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Just found a rusty Beogram 6500. Challenge to put my hands on! Sit down and watch my LOP's
Some rust on the bottomplate. Not sure if the electronics still works but will see, let's go....
The lid was heavily scratched so have been polishing it as much as possible and used backlight paint to cover the scratches. Polishing it again after...
Put the rope back in place!
Clean clean and clean the aluminium surface
Shiny again!
Platter was quite dirty and full of spots. My dishwasher method
My hart is beating, time to power up!
Voila!
Brengen & Ophalen
//Bo.A long list...
Colour me impressed! Excellent workmanship
Vinyl records, cassettes, open reel, valve amplifiers and film photography.
FANTASTICI am not so good with the cosmetics, how did you get the rust off ?
Christian
My re-capped M75 are my precious diamonds.
Wow, I would never have considered this a rescuable deck. It really was in awful condition. Well done.
Jacques
What's backlight pain?
EDIT: Paint, of course
blah-blah and photographs as needed
Leslie, you should be paied by B&O for saving all these pieces of history from garbage !!!!
Your work is always astonish !!!!!
That's always interesting to see that even with a lot of plastic pieces, these turtables could be saved !!!
Thank you all, some things looks complicated but in fact it isn't. It's not that difficult to take all parts of this type of turntable.
@Christian, how did get the rust off? Quite simple, using a steel brush, sanding block and some chemicals.
@Orava, backlight spray is used for cars tail lights to give it a "darker" look but it stays transparent.
Just lovely Leslie, thanks for the all the images.
You're welcome Christian, I love pictures
I have mentioned this before and I am not seeking to start a third worldwar on opinions but as one ofBeoworlds technical advisors with more than 35 years of experience in matters Beogram , I feel the need togenerally and strongly advice against washing Beogram platters.They may end up shiny and attractive looking to some owners but it's a fact that the delicate antistatic coating the factoryput on the platter surface will be washed away and it will no longer present its original properties regarding staticdischarge of records being played.
As also discussed previously, there may also be issues regarding oxidation towards the unprotected aluminium fromairs moisture and the unavoidable acid found in finger prints but this hasn't yet been confirmed since the eventualresults would require some time to take effect.
It is always up to the owner, what to do and how to treat their property.The producers advice is that platters, if needed, should normally be dusted off using a soft lint-free cloth.It is my experience that this works for most dust and dirt though particularly stubborn spots can be removedusing a quick swipe of a fingertip with a little saliva, then wipe off again straight away with a soft cotton cloth.Nothing more.
Having said this, it is always heartwarming to see another otherwise too-far-gone B&O unit rescued and restored.
MartinBeoworld moderator.
Dillen: I have mentioned this before and I am not seeking to start a third worldwar on opinions but as one ofBeoworlds technical advisors with more than 35 years of experience in matters Beogram , I feel the need togenerally and strongly advice against washing Beogram platters.They may end up shiny and attractive looking to some owners but it's a fact that the delicate antistatic coating the factoryput on the platter surface will be washed away and it will no longer present its original properties regarding staticdischarge of records being played. As also discussed previously, there may also be issues regarding oxidation towards the unprotected aluminium fromairs moisture and the unavoidable acid found in finger prints but this hasn't yet been confirmed since the eventualresults would require some time to take effect. It is always up to the owner, what to do and how to treat their property.The producers advice is that platters, if needed, should normally be dusted off using a soft lint-free cloth.It is my experience that this works for most dust and dirt though particularly stubborn spots can be removedusing a quick swipe of a fingertip with a little saliva, then wipe off again straight away with a soft cotton cloth.Nothing more. Having said this, it is always heartwarming to see another otherwise too-far-gone B&O unit rescued and restored. MartinBeoworld moderator.
I agree that washing Beogram platters destroys the antistatic finish and should be avoided at all costs. You often generate yet more static as the record slips on the resulting shiny surface on startup. This is particularly true if you fit a new rubber drive band which leads to almost instantaneous spinning of the platter and a fraction of a second for the record to catch up.
However I disagree that stubborn spots can simply be removed by any method. If you have a dirty platter then you are stuck with it as anything you do to a mark will result in a different but larger mark.
I have given several dirty platters away and can still see 5 or 6 on my top shelf as I refuse to fit a washed platter to any of the turntables that Beo4life sell.
If an otherwise nice turntable comes into stock with a dirty platter I usually put it on the "parking" shelf to wait for a suitable cheap donor unit which can be dismantled for parts.
Regards Graham
In this case I had to do something about this (and the previous one remember WW3 discussion) platter. Wish I had made picture how it was to proofe. So either I could choose to let it this way (ver bad looking as the bottom plate) or do it my way. I have sold two Beograms to friends of mine and never had any complaints so I guess it works doing it my way. But your theory is right Martin!
Graham, you own a business and have to make sure all goods you're selling should be in original and perfect state. I'm doing this as a private passionist who enjoys working and looking for alternatives to make my stuff as nice as possible.
Thinking about what you said Martin about the special antistatic layer. Is there some sort of lacquer you coul put on to achieve the same result?
Of course, when it comes to spots or stains there will be different degrees of 'stubbornness'.If stains are REALLY stubborn a replacement platter may be the only solution and, in cases wherea replacement cannot be obtained other, more drastic, cleaning methods could be a last resort until one is found.A no-longer-antistatic platter surely is better than no platter. Whether or not it is better than one with irremovablespots, I suppose, can be discussed as functionality and sound reproduction vs. looks.The decision is left to the owner in any case.
Martin
Leslie: Thinking about what you said Martin about the special antistatic layer. Is there some sort of lacquer you coul put on to achieve the same result?
Not that I am aware of.Finding something that will stick to the metal and also the neoprene streaks without ruiningthe friction would be difficult, I think.Remember the very shallow neoprene streaks on which the record rests, makes a slight vacuum under therecord when playing, this is an important detail in that it removes a great deal of rumble and other vibrationsand eliminates the need for a heavy (and often ugly) record clamp.
Ok, thanks. Anyway, I've saved another Beogram and for me it was a challenge to refurb this rusty thing. Still surprised though that the electronics is still working. It has been playing for several days now and still working.