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Hi fellow BeoWorlders!
While waiting to pull the trigger on the Avant – it was not love at first sight similarly to what I had with Beovision 11 due to the rather plain design of Avant and the odd-looking center speaker grille, despite the magic of B&O's signature mechanical movements – I'm very interested in upgrading my Beo5 to the new BeoRemote One.
I've been making enquiries about its availability, and I am getting very mixed information from varied sources: on this forum, there is a post saying that it is available for pre-order (where?) and will be delivered from June 1 onwards. Some of my sources say that it will be available late in this summer or early in the fall, and now I've got word from B&O that it will be available at the end of this year.
So which is it, or does it depend on the country you live in? The communication of the availability seems to span anything from June to several months later.
To dealers possibly reading this post – if any dealer in Europe can sell me a BeoRemote One in the June/Summer timeframe, somehow, with shipping to Finland, please PM me. While waiting for Avant's design to grow on me, and contemplating what to do with my BV11-46, I'd like to purchase the new remote as soon as possible. I find myself wanting it more badly than the forthcoming iPhone 6, for which I'll probably be standing in line again, or have someone standing in line for me, depending on the weather (not kidding). For BeoRemote One, do I need to go camp outside B&O's HQ in Struer? There might be some crazy PR value in doing so
KMA
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Steel sounds better to me as the weight of the beo4 is part of its appeal. The Remote One will be available with the Avant at first and separately later I believe .
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BeoBoy68:2- Go to your favourite BeoDealer and order your BeoRemote One as separately part ! Reference 1716 - price € 270.- !
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BeoBoy68:@KMA 2 solutions : 1- You can camp front Beo Head Quarter until December 2014 if you want !? 2- Go to your favourite BeoDealer and order your BeoRemote One as separately part ! Reference 1716 - price € 270.- ! Good luck !
2 solutions :
1- You can camp front Beo Head Quarter until December 2014 if you want !?
2- Go to your favourite BeoDealer and order your BeoRemote One as separately part ! Reference 1716 - price € 270.- !
Good luck !
Solution 2: I have yet to find a dealer who can deliver the part ref. 1716, so I'm apparently needing some good luck with that. The price is wonderful, heck I'd be willing to pay more!
My guess is that they hold it back, untill there will come an update for the V1/BV11... to support it.
MM
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Millemissen: My guess is that they hold it back, untill there will come an update for the V1/BV11... to support it. MM
Hi MM,
This crossed my mind, but as the User Manual for BeoRemote One instructs, it already supports all products that can be controlled with Beo4. Perhaps the support for BV11 will improve over time, but I see no reason why BeoRemote One could not be used as a replacement for Beo4/Beo5 with BeoVision 11 already.
KMA:ut I see no reason why BeoRemote One could not be used as a replacement for Beo4/Beo5 with BeoVision 11 already.
There are a lot of Beo4 devices, that will never be updated/can't be updated.
That should be no problem with the V1/BV11..'s.
It might be that they simply aren't ready for manufactoring them yet.
Updating the One? I asked my dealer, but he did not know.
PhilLondon: KMA: ut I see no reason why BeoRemote One could not be used as a replacement for Beo4/Beo5 with BeoVision 11 already. The only downside I can see now is that the Info and Guide buttons will be inactive in Beo4 emulation mode. I am wondering if he software can be updated easily, there is no mention of that.
KMA: ut I see no reason why BeoRemote One could not be used as a replacement for Beo4/Beo5 with BeoVision 11 already.
ut I see no reason why BeoRemote One could not be used as a replacement for Beo4/Beo5 with BeoVision 11 already.
The only downside I can see now is that the Info and Guide buttons will be inactive in Beo4 emulation mode.
I am wondering if he software can be updated easily, there is no mention of that.
Interesting... I wonder if anyone has tested BeoRemote One with a BeoVision 11 to see if it is already a compatible TV with most of BeoRemote One's new functions/buttons (perhaps MyButtons excluded)? I think I should visit a dealer and give it a try.
Also, it should be possible to bring up Guide with the Green button and Info with the Blue button in any case – which works with Beo4/5/6.
And I wonder, if an update is needed for Guide and Info to work, which needs updating: BeoRemote One or Beovision 11? If someone buys an Avant for the main TV and has BV11 in another room (which might end up being my case eventually), it would not make much sense to need to upgrade the BeoRemote One at a later date to make use of Info and Guide buttons with BV11.
Anyway, I'm willing to be a guinea pig / crash test dummy with BV11 and BeoRemote One, should I get to buy one somewhere
Millemissen:There are a lot of Beo4 devices, that will never be updated/can't be updated. That should be no problem with the V1/BV11..'s. It might be that they simply aren't ready for manufactoring them yet. Updating the One? I asked my dealer, but he did not know. MM There is a tv - and there is a BV.
wtlc2zpx:Two dealers told me the remote wasn't yet available... Even though I suggested they could get it as a spare part.
Apologies if this has been said before, but one thing I love(d) about the Beo4 is that it is very tactile. I knew by feel where all of the buttons were, especially the volume, standby, arrows, etc. It doesn't look as though the Beoremote One has a similar tactility. Everything seems flat and flush save for maybe the OK/Arrow buttons. But only true experience will tell.
Sal: Everything seems flat and flush save for maybe the OK/Arrow buttons.
Actually the buttons are not flat at all, but it doesn't show on the pictures. You'll easily feel the different rows. The buttons you need to call without looking are in places you can find easily by touch (channels +/- and volume are at the bottom left and right, play/pause FF/REW are below the arrow pad, Info, Text, Guide are above the arrow pad).
For the source selection, you'll need to look at the screen, unless you're using the 3 pre-programmed buttons, which can also be easily found by touch.
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I guess we will get used to it
P.S. As you may notice from that comment, I am not 100% in love with the One.
Big question - can I use a Beo4 w.navi with the Avant? The userguide says nothing about this.
PhilLondon: Two dealers told me the remote wasn't yet available... Even though I suggested they could get it as a spare part.
Two dealers told me the remote wasn't yet available... Even though I suggested they could get it as a spare part.
I'm having enough issues getting the Essence remote. Seems to have a month lead time from ordering. I ordered mine at the beginning of May (and is estimated to be here end of May).
You do wonder why B&O doesn't stock some of these in advance? Surely if you announce a new product, you'd have a quantity in stock?
I'm also interested in the new BeoRemote One.
Millemissen:Big question - can I use a Beo4 w.navi with the Avant? The userguide says nothing about this.
I was told the Avant requires the BeoRemote One.
Also, the BeoRemote One will become the standard remote.
Raeuber: BeoRemote One can't be updated (like Beo 4). But V1/BV 11 will be updated to use the three MyButtons and INFO and GUIDE. The other old Beo4 devices probably will accept INFO and GUIDE with PUC updates for exeternal devices, but not MyButtons.
BeoRemote One can't be updated (like Beo 4).
But V1/BV 11 will be updated to use the three MyButtons and INFO and GUIDE.
The other old Beo4 devices probably will accept INFO and GUIDE with PUC updates for exeternal devices, but not MyButtons.
Of cource the BeOne can be updated - if they can upload the current software to it, they can also upload a new one, if needed.
But probably the BeOne won't need any new software for a long time - in the future though, surely some changes will have to be made..
The question is - will the dealers be able to do this?
The BeOne will work out of the box with Beo4 devices - it is just a matter of configuration.
And you can have more configurations at the same time - see guide!
What needs to be updated are the 'older' BSys4 devices. Did your dealer tell you that that will happen?
Not much sense in changing the PUC's for pre-BSys4 tv's in order to get the INFO/GUDE buttons working.
Who wants to pay a BO technician to come for changing the PUCs (that is too expensive, imo).
PhilLondon: Millemissen:Big question - can I use a Beo4 w.navi with the Avant? The userguide says nothing about this. I was told the Avant requires the BeoRemote One. Also, the BeoRemote One will become the standard remote.
I'll have to give that a try next time I am in a shop.
They both use the same codes.
Probably some functions aren't possible, but then it would depend on whether you need/use these functions or not.
And I have 'lots of' Beo4's in my house anyway - I don't intend to throw them away.
Millemissen: Not much sense in changing the PUC's for pre-BSys4 tv's in order to get the INFO/GUDE buttons working. Who wants to pay a BO technician to come for changing the PUCs (that is too expensive, imo).
All of the video products that are based on the Video Engine will receive an update to support the new PUC system that amongst other things supports the INFO and GUIDE buttons. Those new PUCs are available online, so no need to have a technician come over (ideally).
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That is great news.
But if those and the BeOne will be supported on pre-BSys4 devices, you would still have to have someone coming to do the PUC-update manually.
Millemissen:They both use the same codes.
I don't think they do. In the shop I was the guy was controlling the Avant from far and no other TV were reacting.
I don't like a situation, where I'll have to have different remotes in my house.
It is hard enough to 'teach' my wife to use one (the Beo4)
PhilLondon: Millemissen:They both use the same codes. I don't think they do. In the shop I was the guy was controlling the Avant from far and no other TV were reacting.
That is because you can configure the One to react so!
Millemissen: That is great news. But if those and the BeOne will be supported on pre-BSys4 devices, you would still have to have someone coming to do the PUC-update manually. MM
Why? Possibility for downloading PUC files from BeoPortal has been introduced with BeoPlay V1 and runs through BV11, BSys4 and now Avant.You probably mean Pre-Video Engine products (of which the last ones were BV10 and BSys3). These (to my knowledge) won't get a software update and won't support the new BeoRemote One buttons.
PapaJustify: Millemissen: That is great news. But if those and the BeOne will be supported on pre-BSys4 devices, you would still have to have someone coming to do the PUC-update manually. MM Why? Possibility for downloading PUC files from BeoPortal has been introduced with BeoPlay V1 and runs through BV11, BSys4 and now Avant.You probably mean Pre-Video Engine products (of which the last ones were BV10 and BSys3). These (to my knowledge) won't get a software update and won't support the new BeoRemote One buttons.
I wrote pre-BSys4 - and that is what I meant!!!
It was part of the discussion, if the new PUC's could be used on those devices - and in this way benefit from some of the new buttons.
You say, that they can't.
That ends the discussion, and - as I wrote - probably no one would update them anyway...because of the costs.
Millemissen:Updating the One? I asked my dealer, but he did not know.
Millemissen:Of cource the BeOne can be updated - if they can upload the current software to it, they can also upload a new one, if needed.
It depends if the software in on a ROM or Flash/EpROM chip. An old fashion ROM can't be programmed. It also depends if the hardware allows it (it would some kind of connector to connect to a PC).
The reason I was asking is because if I get one of the early model, and the software is buggy...
Millemissen: I wrote pre-BSys4 - and that is what I meant!!! It was part of the discussion, if the new PUC's could be used on those devices - and in this way benefit from some of the new buttons. You say, that they can't. That ends the discussion, and - as I wrote - probably no one would update them anyway...because of the costs. MM
Fair enough that you want to end the discussion here, I just tried to help :PI am just stating that V1 and BV11 have been released prior to BSys4 and therefore "pre-BSys4" is a bit inaccurate if you want to include V1 and BV11), but yeah, lets not beat this horse to death. :)
Millemissen:That is because you can configure the One to react so!
It either uses the same code and all the TVs would react at the same time... or it doesn't use the same code. When not emulating a Beo4, it seems it uses a new set of code.
I'll eat my shorts if they should have used the oldfashioned ROM.
No one does that anymore - it wasn't done with the latest Beo4's, so why with the BeOne?
If the software is buggy, that needs to be fixed.
Question is, can a dealer do that, or can that only be done in Struer (or the Czech factory) - like with the latest Beo4's?
PapaJustify: Fair enough that you want to end the discussion here, I just tried to help :PI am just stating that V1 and BV11 have been released prior to BSys4 and therefore "pre-BSys4" is a bit inaccurate if you want to include V1 and BV11), but yeah, lets not beat this horse to death. :)
BSys4 is the term used for the engine in V1/BV11 and of course in the standalone BeoSystem4.
So - no beating of the horse....as long as we understand each other.
PapaJustify:Fair enough that you want to end the discussion here, I just tried to help :PI am just stating that V1 and BV11 have been released prior to BSys4 and therefore "pre-BSys4" is a bit inaccurate if you want to include V1 and BV11), but yeah, lets not beat this horse to death. :)
Pardon me - I should have written pre-BSys4 based tv's
Millemissen:Pardon me - I should have written pre-BSys4 based tv's M M There is a tv - and there is a BV.
Raeuber:The only question is if the INFO and GUIDE buttons will work for PUC-controlled devices. If so, the PUC tables of these TVs need an update by dealers.
No, they won't. Not on those "pre-Bsys4" TVs.
PapaJustify:No, they won't. Not on those "pre-Bsys4" TVs.