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Beolab 8000 system

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marc Posted: Sun, Feb 3 2013 5:22 PM

Hi to all

Today i have just fulfilled one lifes ambitions by becoming the proud owner of a very nice beolab 8000 system complete, beomaster 8000 , beocord 8002, beogram 8002 all boxed like new and in full working order the system also come with sc-80 cabinet and remote etc. To top it all off i also picked up a pair of ms150 speakers in same finish in very good condition.

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That certainly looks like Christmas! Smile

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Congratulations Marc, just beautiful and in boxes, speakers that fit the system, I wish you many years of joy with it.

In the excitement you called it Beolab system,Cool I can understand that, its like Xmas when we were children, only better Lets have a Party !!!

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Well done!

A real high water mark for B&O in my opinion, and probably the best system they ever produced when all up and running. 

The MS150s are hard to find - where did you come across them?

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marc replied on Sun, Feb 3 2013 6:58 PM

Thanks for all of your replies, can't wait to get it all set up,

The MS150s has been an on going deal from a person in London i was trying to make  for last 4 months ago but he would not sell and then out of the blue i had a text saying  for sale if you still want them and if that was not enough the 8000 system come up here on beoworld and it was job done. This has filled a big hole in my collection, i now just need to complete my beolab 5000 system and i'm done.

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Peter replied on Sun, Feb 3 2013 7:46 PM

Søren Mexico:

Congratulations Marc, just beautiful and in boxes, speakers that fit the system, I wish you many years of joy with it.

In the excitement you called it Beolab system,Cool I can understand that, its like Xmas when we were children, only better Lets have a Party !!!

The 8000 system was known as the Beolab 8000 system rather than the Beosystem 8000. This nomenclature was kept for reference standard systems, which the 8000 system certainly was. Lovely system - I sometimes regret not having mine anymore until I see that I don't have space even without it!!  Big Smile

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marc replied on Sun, Feb 3 2013 7:57 PM
Yes your right the 8000 system does need a great deal of room, had not seen the ms150s in the flesh until today there just massive, and having beovox 5000 mk1 and type k speakers i thought it did not get bigger.

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Welcome to the 8000 bandwagon! You will love it for many years to come, as I do with mine. Those MS150's are monstrous when only living on 16 square meters, but worth it! Laughing

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Peter replied on Sun, Feb 3 2013 9:37 PM

M100s are actually a little wider, though not quite as tall! Ashamed to admit it but I am steadily listening to less and less music! Hearing getting worse these days so maybe I don't enjoy it as much.  I do still go to live concerts though!

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marc replied on Sun, Feb 3 2013 10:05 PM
Great pics of your 8000 system, I see you also have stands for ms150s which is a must, I hope to be getting some soon

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marc replied on Sun, Feb 3 2013 10:11 PM
M100s, there is a pair for sale on eBay uk but they are £300, I got the ms150s for £250 and they have been reformed.

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Peter:
The 8000 system was known as the Beolab 8000 system rather than the Beosystem 8000. This nomenclature was kept for reference standard systems, which the 8000 system certainly was. Lovely system - I sometimes regret not having mine anymore until I see that I don't have space even without it!!  Big Smile

I stand corrected, sorry MarcSad

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Marc,

Congratulations on the Beolab 8000. As the person who actually bought Peter's, I can understand why he misses it, but can equally understand his comments about the space it takes up. My good lady hates it for that reason!

I have gradually come to the point where I think it may be the finest all- round 'system' B&O made. The BG 4000 Is better built and a more coherent piece of styling; the BM 4400 may be slightly sweeter sounding and the BC 5000 more beautiful (as well as being B&O's only in house cassette deck), but as a system the 8000 is a coherent piece of design that still impresses today. It also works visually with the CDX (the design of the CD carrier mirrors that of the BG 8002 platter) and it has a remote control.

Most impressed with fact you have the original boxes. If you ever consider selling those, I would be very, very interested.

Well done

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marc replied on Mon, Feb 4 2013 8:59 AM

Boxes was a big bonus as it was not mentioned in the seller's ad, and on collecting items i was told the history of system in that it had been owned from new and was set up in there house the past 30 years or so, a very nice older couple who were sad it see it go one of which is a beoworld member, thats how i come across the system.

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For years I banged on about how the 8000 was the best system ever, and was always met with the 4400 and the Beolab 5000 are better etc. blah blah. Now everyone agrees that I was right all that time and the 8000 is the best ever. What happened?

FWIW I've had so many Beomasters come and go but the only one I have hung onto is the 8000 and I have never ever considered flipping it for something else. So long as you have room it's the coolest thing B&O ever made bar none. Seen here with a slice of 70s LED action the Omega Digital 1:

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Peter replied on Mon, Feb 4 2013 6:01 PM

Not completely sure that is what we are saying but I do agree that the 8000 is a very beautiful system - and also a splendid sounding one. I still maintain that the 4400 is nicer to listen to and that earlier systems are better made, but I cannot believe that anyone would ever be disappointed with an 8000 system. Their partners could well leave them , mind you! Big Smile

Hope you are enjoying your final year. The clinical years were my favourite by miles and I loved being a house officer. Don't remember listening to much music though!! I was at the time when we did a one in two on call going to one in one when your colleague was on holiday! I lived in the hospital - the RVI where they shot the first series of Junior Doctors a year or two ago. Completely different and looks far more like hard work!

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I've noticed the love factor for the 8000 increasing from where it was a couple of years ago, when it was just you and I of the regular UK posters who had one of these. Now there seem to be a handful dotted around.

I was struck when I sold my 6000 Quad system that I had a couple of messages out of the blue from Beoworld lurkers that I didn't know asking me if the 8000 was next for the chop! Their enquiries were politely declined :)

Final year is just starting Peter. Am looking forward to getting finished now, but the shift patterns seem more friendly than in the days when you qualified. I am currently on a GP rotation and liking that very much more than I expected to - no GP B&O or Triumph fans in my practice though!

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Peter replied on Mon, Feb 4 2013 7:59 PM

The shift pattern is better but I think we had it easier - present day junior doctors seem to work much harder and seem much cleverer than when I was a houseman!

GP land is a bit full of doom and gloom at present as our pensions are eroded and our pay cut. This was never why I did it but I do feel sorry for younger partners who do seem to be getting it in the neck a bit at present.

On the Triumph side, I have started replacing the trunnions in the front suspension with Caterham front uprights - done one side so far!

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I Hope i'm doing the right thing i'm having to sell my beomaster 4400 to help pay for the 8000 system, never intended to sell this its just the 8000 system came round so soon that i had to make a choice. Its on ebay uk now

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Leslie replied on Mon, Feb 4 2013 10:02 PM

Looks great Marc, and with the preselect coverYes - thumbs up

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Still got its price tag on power cable 

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j0hnbarker:

For years I banged on about how the 8000 was the best system ever, and was always met with the 4400 and the Beolab 5000 are better etc. blah blah. Now everyone agrees that I was right all that time and the 8000 is the best ever. What happened?

You were a man before his time, John!

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I Hope i'm doing the right thing i'm having to sell my beomaster 4400 to help pay for the 8000 system, never intended to sell this its just the 8000 system came round so soon that i had to make a choice. Its on ebay uk now

marc

I am in the lucky position of still having my 4400 - it was a gift from Peter - a typically generous move on his part in the early days of my exposure to the Beovirus!

I am sorry to hear you are selling it, but I hope you get a good price.

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marc replied on Mon, Feb 11 2013 6:30 PM

I JUST SOLD MY BEOMASTER 4400 FOR £785 WITH EBAY, i know it was as new condition with box but never knew it would fetch that kind of price.

Also did anyone see another complete 8000 system with cabinet and ms150 speakers go for £353 on ebay.com

 

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marc:

I JUST SOLD MY BEOMASTER 4400 FOR £785 WITH EBAY, i know it was as new condition with box but never knew it would fetch that kind of price.

Also did anyone see another complete 8000 system with cabinet and ms150 speakers go for £353 on ebay.com

 

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Well done! I doubt that price will ever be bettered. The 4400 is a fine amp but not that hard to come by. F.e. I sold a 6000 Quad for £740ish 18 months ago, and I doubt a serviceable one with remote has come up again in that time.

I thought your BIN price was £700, BTW?

 

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Marc,

That is an extremely good price - well done!

I guess my offer on your Beolab 8000 boxes now seems a little academic! (see my PM of adequate days ago)

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marc replied on Mon, Feb 11 2013 11:00 PM

Cleve

Still have not had time to set up 8000 system still all packed, but going off what i just sold its was the box that brought the money in.

Someone had a great deal in the USA buying the complete 8000 system for £353 including ms150s and sc80 cabinet.

marc 

 

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valve1 replied on Mon, Feb 11 2013 11:10 PM

marc:

Someone had a great deal in the USA buying the complete 8000 system for £353 including ms150s and sc80 cabinet.

marc

 

You can now afford to mail him with a better offer !

Great price for 4400.

 

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marc replied on Mon, Feb 11 2013 11:15 PM

Is it because 8000 system is US 110v voltage that it went so cheap.

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AdamS replied on Wed, Feb 13 2013 1:04 PM

Nice looking system, Marc and welcome to the Beolab 8000 system owners' club!

Did the MS150 stands arrive OK?

Edit: Just seen that they did - excellent!

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marc replied on Wed, Feb 13 2013 9:27 PM
Hi Adam

Ms150 stands are great thanks so much, all that needs doing now so TLC on the top of speaker cabinets, they have stains and scratches, once sorted it will setup time

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marc replied on Sat, Feb 16 2013 9:35 PM
Had a bit of time today to set up 8000 system, looks and sounds great (send pics later) but I do have a few problems firstly there's a hum from from the speakers, when playing music you don't notice it then I found that it was only making this hum when beocord is on and also if I touch the beocord it seems to get worse a bit like static.

I've also set beogram 8002 up but when I try to play a record it starts spinning as it should and the the arm moves over in position but does not lower onto record.

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Here's the pic of 8000 setup

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Sounds like a service is required Marc. Every time I see one of these sets come for sale, the owner posts about how it all works 100% perfectly, which is invariably complete tosh. A complex 30+ year-old piece of equipment like this is always going to fail at this age. When I got my 8002 it was doing something similar to yours, and I've lost count now of the number of times my 8004 has been in for one thing or another sorting. You'd be wise to have the whole system serviced, and then I'm sure you'll be surprised with the difference in performance and sound quality.

I am very envious of those speakers, BTW.

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marc replied on Sun, Feb 17 2013 6:42 PM

Thanks for the info, i got to say that it sounds amazing now and in faultless cosmetic condition i just need a point in the right direction whether i have set-up the turntable correct and would it be something to do with electric cables close to beocord connect cable making humming sound.

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marc:

Thanks for the info, i got to say that it sounds amazing now and in faultless cosmetic condition i just need a point in the right direction whether i have set-up the turntable correct and would it be something to do with electric cables close to beocord connect cable making humming sound.

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Marc - the 8002 turntable is idiot proof. It either works or it doesn't. In your case it doesn't, so a service is probably required regardless of the cosmetic condition if the tonearm isn't dropping on to the record.

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Peter replied on Sun, Feb 17 2013 7:26 PM

Check you are using the correct DIN leads - the one for the record player is different. The Beogram 8002 is a complex device and suffers from component failure. The arm descent on this one is different to the earlier 4000 series and is electronic. Does the gram click when it gets over the record? The solenoid if malfunctioning usually fails in the up position.

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marc replied on Sun, Feb 17 2013 8:48 PM
Hi Peter

When the arm goes over it looks like it makes an attempt to drop down and then clicks back into place. Also I will try and swap leads later.

What do you think the buzzing or humming sound is coming from speakers when beocord 8002 is connected, when playing tape you don't notice it, when I disconnect beocord it the buzzing stops also when the beocord is connected making the hum or buzz sound, if I touch any part of the beocord the buzzing gets worse.

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Peter replied on Sun, Feb 17 2013 9:52 PM

It is an earth problem but it shouldn't be! The Beocord is, as far as I am aware, double earthed in common with almost all B&O. You can however still earth the Beocord and this should fix the hum. However this might not be the end of the problem!

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Peter replied on Sun, Feb 17 2013 9:53 PM

On the Beogram, have you set the tracking weight? If set to zero, the arm will float.

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