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Hi all
I'm curious about the old 601 amp and I'd like to pick one up some time in the future. But I'm confused about two different models that I've seen referred to as 610s in the archive. Are both the 'Bandmaster' (Dirigent? 610K?) and larger blue face receiver both 610s or is the slimmer 'bandmaster' actually a 608 or 609?;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0ZiRChWPOY
The numbers 608, 609 and 610 merely refers to the model year.First digit gives the decade (4=1940s, 5= 1950s, 6 = 1960s), subtract this from the last two digits and youhave the last digit in the model year.The Hifi Stereo Amplifier 610 is then from (6= 1960s, 10-6=4) 1964
The model names are Dirigent, Grand Prix, Master Deluxe, Beolit etc.
Martin
I didn't know that. Thanks Dillen.
So what is the model name of both these receivers? Dirigent and Grand Prix?
Or , should I say, what ARE the model nameS of these amps
They were simply named :Hifi Stereo Amplifier 608&Hifi Stereo Amplifier 610
As you will also find printed on the back.It's not uncommon to find the name Beolab 608/610 adapted since it fits nicely in with the later amplifiermodels but it's not correct.
There was also a Hifi Amplifier 607 (also stereo) in a different, far more basic, design and another, evenlesser known amplifier was the 911H44, taking the naming to the extremes.
Thanks Dillen!
More questions :)
Do both the black face and blue face versions have phono inputs? Looks like some are DIN.
We had another thread about this not long ago.Export models had RCA (phono) sockets and backside lettering (Amplifier) in english rather than danish (Forstarker).
Start collecting and you'll find out - maybe you'll find even more differences.
Cheers Martin!
Dillen: There was also a Hifi Amplifier 607 (also stereo) in a different, far more basic, design and another, even lesser known amplifier was the 911H44, taking the naming to the extremes. Martin
There was also a Hifi Amplifier 607 (also stereo) in a different, far more basic, design and another, even
lesser known amplifier was the 911H44, taking the naming to the extremes.
Hi Martin,
Very interesting information! I know the 911 amp but I never heard about Hifi Amplifier 607!?
Do you have some pic of it? How does it look?
You are realy a living Beo-pedia :-)
P.S. Here the foto of 911 I have found on the net ...
Vintage Bang & Olufsen
What you are showing is actually the Amplifier 607.
The Amplifier 911H44 was also called Amplifier Type HF. At least some of them hadthis on a plate riveted to the backside. HF presumably standing for High Fidelity, which was alsofound in lettering across the front, completely unlike B&O.
Dillen: What you are showing is actually the Amplifier 607. The Amplifier 911H44 was also called Amplifier Type HF. At least some of them hadthis on a plate riveted to the backside. HF presumably standing for High Fidelity, which was alsofound in lettering across the front, completely unlike B&O. Martin
beautifull device! I never saw it!
Now I have one more device on my "wanted"-list
But I have to say, I am little bit confused now. The device which of I posted a picture, is caled 911 in B&O catalog (see picture)?! No information about 607...
No, it's called 911H58Confusion complete now ?
BTW, I once saw a 607 tuner built to match the 607 amplifier. Unfortunately I don't remember where I saw it and it'snot in any of the catalogues so it could've been a prototype.
okkkk... hmmm...
Did I understand it right:
- 911H58 is the version I posted (and is also called Hifi Amplifier 607)
- 911H44 is the version you posted (and is also called Amplifier Type HF)
?
confusion with the B&O 60's naming, totally!
Staying on this issue (naming 607,608,609, 610 ...):
To be honest I also saw for the first time this version of Grand prix Moderne:
http://www.ebay.at/itm/Bang-Olufsen-Grand-Prix-Moderne-Stereo-607-/251313683186?pt=Radio_TV_Musik&hash=item3a83767af2
It is the version 607 with white knobs and 5 white stripes on the front (instead of 2 I always saw on the 608 and 609 Moderne). It is diferent as the Grand Prix Moderne 608 and 609, which are the same. But the Grand prix Moderne 610 is again diferent. Am I right?
Yes, and I think, if you look closely you can actually see the 911H58 in the catalogue scan, you posted.
Up until the mid-1960s it was quite common to see new radio models every year (almost like cars) and B&Ofollowed this trend closely.For the Grand Prix models, with some exceptions, this usually meant a few changes, upgrades and/or designchanges from year to year, keeping some elements (f.e. amplifiers) and replacing others (accomodating new valve types etc.).The Grand Prix models were always at the top of the model line-up (not counting a few Grandessa models inthe early 1950s), they pretty much represented the extreme of what was possible at the given time. Alwaysvery advanced and some would say over-engineered at times but impressive none-the-less.
None of the 607/608/609/610 Grand Prix models are 100% identical.The Grand Prix 607 is not too common. It is a bit rare, as is the 610.Grand Prix 608 and 609 seems to be slightly more common - if you can use that word at all.
The Bandmaster models were merely export versions of the Dirigent models.