Value Beogram 6000

Dear members,

I've just acquired a Beogram 6000 quad and since there is no real market was wondering how much these go for or what they are worth? I didn't have much time to think about the deal. I wasn't the only one interested and thought that I got to have one because they seem to be rare. Any thoughts?

Greetings,

Kai

Depends on condition, working and cosmetic obviously. However, they are rare and do seem to fetch a considerable amount when sold if in good condition etc.

I would say a working example would fetch anything between £300-600 in the UK.

It depends on many factors though so difficult to say for sure.

Ben

I have (d) one - I have actually given the RIAA board away as I never used it. Just a 4002 really but with the board it can be used with modern equipment. I value my 4000 a lot more. 

Of course the 4000 is the ultimate of this range, but there has been a bit of an influx of 4000s on eBay over the last couple of years. I wouldn't say they are particularly rare, although obviously valuable!

Whereas, I don't remember a 6000 appearing for sale here in quite a long time. 

Ben

I have four 4000s myself, three of which fully functional. Very nice deck. I'll pick up the Beogram 6000 in a couple of weeks and will then report back. It's supposedly fully operational and appears to be in good cosmetic condition. Haven't seen one myself. That's why I was asking. Apparently there were quite a couple of people from abroad who were truly interested in the deck. That's why I had to be fast. Now I'm thinking about getting a Beomaster 6000 quad in rosewood to complement the record player. Will probably also not be an easy task although those seem to be more common than the Beogram 6000.

Cheers,

Kai

Manbearpig:

I Now I'm thinking about getting a Beomaster 6000 quad in rosewood to complement the record player. Will probably also not be an easy task although those seem to be more common than the Beogram 6000.

Cheers,

Kai

Why? I do have one of those still - I think it is under a bed somewhere! It was very clever for its time but is really just a pair of better specified 901s. A huge amount of space are the analogue displays made to look like Star Trek Bio beds and there is simply not enough space. The 6000 doesn't sound as good as the 3400 (I have had both running side to side) and the reasons to have one, quad records, are mostly poorly produced and likely to have been played on heavy tracking record players which will have destroyed the rear channels. The allure of this system is great I know, but in the real world, a Beomaster 4400 and Beogram 4000 will eat it for breakfast. The 1960s 5000 system is the real gem if you want a vintage system that will outperform most moderns.

 

I know that you are right, Peter. You always are. But your arguments are rational. My rationality is more than bounded when it comes to collecting ;-) I'd just like to have a quad system now that I've found the Beogram. What would be suitable speakers by the way?

Of course SACD and an appropriate system is far superior by any means but everybody can have that.

However, I have followed your advice and have an Avant, Beosystem 7000, Pentas as fronts and Beolab 4000s as rears in my living room. I'm perfectly satisfied and won't change that in the nearer or even more distant future. However, I use a Beogram 4000 with the Beosystem 7000 instead of the Beogram 7000. Works perfectly as it should.

Cheers,

Kai

 

I understand exactly what you are saying!

Appropriate speakers at the time were P50s or equivalent, but a variety of other speakers could be used. Obviously because you will want 4 of them space will be more of a concern!

The 6000 4channel usually gets a bit of a bashing on here, but I rather like mine. If you have the space and are a collector, of course it is very desirable. As Peter says, sound wise a 4400 system or 5000 system will beat it, but don't let that put you off owning one. It really is quite the statement piece!

Look out for one with the Commander remote as well as not all of them still have that. Another issue with these is they are very rarely in working order anymore and are a real job to fix up properly. Unless you really know what you are doing (I do not!) then either find one that has been serviced or make sure you have a good mech in place.

Obviously once you have found the Beomaster you will need the matching Beocord etc. and it just continues from there!

Best of luck and let us know what you decide,

Ben

 

I've found my 6000 quad system gives me a real dilemma. It sounds ok, nothing special but it looks absolutely incredible. Visitors are left in awe of its beauty and can't believe that it's from the mid 70's. Mine is set up but the amp isn't actually connected to anything! I've got an 80's Bm6000 next to them and the Beogram 6000 is connected to that instead.

I would definitely recommend P50's or P45's if you can find some that don't have broken woofers, they are very sweet sounding speakers. I've yet to get permission to stick 4 of them on the walls though.

I'm not going to part with the 6000 quad setup but I don't think I'll actually use it all that often.

Other than the apparent technical difficulties with the Beomaster 6000 and the Beocord 5000, I think one of the problems with this setup is that it takes up a lot of space and is not really suited for a living room since you can't integrate it with a TV, there is no matching CD Player, etc. Therefore, esentially you need a separte room and since the system is not particularly suited for a bedroom either but still takes up a lot of space, not many will find one useful nowadays. It's more for the exclusivity of things, for owning something special.

Would the Beovox C75s go well along with the quad system? Four P50s is indeed overkill and I find them very difficult to place.

What's a reasonable price for a Beomaster 6000 quad by the way? Could get one from the original owner with original box. Not sure about cometics, however. Still, I value original owner and known history quite highly since I've made quite good experiences with that. My best Beogram 4000 has some optical blemishes (the lid in particular) but has never let me down technologically. I also got it from the original owner. However, the Beomaster 6000 will not be inexpensive judging from what the seller is asking. But he has the matching Beocord 5000 as well...

Greetings,

Kai

The slippery slope!! The Beocord 5000 is fantastic and staggeringly unreliable! The number that actually work can probably be counted on your fingers and are all owned by Beoworld members!! And I wouldn't trust them further than I could comfortably spit a rat! (The Beocords, not the members! )

My 6000 cost me about £400 I think. Tim Jarman fixed a few bits on it and I have used it in quad mode with the Beogram 6000 and S75s and S45s. I have a number of quad records - both CD4 and SQ. A boxed one in good working and cosmetic condition would certainly be unusual.

Where are you based?

Hi Peter,

thanks for answering. I'm in the south of Germany. Thinking about selling your Beomaster?

Cheers,

Kai

Actually, if you had been in the UK, I was thinking of lending it to you so you could get it out of your system! Too heavy and delicate to send internationally though!