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Dear members,
I've meanwhile almost completed my main system consisting of a Beosystem 7000 with Software 1.3, a Beovision Avant RF, a DVD2, Beolab Penta as fronts and Beolab 4000 as rears. The Avant is in option 2 and the Beosystem in option 0. I'm very pleased with the results so far. However, I do seem to have trouble with the right operation. When I listen to music, press list on the Beo4 and when Speaker is shown in the display press 4, then stereo 4 sound with all four connected speakers works. Therefore, the system seems to be properly set up. However, when I listen to a DVD (NTSC format) that supports dolby digital 5.1 and I press again list on the Beo4 and when Speaker appears number 5, then sound is only played by the Beolab Pentas as fronts. Where's my mistake? Is it that NTSC is not supported? Also the 4 for stereo 4 does not work with the DVD.
Is it reasonable to add a Beolab 11 to the system btw?
Any help is much appreciated.
Thanks very much!
Rgds,
Kai
Hi. I doubt if Beolab 11 will be any advantage at all. Your Pentas go right down to 40 hertz and give plenty of bass, and The Avant goes down to 50hertz and uses the cabinet to give impressive bass.
As for the other thing, check that all your scarts are pushed fully home, Just a thought.Regards, Andy T.
Do you have the digital out (sound) from the DVD2 to the Avant connected too?
Please also check the Audio Output Settings!
MM
There is a tv - and there is a BV
Thanks for the replys. Millemissen, what do you mean by Audio Output settings? I have connected the DVD2 not only via scart but also via digital coax (?) but will have to check for that. However, it's not only a problem with DVD but also when watching regular TV. As far as I've understood it, I should receive surround sound when pressing List on the Beo4 and as soon as speakers appears I press the 5. Even if I press the 4, I do get no sound from the rears. The rears are only activated when using an Audio source and conducting the same procedure. It doesn't seem to work with any video source.
Would the Beolab 2 be a more reasonable addition then? I like the looks of the 11 to be honest. Beolab 4000s are great by the way. I like them a lot. Have now heard them for the first time and would consider them as one of BuOs better products (at least amongst those that I have owned). Really nice design and great sound for a reasonable price. And they look spectacular in silver with white frets sitting on floor stands. I would even rate them above the 8000s that I also own. Just my two cents.
Sorry, I have to correct myself.
1) List -> Speaker -> 4 works in TV mode but doesn't work with DVD. The rears are on but play no music.
2) List -> Speaker -> 5 doesn't work independent of source. Is that because I have not added a sub yet?
And even more precisely, whenever the ProLogic or the Digital symbol on the Avant are on I do get no sound from the rears no matter what the source is. They are turned on but no sound. Stereo 4, however, seems to work without a problem. What could the reason be?
Finally: I've changed the digital coax connection between the Avant and the DVD2 and now Speaker 4 also works in DVD mode. I've never really understood this. Connecting the DVD to Scart 2 worked, whereas connecting it to Scart 1 didn't. Connecting the coax to Input 1 then again didn't work, connecting it to Input 2 worked. Still, speaker 5 doesn't work, but that's probably due to the missing sub, isn't it? Or is there an adjustment to be made so that Dolby Pro Logic or Dolby Digital works?
Thanks very much.
Manbearpig: Thanks for the replys. Millemissen, what do you mean by Audio Output settings? Rgds, Kai
Thanks for the replys. Millemissen, what do you mean by Audio Output settings?
Hi Kai,
I meant the 'audio output settings of the DVD2' - look at page 55 in the userguide (to be found on the B&O website).
N.B. Speaker 5 has nothing to do with the (missing) sub!
Greetings Millemissen
Hi Millemissen,
I've got the manual at home and will look it up. I have been reading through various manuals yesterday in the evening and already had a feeling that speaker 5 should work also without the missing sub. Since it doesn't work neither with TV nor with DVD are there any adjustments or settings to be made? Symptom is as follows: whenever I press speaker 5 the volume of the center and the Pentas is somewhat lowered and the Beolab 4000s are turned on but no sound is played through the rears. Strange.
Worst scenario: a faulty surround module in the Avant.
I hope this is not the case. I would consider it as highly unlikely since the TV is in super shape. Also, speaker 1-4 work as they should, which I would again consider quite unlikely if the surround module was defective... After a littel research, I've figured the following:
I use Scart 2 which is the Decoder scart for connecting the DVD2 to the Avant. Input 2 corresponds to Scart 2. That's why input 1 didn't work for connecting the digital coax. Now that I use input 2 it works.
Scart 1 is the AV scart. However, AV scart didn't work with the DVD2. Don't ask me why. The DVD2 just didn't receive a signal. As far as connections are concerned, in the menu, there's one named Decoder. Right no the option is "NONE". Should it be "V.Aux" or something?
Additionally, my Avant is type 8430. Therefore, it's the VCR Avant. It seems to have the older version of the Dolby Surround module.
Is this information of any help? Any ideas how I get speaker 5 to work? Setting up Bang and Olufsen surround sound has turned out to be far from easy for me...
Just to comfort you - it is possible
I ran me Avant VCR in 5.1 (actually 5.0) mode with a non B&O DVD player for many years.
I certainly had the centerchannel working!
Ok, sounds good. I've read elsewhere in a thread that when watching TV hardly anything is delivered through the rears if the programme is not in Dolby Digital. However, in my case, it appears that although turned on nothing at all comes from the rears in speaker 5 mode.Since the TV signal apparently creates uncertinty, I'll try it with DVD first and adjust settings according to the manual. If I get that to work, then it's probably only a small step.
Thanks once again!
Have changed the settings of the DVD2 now and it works. Not a whole lot of sound is transported through the rears but they are recognizably there.
Thanks a lot!
In speaker 5 mode, the Avavt's own speakers is the fifth channel
There is very little sound coming from the rear speakers on most things you watch in surround sound.
Try pressing List, 5, then down arrow multiple times. This will send everything to the rear. Then skip through various different programmes and/or inputs you should find something with rear sound.
Hey there,
it now seems to work all fine. There's really very little coming through the rears but they are there in Speaker5 now. Everything seems fine. Have I mentioned that I like the 4000s? I was sceptical at first, but those are really impressive speakers and the design on floor stands keeps on growing on me.
Another question: what settings do you choose? I mean the balance of sound: I have +6 for the fronts and +4 for the rears in the sound menu. What would you recommend? And: How does this interact when being on speaker and pressing down multiple times? On the TV display you can vary from +6 to -6 for the fronts but this variation does not seem to become reflected in the permanent sound settings. So, when varying by pressing down or up arrow a couple of times, is this also stored or is the adjustment lost the next time I turn on the TV? And if it's stored, what is the standard/preferred setting? I now have fronts +0. Any recommendations?
If you have a smartphone you can download an db meter app and measure the sound level with that, and adjust so that all the speakers are about the same level. +6 sounds high! I have -1 for the fronts and -2 for the rears.
I don't have a smartphone. Unfortunately. I'm pretty oldschool. I like everything where I can see something move, or spin or whatever. Thanks very much Magnus. My living room is about 25 square meters and distance to the fronts is about 3 meters and to the rears abozt 2 meters. Any suggestions?