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Connecting BV5 with Mac Mini (HDMI->DVI)

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steve1977 Posted: Sat, May 3 2014 2:31 PM

This is my first post and I hope to get your help.

I still have my well-loved BV5, which works very well. I own the HD-ready version with DVI video input.

I have now decided that I would want to connect my Mac Mini to it. Unfortunately, I realize that there is some science how to select the DVI port. I looked online and didn't find a reply.

How do I program the BV5 to access the DVI port? Besides the DVI (for video), I will also need to connect with red/white audio input (from the headphone jack of my Mini).

I believe this is actually quite trivial, but have not found a way in hours.

Thanks in advance for your help!!!

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When I go in the "connection menu" on my BV5, I have three fields (V.Mem, AV, Decoder). It is not clear to me how this menu works and how I can configure / register my Mac Mini in this menu.

I looked through the manual, but is not really clear to me either.


Any advice?

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steve1977:

When I go in the "connection menu" on my BV5, I have three fields (V.Mem, AV, Decoder). It is not clear to me how this menu works and how I can configure / register my Mac Mini in this menu.

I looked through the manual, but is not really clear to me either.

Any advice?

I have never owned or played with a BV5 - however I downloaded the reference guide and user guide to see what suggestions I might have for you.

I discovered that the BV5 is quite different from the BV6s, BV7s and BV8s that I have played with.

It seems to have only THREE scary type sockets.

I hope your DVI cable is mapping to the SCART socket ....

Looking at the back of the unit, from left to right, the sockets appear to be labeled as follows:

  1. V.TAPE
  2. AV
  3. DECODER

This matches the appearance on the on-screen menu when you are setting up the unit.

It seems to me (i.e. this is my first time at this) that the DECODER is the primary port - and your set-top box should be cabled to this - and depending upon the type of STB you have you associate the Beo4 command to this port e.g. SAT

It seems as though any DVD should be cabled and associated with the secondary port of V.TAPE (although AV is an option) - and you associated DVD or V.TAPE to the first (left hand) port 

Therefore it seems to me that the middle port is where to attach the Mac Mini's DVI, and to the associate a Beo4 command to - on my BVs that has always been the Beo4 PC command, but perhaps in this case you might need to use the Beo4 V.AUX command

As you may gather, I am guessing ... and if the above does not work, I would switch the cables and associations of V.TAPE and AV ... leaving DECODER for your set-top nox

I hope that helps a little

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I'd guess "PC" will activate your DVI input. You'll probably have to add it to your Beo4 though.

Too long to list.... 

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elephant replied on Sun, May 4 2014 11:44 AM

bayerische:

I'd guess "PC" will activate your DVI input. You'll probably have to add it to your Beo4 though.

Since the BV5 manual does not contain instructions for the Beo 4 please try these ..........

 

Add an extra ‘button’

When you add a new function to the Beo4 list, you can then bring up this new ‘button’ in the Beo4 display.

  • Press and hold the standby button down.

  • Press LIST to get access to the Beo4 setup function.

  • Let go of both buttons. ADD? appears in the display.

  • Press GO to bring up the list of available

    ‘buttons’ to add from. The first ‘button’

    appears in the display, it flashes on and off.

  • Press or to move forwards or backwards in the list of all extra ‘buttons’.

  • Press GO to add and place the ‘button’ on its

    preset position or as the first ‘button’ in the list,

    or ...

  • ... press 1 – 9 to insert the ‘button’ at a specific

    position in the list.

  • ADDED appears, indicating that the ‘button’

    has been added. You leave the Beo4 setup function automatically.Add an extra ‘button’

    When you add a new function to the Beo4 list, you can then bring up this new ‘button’ in the Beo4 display.

    • Press and hold the standby button down.

    • Press LIST to get access to the Beo4 setup function.

    • Let go of both buttons. ADD? appears in the display.

    • Press GO to bring up the list of available

      ‘buttons’ to add from. The first ‘button’

      appears in the display, it flashes on and off.

    • Press or to move forwards or backwards in

      the list of all extra ‘buttons’.

    • Press GO to add and place the ‘button’ on its

      preset position or as the first ‘button’ in the list,

      or ...

    • ... press 1 – 9 to insert the ‘button’ at a specific

      position in the list.

    • ADDED appears, indicating that the ‘button’

      has been added. You leave the Beo4 setup function automatically. 

     

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steve1977 replied on Sun, May 4 2014 12:37 PM

Thanks, I think this is leading in the right direction. Not successful yet though. Programming the Beo4 appears to be quite a science? Is this right and where do you get the info from. Mine is actually brand-new, but the manual is quite basic.

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steve1977:

Thanks, I think this is leading in the right direction. Not successful yet though. Programming the Beo4 appears to be quite a science? Is this right and where do you get the info from. Mine is actually brand-new, but the manual is quite basic.

I have the Beo4 with the (GO) button ... is yours the joystick version ?

The manual I got was quite comprehensive ... however I copy & pasted from the manual I downloaded several years ago

Check the B&O site for product resources or Beoworld if you have the right membership level (silver I think)

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The PC instruction is reserved for the VGA input at the back (right inin the middle, just above where the powersupply lead enters the cabinet.

The DVI has to be assigned (through the servicemenu at  "plasmaversion setup" to Camcord/Vtape/AV/Decoder.

When you enter the socket/connection menu, you can cycle through the "naming"options at each scart (VTape/AV or Decoder) or at the Camcord menu.

When you cycle through the namings, you will notice that (depending on the setting at Plasmaversion setup) that there are several options with /DVI .

Something like DTV-DVI, VAux-DVI, DVD-DVI etc. Even STB-DTV-DVI is possible.

When you setup one of the scarts with e.g. DVD-DVI, then this scart is used for audio and video goes to the DVI.

Depending on the mounted panel (D7), the DVI will respond to 480p/576 and 1080i. 720p probably not (not at mine).

So, setting up a digital Sky box, you can use the Vtape scart, name it STB-DTV-DVI. Connect the DVI to it port, analog sound to the scart and the digital audio to the first RCA socket for support of Dolby Digital or DTS.

Be aware that when you use the DVI input, you will not have the B&O menu's showed when using eg. the STB. The DVI bypasses the BV5's videochassis. The (internal) DVI lead goes directly into the panel itself.

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The newer Beo4 version with the joystick can be used with the BV5, but doesn't add anything. It will act as a normal (older) Beo4.

To use the (Joystick version) Beo4, it has to be mentioned in the servicemenu of the beovision. Which the BV5 doesn't support.

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Thanks for all your replies. I indeed have the joystick version of the Beo4, which explains that I could not find the go-button. But I assume it is just pressing the joystick?

My BV5 also does not have a menu called "Plasmaversion setup". Where did you find this?

Overall, I am starting to understand how it works. I have set AV to DVD-DVI, but it still does not access my DVI port for video. Need to try a bit more around.

Can you elaborate more what you mean by the "B&O menus". What menus will be missing through the "bypass"?

And two more things: (i) I thought that the BV5 with DVI could actually do 720p. You sure it cannot? (ii) Is it correct that I can even use the Beo4 to control the MacMini? If so, how?

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steve1977 replied on Sat, May 17 2014 5:15 AM

I tried a few more cables and I am starting to believe that the issue may be the resolution. Any insights whether a BV5 with an DVI input is capable to display 720p? From what I am reading online, it is supposed to, but no idea whether this information is correct. How can I find out? Also, I don't know how to set my MacMini to display 480p (if that's what's really required). I thought it was supposed to scale automatically, but maybe that's the issue.

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steve1977 replied on Sat, May 17 2014 6:35 AM

And one more piece of information. I also failed to connect to connect my computer via VGA input (not DVI). Actually, the notebook screen turns "back" when I connect the BV5. Any idea what I can do to get it working?

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