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If I had the funds for an avant that's the only choice of stand I would go for. I absolutely love the motorised table stand, that on a low stand would look simplistically amazing.
I think an avant with the table stand on a white ikea lack tv stand would look so sleek.
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markiedee: I think an avant with the table stand on a white ikea lack tv stand would look so sleek.
...until the stand starts to sag under the weight
(I have two of them.)
--mika
Yes,
I really like the table stand. Very neat. Just one thing is missing : the possibility to turn the tv from left to right like all the other BeoVision stands.
I think the floor stand is very "B&O-esque", and show the magic of the TV ! The choregraphy is amazing !
Pity for the cable management, i agree, the long black sock behind the TV ruins this magic work of art.
If i had to choose, i don't really know which one i would choose...
markiedee: I absolutely love the motorised table stand, that on a low stand would look simplistically amazing.
I absolutely love the motorised table stand, that on a low stand would look simplistically amazing.
Same here. The height of the motorised stand has been a showstopper for me (since before the discovery of the upscaling issues... but I'm confident the latter will be fixed soon).
My Avant would hang on the wall - fixed.
MM
There is a tv - and there is a BV
Flatpanels.dk has now got an Avant.
http://www.flatpanels.dk/nyhed.php?subaction=showfull&id=1406009900
Looking forward to the review.
We will have the UK news up shortly. The TV just got delivered this morning.
Here is the link: http://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?subaction=showfull&id=1406021390
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Millemissen: My Avant would hang on the wall - fixed.
Sticks out too much, I feel. Plus you could never take the back off and it gets quite warm (the rear).
'Sticks out' - we'll see. We would be sitting right in front of it, so it probably doesn't matter much.
'take the back off....' - according to my information, it will be possible to manually turn it out in order to reach the connections.
And if it just hangs there, one could leave the metal back off permanently.
TorbenRasmussen: We will have the UK news up shortly. The TV just got delivered this morning. Here is the link: http://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?subaction=showfull&id=1406021390
Tak Torben,
I was - so it seems - too fast
Did not see it there, as I posted above.
P.S. God fornøjelse med testen.
Moxxey,
What about the sound of the 3-ways speaker ?
Can you tel us if you compare to a BV10, BV11, BV12, the old Avant ??
Did you try it without the BL3 ?
Thanks.
Steph: What about the sound of the 3-ways speaker ?
Not that impressed. I prefer the sound from the BV11/BL11 combination, which I had before. Was never impressed with the Avant speaker when I heard it in the store. Just sounds a bit simple/flat/basic to me.
Put it this way, it's not a patch on either the BL7.4, 7.2 or 7.6, in any setup. You don't need BL3s or a sub with a 7.6/7.2 and the 7.4 was on another level with ALT speakers complementing the centre.
My TV is setup so the Avant speaker is a centre. 3.1, including the BL11 sub.
Steph: Did you try it without the BL3 ?
No. No point :)
moxxey: Steph: Did you try it without the BL3 ? No. No point :)
that means, that you are basing your opinion of the built-in speakers solely on what you heard in the store?
Millemissen: that means, that you are basing your opinion of the built-in speakers solely on what you heard in the store?
No, it was also temporarily setup without the BL3s through install, too, as the BL3s were previously in the office. It isn't quite as 'wide sounding' as my previous BV11/BL11 combination and is no way near the level of a BV7 speaker. I could never live with the Avant's speaker for watching movies. TV, perhaps.
I'm NOT saying it's a poor speaker. It's good. But it's just not I've been used to for the previous 10+ years. Before the BV10/BV11, I had BV7s, so got used to those as a centre.
The Avant speakers just sounds a bit small, muffled and so on to me. No point spending £7000 on a 55" TV and limiting yourself to listening to that centre speaker for a good Blu-ray movie with uncompressed audio.
Raeuber:Hello, if you have an older Beovision with Beolab 7 or 10, a purchase of ANY actual Beovision will be a big downgrade soundwise. And it's very poor that you can't connect a BL 7/10 center to actual Beovisions (you can only connect 21 Beolabs to new Avant ). When will we see a new high-end Beovision with an outstanding center-speaker?? Even if you have four Beolab 5 you don't get a perfect sound when watching Blurays with 5.1 sound because of the poor center speakers of Avant or BV 11! Regards Räuber
Raeuber: .. And it's very poor that you can't connect a BL 7/10 center to actual Beovisions... Even if you have four Beolab 5 you don't get a perfect sound when watching Blurays with 5.1 sound because of the poor center speakers of Avant or BV 11!
.. And it's very poor that you can't connect a BL 7/10 center to actual Beovisions...
Even if you have four Beolab 5 you don't get a perfect sound when watching Blurays with 5.1 sound because of the poor center speakers of Avant or BV 11!
Hi Räuber,
Not true - you can deactivate the internal speakers, and add as many center speakers as you like.
How about 10 x BL7.4 and 10 x BL10 - would that be enough - well, better leave a couple of the connections for the 4 BL5's
mawheele: Not sure I'd necessarily agree with this totally. DSP technology has come a long way in recent years to get a lot more out of a lot less. And the Avant speaker is not that much less. Look at what is inside that thing. No acoustic lens for sure... But not bad as a centre either.
Not sure I'd necessarily agree with this totally. DSP technology has come a long way in recent years to get a lot more out of a lot less. And the Avant speaker is not that much less. Look at what is inside that thing. No acoustic lens for sure... But not bad as a centre either.
I would agree with you - I don't find the Avant speakers bad either.
And people should think of, what the two dedicated center speaker did cost.
Anything is possible, but not always sell-able.
Millemissen:Hi Räuber, Not true - you can deactivate the internal speakers, and add as many center speakers as you like. How about 10 x BL7.4 and 10 x BL10 - would that be enough - well, better leave a couple of the connections for the 4 BL5's MM There is a tv - and there is a BV.
You'd better not!
Beosound Stage, Beovision 8-40, Beolit 20, Beosound Explore.
Millemissen: I would agree with you - I don't find the Avant speakers bad either.
Where has anyone said 'bad'? Talk about taking something way out of context. It's just not as good in comparison.
It's just no way near the level of a 7.4 centre. The 7.2/7.6 is stunning, with plenty of bass. Not sure you even need a sub with a 7.6. I'll never forget my 7.4/BL9 combo. Incredible.
The Avant is a good couple of levels below the BV7-55, in terms of picture and audio. Anyone who tells me otherwise is talking themselves out of their self-doubt. Hell, for regular TV, my BV10 in the other room offers a much sharper image (no picture upscaling required).
moxxey:Where has anyone said 'bad'? Talk about taking something way out of context. It's just not as good in comparison. It's just no way near the level of a 7.4 centre. The 7.2/7.6 is stunning, with plenty of bass. Not sure you even need a sub with a 7.6. I'll never forget my 7.4/BL9 combo. Incredible. The Avant is a good couple of levels below the BV7-55, in terms of picture and audio. Anyone who tells me otherwise is talking themselves out of their self-doubt. Hell, for regular TV, my BV10 in the other room offers a much sharper image (no picture upscaling required).
I did some initial testing on some of my movies yesterday, but we haven't received a 4K capable BD player yet, so I can't do a comparison with other scalars just yet. I can, however, see that if I feed the TV with superb quality movies such as "Sunshine", "Casino Royale", and various Pixar/Disney animated movies I can't see anything other than a picture quality that would look just as crisp as my Kuro. Other movies didn't fare quite so well, such as "Pacific Rim", but to be honest I don't know this movie good enough yet to know if posterization and less-than-average quality had always been there and I just didn't notice until I pulled the chair up two feet from the screen.
It was hard to pass any judgement on the quality of the TV signal, as I have no control over the content and can't really do a side-by-side comparison with other TV's, but on 1080i signals showing e.g. CSI at a decent bitrate I saw nothing that would upset me so far. I did come across a bug when watching Harry Potter from a 720p TV source, where massive stutter would suddenly appear. I couldn't replicate this afterwards, but my wife swore she didn't see the same on our own TV at the same time, so it must have been induces by the Avant.
The TV suffers massively from black crush, which I hope to correct somewhat when I do the calibration. You couldn't fix it 100% on the BV11, so my hopes are not high, as B&O don't allow you to mess with the gamma curve points individually. All annoying "improvements" are off course turned off (noise reduction=0, sharpness=0, distance to screen = minimum, motion system deactivated) running in Movie Mode. I assume that you guys are running the same routine and are not just using the "as is" settings?
Raeuber: because of the poor center speakers of Avant or BV 11! Regards Räuber
BeoGreg: Each time I watch a movie (blu ray or mkv file) I'm thinking the same : wow, what a sound.
Each time I watch a movie (blu ray or mkv file) I'm thinking the same : wow, what a sound.
Funny, every time I hear a set of Bose speakers I think exactly the same thing, though I doubt we mean the same thing...
Jeff
I'm afraid I'm recovering from the BeoVirus.