help:

Has you media-center seperate audio-outputs? (Which one is it anyway?)

You could use them instead and connect to the (PC-)analog-input of the BV.

 

Have you ever considered connecting the media-center via DVI - would provide a better picture, and ?maybe? make it possible to turn off the panel (just a thought - but worth trying out).

Greetings Millemissen

 

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Beobuddy:
Oops. Minor, but significant detail. Big Smile

Yup, that's what I thought - Until Millemissen posted about the phones and tablets.

 

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Sorry can't give any constructive inputs in this regard. But I do wish that there is a desktop computer version of Beovision 6. That will be super cool! Which I think will be entirely possible and super profitable. That will be the first Windows computer I will decide to own actually second my first was a Toshiba laptop way back when I was a kid... 

It actually kinda makes sense now that I think of it cos... Most makers of all in one desktops uses third-party internal components etc.... So.... Why no B&O all in one desktop computers yet? It's a perfect fit!

 B&O makes their TVs thicker than most because of the active loudspeakers they build in and most all in one desktops are thick except for the latest IMac  which IMHO is a fail because of the elimination of the vital wall mount function + slot CD reader (too early to eliminate) .Most of all B&O will be the only manufacturer of  truly luxurious all in one desktop computers and because of the thicker than average nature, full upgradeability will be made possible - I hate discarding computer after computer. How environmentally unfriendly!   Almost all makers of all in ones have dismal built quality aside from Apple. And Apple runs on mac so... 

Sorry if I sound like I am hijacking your thread but it really got me thinking. The Beovision 6 looks so much like an ideal all in one PC!

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DoubleU replied on Sat, Feb 2 2013 7:28 AM

wonderfulelectric:

Sorry if I sound like I am hijacking your thread but it really got me thinking. The Beovision 6 looks so much like an ideal all in one PC!

No, you don't sound like, you are! Again and again! Super Angry

 

 

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lowroad replied on Sat, Feb 2 2013 1:22 PM

@Stefan / Beobuddy /  Millemissen thanks  for your help!  And yes, setting the BV6-26 in OPTION2, and using the AV <source> command from standby works. MANY THANKS!

 

And solving one issue always triggers another question.  Actually, I have my media center (a Mac Mini) connected to the PC DVI and analog sound input of the BV6-26.  In addition, I have a set of BL6000 in a second room connected through Masterlink and a Beolink active (OPTION6) with the BV6-26.  

I receive TV / DTV sound in the second room, however when selecting PC as source the BL6000 switch on but I don't receive the sound signal.  For that reason, I have also connected the analog sound of the Mac Mini to one of the SCART inputs of the BV6-26 - which I can access in the second room. Doesn't Masterlink transport the analog PC signal? Any suggestions?

Thanks.

@ Millemissen - I use the Apple Remote app and occasionally VPN on my laptop to control the Mac Mini //  p-mute does not turn off backlight in PC-source either.

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Hi lowroad,

glad that this problem now is solved Stick out tongue

You don't need the P-Mute at all - even if you have the screen activated the AV-'source'-command should turn off the display completely.

 

The 'PC-command' in a linkroom with an ActiveLink opens the A-AUX port of the ActiveLink (nice to know if you want to have an extra source just for this room).

Try 'Link-PC' - it might work. First connect the analog-out to the PC/analog-inputs!!!

Greetings  Millemissen

P.S. In the first post you wrote that the Media Center was connected to scart - this made me wonder what kind of Media Center you are using.

Actually a nice setup you have there Smile!

 

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How interesting that you have a Mac mini connected to the Beovision 6. Makes me wonder... Lol... I will stop here. 

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@Mister Makes-me-wonderfulelectric

What is there to wonder about?

Quite normal - I would say - and a good idea!

Grrr! Millemissen

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Millemissen:

@Mister Makes-me-wonderfulelectric

What is there to wonder about?

Quite normal - I would say - and a good idea!

Grrr! Millemissen

I was wondering about my all in one desktop B&O computer idea. You know since the user is using the Beovision 6 with a mac mini. Apple is in decline.... No luxurious Windows all in one desktop with good sound and built....And B&O is supposedly a luxury brand... Well owning a B&O luxury desktop all in one is definitely show off material! No HP or Dell pedestrian crap. I mean since B&O tvs are still pretty thick as compared to the competition out there for sound and style sake so why not maximize that idea?! $6000 for basic model... Yes many will pay for that kind of exclusivity! LCD screens are cheap now so.... add a nicely styled case and beolab 3 quality sound along with fully upgradeable internals which are made by third parties anyway... You have a winner! Clutter free desktop ( no extra speakers) ... Exclusive looking desktop all in one fit for casual users or fit for a gamer if he/she decks it up to full spec. . Computer power is so massive nowadays that even the basic will be fast enough. I can just imagine visitors of mine be like oh what's with the retro LCD monitor and I will be like it is an all in one desktop with super powerful speakers. 

I am so tired of the thinner and thinner TVs or all in one desktops... What's the point with being thin when I need external drives and speakers that the thin profile would no longer serve its supposed function of saving desktop space anyway.. Exhibit A... The latest Imac ( I have always been an Imac fan since 2007 ever since there is dual core/quad core processors) no CD drive, no wall mounting and worse yet the stand remains just as freaking thick; what's the point in making an all in one so thin when you need to externalize the CD drive and speakers? So my point is that the old BeoVision 6 chassis will serve as an all in one desktop very well. The thickness of the profile will serve the all in one very well when it is fully upgradeable. 

Most non B&O fans when they look at B&O TVs they will commend on the thickness of them, well now B&O has a reason to have thick TVs now that they are no longer just TVs. 

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lowroad replied on Sat, Feb 2 2013 9:32 PM

Hi Millemissen,

Thanks again for your help.  Unfortunately,the command Link + PC or L-PC does not do the trick.  Strangely enough on one occasion last week I received sound from the PC in the second room but I am not able to reproduce that.  Although I have a workaround through the scart input, I am still open to any suggestion.

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[@lowroad Don't give up - there must be a solution.

Greetings Millemissen

@wonder...electric I choose to ignore your looong explanation of the advantages and disadvantages of the thickness of the B&O-tv's - having read it already a couple of times on other threads Sleep It is extremely offtopic in this one.

Grrr! Millemissen

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DoubleU replied on Sun, Feb 3 2013 12:16 AM

It sounds that only the scart-connections on your 6-26 can be distributed over ML, and the “DVI + L/R” can not. If this is true, the PC-command in your second room has nothing to do with your MacMini connection. However it becomes active because of the PC-port in your Active Kit, which is empty.

Solution is to split your analog signal from your MacMini to the L/R sockets AND a free scart. In the connection menu name this scart V.MEM or DVD, so you can access the sound in the second room.

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lowroad replied on Sun, Feb 3 2013 3:10 PM

Thanks DoubleU for your help.  The scart solution does the trick - however both scart slots are already in use.  That's why I was wondering if the PC sound of the BV6 (DVI + L+R) could be accessed in the second room. As the PC-command opens the PC-port in the BL active I was hoping that another command would do the trick  (I tried link-PC as per suggestion of Millemissen but without luck).

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stefan replied on Sun, Feb 3 2013 5:07 PM

Does the BV6 respond to LINK PC ommand? I mean, does it turn on or will it keep in STDBY mode?

Does your BL active have a PC socket - must be left to PL socket - ?

Maybe you have an older BL active (with two PL sockets) that  doesn`t detect PC command..(?)

Is it possible to reconfigure the DVI socket to a video source like V.MEM, V.AUX, DVD2....

Could be a solution. The BL active should respond to these modes.

And sorry for the nonsense I wrote:

"Format is used for cinema installation only for BS3 based systems like BV7, so won't work for your BV."

must be:Format 0 is used for cinema installation only for BS3 based systems like BV7, so won't work for your BV.

Format mode (1-2-3) also works with BV6.

I should reread my writing before posting....

Stefan

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lowroad replied on Sun, Feb 3 2013 7:03 PM

Thanks Stefan for sharing your insights.

I have a newer BL Active (model 1636 with PC socket).  

  • The BL Active responds to the PC command (the BL6000 turn on), but the BV remains in standby.   
  • No response when I try the L-PC or LINK+PC commands; not from the BL Active nor from  the BV.

Reconfiguring DVI socket to a video source would be a nice solution, however the BV6-26 (MK1/ SW. 5.1) does not support this Sad

PS: And indeed: Format mode (1-2-3) works on my BV (although I seldom use it).  I read about FORMAT 0 in another thread, but you are right that it doesn't work on BV6  

 

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