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On the back panel of my Beocenter 9300 there is a dummy plug inserted into what appears to be a line out. Can a plug be inserted into this spot and connected to a power amplifier? Is that line out the connection point between the pre-amp and the power amp of the 9300? Many thanks.
Strictly it is there to connect a graphic equaliser into the circuit.
It could be used for a power amp also.
Regards Graham
Thank you Graham! Would this plug do the trick?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/290859641248?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649
That depends, has the RCA plugs been connected to the output or input pins in the DIN ?From the description I'd say it goes the wrong way. Maybe the seller has the other version too.
Martin
The RCA plugs would go into my power amp. The DIN plug would go into the line out, right?
Yes, but it still has to be connected to the correct pins inside the DIN.Of the seven pins in the DIN; The two outer are for datalink communications, the center pin issignal ground and the remaining four pins are outputs and inputs, left and right respectively.The RCAs will be connected to either inputs or outputs, not both.In other words, the cable could be for either playing something INTO the Beocenter or taking something OUT.You will need a cable to take the signal out.
Thanks Dillen! There are four pins on my dummy plug so I figured that a few on this one would be redundant. What pin would you recommend to go from the line out to the RCA in of my power amp? Anything you can point me to on EBay? Thanks.
I suggest you ask the seller and let him know exactly what you need.
The four pins in the "dummy" simply connects left and right inputs to left and right outputs respectively to allow theamplifier in the Beocenter to play (input) what comes from the built-in sources (output).
To put it diplomatically, the seller wouldn't know a DIN plug from a strip club. That's why I come here. :)
Locutus: Thank you Graham! Would this plug do the trick? http://www.ebay.com/itm/290859641248?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649
I do the same assumption as Martin here, since the description says that it is for connecting a CD etc. to a Beo amp, it will not work for your purpose. Until today I have not found a similar cable that only "goes in the other direction". BUT for this purpose you should buy something like this https://www.elfaelectronics.com/elfa3~ex_en/elfa/init.do?item=10-690-01&toc=0
available in different stores that sell electronic stuff, it has both audio in and out!
//Goran
Sorry if I am wrong but, to do what you want to do (if I understand well, using an external amp with your beocenter 9300), maybe you can use "powerlink to RCA cables" (i.e. available at sound heavenly) ?
I do not know if it will work better than with the line out and it probably depend on which "amp" you want to control the volume, but I think it is possible too.
idea ?
You are absolutely right Jacquesboo, I realized this also while in a meeting but you beat me to it.
Powerlink is volume controlled line level, in addition it is actually possible to use the cable which the original poster suggest (also available from others) as a "powerlink to RCA" converter
if you on the other hand want line level, without volume control you should use the TV/aux connection on your 9300
so the most common cable with DIN -> 2RCA can be used for either line in from CD etc. to a beomaster. OR as powerlink "out" to an external amp. For line out of a beomaster aux (no volume controll) you need the less common cable with 4x RCA or one with 2RCA where it is specified that the audio signal is actually DIN->RCA (rare if you ask me)
Very interesting BeoLignage! So instead of taking the dummy plug out of the Line Out and connecting a DIN plug there you're suggesting that I use the Powerlink connector with the 7 pin plug to RCA. Let me explain what I'm doing...my Beocenter 9300 has a bad power amp so I want to bypass it and run the pre-amp of the Beocenter into my Carver power amp. Since I want to control the volume from my Beocenter it sounds like your solution is a very good one.
for that purpose you should really use the powerlink connection!
please have a look at #mce_temp_url# also to understand the pin out of the din plugs, if really interested follow the link to peter pans page and have a look at the other connection posibilitys as discused above. compare number 7 and 8 and you will understand why Martin stated that it is not likely to work out on the covered connection of your 9300
cheers
Does ONE Powerlink cable hold BOTH left and right channels? Because there are two. Perhaps some experimentation is needed on my part.
Yes. In Powerlink there's both left and right channel. Thats why you can run only one cable from the Beo-unit to one speaker and 'daisy-chain' to other speaker(s).
yes, and please, make a feedback ;)
Project update: I received my 7 pin adapter which converts the DIN to two RCA jacks today and have just installed it onto my Beocenter 9300. The DIN will plug into the Powerlink 1 plug and will connect with the two RCA jacks into my Carver M-400 power amp bypassing the ailing power amp of the Beocenter. The result was fantastic. I'm not sure I could tell the difference between the 80WPC of the B&O and the Carver but there is the difference in power as the Carver has 200WPC. More importantly, the B&O S-75's sound brilliant with very good bass and linear and delicate mid-range and highs. Mission accomplished on this front.
The next challenge is to find a power source that will turn on the power amp at the same time as the Beocenter since the Beocenter doesn't have a switched outlet on the rear panel. I bought a Monster Green Power surge protector to accomplish this but the Beocenter draws too much power when turned off so the surge protector thinks it's on all the time. In short, this solution won't work so I'm back to square one on this problem. I have other plans as well which involve using a similar cable to stream music wirelessly to the AUX input of the Beocenter from an Apple Airport device. This should be interesting. Thanks to everyone involved here, I'm enjoying this community very much.
Hi:Do you hear a loud popping sound through your Carver AMP when you turn your 9300 ON using the DIN to RCA out?
I have a 9500 that I want to interface to an external amp. There's a loud pop every time I turn the 9500 on with the AMP on.
Derek
Yes, I do. BUT...I turned the Beocenter system on first. I want to see what happens when they're turned on simultaneously. To do that I need an amperage sensing power supply that will turn on the Carver amp when Beocenter is turned on. I'll probably talk to a professional about it tomorrow so stay tuned.
Maybe it could be possible with a beolink active but to be honnest I never really understand really how it works.If I understand well, you will be able to remote control your external amp. It works with beolab so why not with your amp... Maybe I am wrong
Jacquesboo: Maybe it could be possible with a beolink active but to be honnest I never really understand really how it works.If I understand well, you will be able to remote control your external amp. It works with beolab so why not with your amp... Maybe I am wrong
That’s because the Beolabs get a “on” signal from one of the pins in the 8-pin PL.
With the cable used by the OP there are only three pins connected i.e. aurdio ground, plus left and right channel audio.
Then it also depends on the amp, if it has a trigger input…
Does anyone know how to get around the loud "pop" when interfacing the 9300/9500 to an external amp?Derek
Derek,
Turn on the Beocenter first then turn on your power amp four or five seconds later. This works for me.
Thom
Hi Thom:Yes, but that's a procedural solution and not entirely satisfactory because I'd like to be able to use the remote control to turn the system on.
I'd like to be able to use the remote control to turn the system on and off.
I totally get that. I'm still searching for a one button solution myself but I don't think it's going to happen. I may just bite the bullet and pay a professional to fix the power amp. Next week I'm connecting an Apple airport device to the AUX input so I have access to my digital music library. I'll let everybody know how that goes.
Here is the result of all the timely and useful advice I've received here. The Beocenter is the control unit feeding into the Carver M-400 power amp on the lower right. I'm also streaming my music wirelessly using an Apple Airport Express into the AUX input. Thanks to all who contributed to this thread.
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Sorry Locutus but there is something I do not understand in your configuration.
You do not use the CD player (airport express), you do not use the internal amp (you have an external amp), you cannot remote control your system (as you have to power on and off your external amp)....
So why not plugging directly your airposrt express in your external amp ?
If your answer is : "because the beocenter 9300 is an astonish machine a XX century icon", I will understand ;).
It is just a joke (I saw that you also have CD's and it is a very good CD player, probably the largest you can get ;)).
Jacquesboo,
I wanted to have a mostly complete B&O system although I own separate pre-amp, tuner and power amp. I've owned B&O components before and I've always been impressed by them. I do use the CD player on the Beocenter and I still have cassette tapes so the 9300 is a very good fit for me. The Beocenter 9300 is an astonishing machine and a 20th century icon. I'm sorry if I plagiarized you. :)
Hi there,
I'm kicking in here though the threads opening question is answered, because my question is about exactly the same plug, the line in/out on a 9500.
My situation/plan is a bit different:
The 9500 is working in the living room and before owning this one I had a different amp working at the same place supplying music for the living room and two other rooms as well via ONE plain speaker cable and two SINGLE speakers in the other rooms.
Of course MCL should be the obvious solution for this setup, but I still have that humble speaker cable covered up nicely under the floor and I'm quite tempted to use it again and hesitate to switch to an visible cable for the MCL connection (cannot cover it without a lot of hassle). Then I thought about BeoLink wireless, which sounds good but would probably interfere with my WLAN and phone setup and, to be honest, is way too sphisticated for some bits of music in the kitchen and the other room.
Next thing on my mind was to use the MCL outputs for connecting those two odd speakers again, but it seems this could be harmful to the 9500s amp (Ohm-wise).
I thought about other wireless solutions and then stumbled upon sending the signal via my powerlines with dLan audio. This brings my up to the following question:
Is the line in/out the right choice to deliver a line signal to the powerline connector? It has RCA jacks and from what I understood having a line signal which is not affected by the volume control of the 9500 in the living room would give me the option to have rather quiet sound in the living room and some louder sound in the kitchen. Is that a correct assumption? Then I could simply use the cable with in/out RCA jacks and hook up the outs to the powerline adapter.
I know that the sound quality via powerline is far from HiFi, but since there is only one low budget speaker in the kitchen I don't care to much. Maybe there's a better option around the corner...or using the analog speaker cable is okay...open for suggestions...
Yours,
Ray