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A rant of shower thought about the future of Beolink

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Millemissen
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@BeoMatthews

We’ll see - I myself am confident, that the existing NL products will keep on working as NL.

It’s the future portefolio I am worried about.

I don’t think hat we will hear anything new from John O’Manchester.

Firstly his lips are sealed and secondly he seems quite content with having to sell ‘only’ AP2/CC products in the future.

P.S. Which ‘next hight-margin product’ were you thinking about?

MM

There is a tv - and there is a BV

Beobuddy
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BeoMatthew:

But I think the rumors of the death of BeoLink have been greatly exaggerated. Take another possibility (totally hypothetical of course!) that a cash strapped company can release their next high-margin product ahead of some of the firmware that makes it a complete product, but require the capital from the sales to help do so. Surely a first for a technology company!

It's sitting there for the past 3 weeks... Shoved through the door by a dealer.  The ones I speak haven't sold one yet.

This one has only been released for a few minutes starting first with a software-update. I'm thrilled to hear the Balance inside the house but hardly heard it as the wife's comments were merciless. "We don't need another expensive speaker and certainly not one that looks like a lamp. Just send it back.."

So, I'm standing on a crossroad of doubt. I surely can't convince her when I tell her about the lack of remote control we now have with the BS1.

 

Sandyb
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Sandyb replied on Fri, Apr 24 2020 10:20 AM

how can they be exaggerated when dealers have been told that future products will not include NL?

And that they are operating to a new streaming platform - which almost certainly means just AP/CC.

Will they support NL going forward for quiet a few years? Yes, but thats a different question.

 

BeoMatthew:

Millemissen:

BeoMatthew:

I wouldn't worry about the future of BeoLink Multiroom.

Glad to hear that you are somsure about that.

In a former post you wrote (in a different matter): ‘from my many years on the inside’ - so you seem to have some insights?

I am afraid though, that some people in the forum want to hear that directly from the company.

MM

I've urged as much, but I'm on the outside now. Maybe our friend from Manchester will be authorized to say more (-;

But I think the rumors of the death of BeoLink have been greatly exaggerated. Take another possibility (totally hypothetical of course!) that a cash strapped company can release their next high-margin product ahead of some of the firmware that makes it a complete product, but require the capital from the sales to help do so. Surely a first for a technology company!

 

Razlaw
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Razlaw replied on Fri, Apr 24 2020 8:14 PM
John:

I've decided to have another crack at a live Q&A tomorrow evening (Friday 24/04/2020 at 20:00). Had long enough to lick my wounds after the last car crash attempt!

I'll tell you all what's going on then if you would like to join me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVfhxUQrXUs

Thank you for the good news John! Very much appreciated!

Beolab 28s Beolab 9s Beolab 12-3s Beolab 1s Beolab 6000s 2 pairs Beolab 4000s Beovision 7-55 Beovision 10-40 Beoplay V1 32 inch Beovision Avant 32 inch Beosound 1 (CD player) Beosound 3000 Beosound 5 Core Essence MKII Beoplay M5

Sandyb
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Sandyb replied on Fri, Apr 24 2020 8:19 PM

Well well - thats excellent news.

The forum has a voice perhaps after all.

They should never have started down this road in the first place, but great that Tour to Join etc will resume.

 

Razlaw:
John:

 

I've decided to have another crack at a live Q&A tomorrow evening (Friday 24/04/2020 at 20:00). Had long enough to lick my wounds after the last car crash attempt!

 

I'll tell you all what's going on then if you would like to join me.

 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVfhxUQrXUs

 

 

 

Thank you for the good news John! Very much appreciated!

 

Fansastic
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Fansastic replied on Fri, Apr 24 2020 9:00 PM
Thanks John for sharing this exciting news! Great to hear it by you as you are an important and appreciated speaks person between B&O and the forum in my opinion.

Great B&O seems to listen to and care for us fanatics here.

Liked your live Q&A again, keep on going!

BV Harmony 65 / Eclipse 55 / BL 50 / 19 / 18 / BS 2 all brass

BV Horizon 48 / V1 40 / BL 17 / Beoplay S3 all black

V1 / BL 3 / BS Essence MKII / Beoplay A3 all white

BS Moment / BS 3000 / BS 3200 / BL 400 all silver

Headphones / bluetooth speakers / BLC NL-ML / BLGateway

I know…B&O virus has grown on me ! 

John
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John replied on Fri, Apr 24 2020 9:37 PM

Glad you all enjoyed and it was nice to bring some positive news. John

John
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John replied on Fri, Apr 24 2020 9:37 PM

Glad you all enjoyed and it was nice to bring some positive news. John

Millemissen
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Just finished the video - had to wait untill my wife had gone to bed.

She is an early riser.....I am a nightowl.

 

Thanks for your Q&A podcast - I enjoy really enjoyed it and am looking forward to more stuff from you.

 

And a big thanks for being the first to bring good news about BS Balance and future B&O - we really needed that.

Very exciting indeed and for me kind of a relief!

For those of the readers, who did not watch the podcast (yet), here it is:

There is a tv - and there is a BV

nico vercammen
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That is indeed good news !
The shares can go up again now ;-)

 

 

Nico

 

 

 

mbolo01
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mbolo01 replied on Sat, Apr 25 2020 8:48 AM
Very good news indeed, hopefully DLNA support will be back in the roadmap too Unsure

BS Moment, BS Core, BG 4002, BC 4500, BS1, BL18, BL19, BL8000 + RCV1, A6, M5, M3, A1, P6 (tks Botty), H5, TR1

Jaffrey2230
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Their share prices will go up if they can take market share away from other premium wireless and multi room speaker vendors. I feel their recent products have been very good! 

B&O in my life 😊: 

 

  • Beolab 8002 + Beolab 2 + Beosound Core with Essence Remote (Office)
  • Beolab 6000 + Beolab 11 + Beosound Core with Essence Remote (Bedroom)
  • Beoplay A9 Mk2 (Living Room)
  • Beosound 1 with wireless dock (Portable)
  • Beosound Balance (Dining)
  • Beoplay H95 (Focused listening, travel)
  • Beoplay H9 (3rd gen) (retired)
  • Beoplay P6 (Portable)
  • Beotime wall clock (hallway entrance)
  • BMW X5 50i with B&O Audio Package (Commute/drive)

 

 

 

laseralex
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laseralex replied on Sun, Apr 26 2020 1:42 AM

Fantastic news that Beolink Multiroom will be coming to the Balance!  The performance is still miles ahead of CC and AP2, and the touch-to-join is fantastic.  And since I have a couple of Beosound Moments that don't support CC or AP2 it appears that I'll be able to continue to expand my collection.  (Though it's the Stage, not the balance, that I'm currently eyeing.)

Now waiting on the Halo remote.

 

:)

Sources: 2x Beosound Moment • 4x Beosound Essence Mk II
Speakers: 3x Beolab 8000 • 2x Beolab 6000 • 2x Beolab 3 • 3x Beolab 2
Integrated:  1x Beosound 2 • 1x Beosound Level • 4x BeoPlay M5 • 1x BeoPlay A6
Control:  16x* Essence Remote  • 1x Beoremote Halo

* Yes, really! 🤦‍♂️

laseralex
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laseralex replied on Sun, Apr 26 2020 1:42 AM

[Duplicate post: deleted]

Sources: 2x Beosound Moment • 4x Beosound Essence Mk II
Speakers: 3x Beolab 8000 • 2x Beolab 6000 • 2x Beolab 3 • 3x Beolab 2
Integrated:  1x Beosound 2 • 1x Beosound Level • 4x BeoPlay M5 • 1x BeoPlay A6
Control:  16x* Essence Remote  • 1x Beoremote Halo

* Yes, really! 🤦‍♂️

Millemissen
Top 10 Contributor
Flensborg, Denmark
Posts 14,680
OFFLINE
Gold Member

@BeoMatthews

We’ll see - I myself am confident, that the existing NL products will keep on working as NL.

It’s the future portefolio I am worried about.

I don’t think hat we will hear anything new from John O’Manchester.

Firstly his lips are sealed and secondly he seems quite content with having to sell ‘only’ AP2/CC products in the future.

P.S. Which ‘next hight-margin product’ were you thinking about?

MM

There is a tv - and there is a BV

Beobuddy
Top 25 Contributor
Utrecht, The Netherlands
Posts 3,972
OFFLINE
Founder

BeoMatthew:

But I think the rumors of the death of BeoLink have been greatly exaggerated. Take another possibility (totally hypothetical of course!) that a cash strapped company can release their next high-margin product ahead of some of the firmware that makes it a complete product, but require the capital from the sales to help do so. Surely a first for a technology company!

It's sitting there for the past 3 weeks... Shoved through the door by a dealer.  The ones I speak haven't sold one yet.

This one has only been released for a few minutes starting first with a software-update. I'm thrilled to hear the Balance inside the house but hardly heard it as the wife's comments were merciless. "We don't need another expensive speaker and certainly not one that looks like a lamp. Just send it back.."

So, I'm standing on a crossroad of doubt. I surely can't convince her when I tell her about the lack of remote control we now have with the BS1.

 

Sandyb
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Posts 2,186
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Bronze Member
Sandyb replied on Fri, Apr 24 2020 10:20 AM

how can they be exaggerated when dealers have been told that future products will not include NL?

And that they are operating to a new streaming platform - which almost certainly means just AP/CC.

Will they support NL going forward for quiet a few years? Yes, but thats a different question.

 

BeoMatthew:

Millemissen:

BeoMatthew:

I wouldn't worry about the future of BeoLink Multiroom.

Glad to hear that you are somsure about that.

In a former post you wrote (in a different matter): ‘from my many years on the inside’ - so you seem to have some insights?

I am afraid though, that some people in the forum want to hear that directly from the company.

MM

I've urged as much, but I'm on the outside now. Maybe our friend from Manchester will be authorized to say more (-;

But I think the rumors of the death of BeoLink have been greatly exaggerated. Take another possibility (totally hypothetical of course!) that a cash strapped company can release their next high-margin product ahead of some of the firmware that makes it a complete product, but require the capital from the sales to help do so. Surely a first for a technology company!

 

Razlaw
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Posts 4,345
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Bronze Member
Razlaw replied on Fri, Apr 24 2020 8:14 PM
John:

I've decided to have another crack at a live Q&A tomorrow evening (Friday 24/04/2020 at 20:00). Had long enough to lick my wounds after the last car crash attempt!

I'll tell you all what's going on then if you would like to join me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVfhxUQrXUs

Thank you for the good news John! Very much appreciated!

Beolab 28s Beolab 9s Beolab 12-3s Beolab 1s Beolab 6000s 2 pairs Beolab 4000s Beovision 7-55 Beovision 10-40 Beoplay V1 32 inch Beovision Avant 32 inch Beosound 1 (CD player) Beosound 3000 Beosound 5 Core Essence MKII Beoplay M5

Sandyb
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Sandyb replied on Fri, Apr 24 2020 8:19 PM

Well well - thats excellent news.

The forum has a voice perhaps after all.

They should never have started down this road in the first place, but great that Tour to Join etc will resume.

 

Razlaw:
John:

 

I've decided to have another crack at a live Q&A tomorrow evening (Friday 24/04/2020 at 20:00). Had long enough to lick my wounds after the last car crash attempt!

 

I'll tell you all what's going on then if you would like to join me.

 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVfhxUQrXUs

 

 

 

Thank you for the good news John! Very much appreciated!

 

Fansastic
Top 150 Contributor
The Hague, The Netherlands
Posts 768
OFFLINE
Bronze Member
Fansastic replied on Fri, Apr 24 2020 9:00 PM
Thanks John for sharing this exciting news! Great to hear it by you as you are an important and appreciated speaks person between B&O and the forum in my opinion.

Great B&O seems to listen to and care for us fanatics here.

Liked your live Q&A again, keep on going!

BV Harmony 65 / Eclipse 55 / BL 50 / 19 / 18 / BS 2 all brass

BV Horizon 48 / V1 40 / BL 17 / Beoplay S3 all black

V1 / BL 3 / BS Essence MKII / Beoplay A3 all white

BS Moment / BS 3000 / BS 3200 / BL 400 all silver

Headphones / bluetooth speakers / BLC NL-ML / BLGateway

I know…B&O virus has grown on me ! 

John
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Manchester
Posts 47
OFFLINE
Bronze Member
John replied on Fri, Apr 24 2020 9:37 PM

Glad you all enjoyed and it was nice to bring some positive news. John

John
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Manchester
Posts 47
OFFLINE
Bronze Member
John replied on Fri, Apr 24 2020 9:37 PM

Glad you all enjoyed and it was nice to bring some positive news. John

Millemissen
Top 10 Contributor
Flensborg, Denmark
Posts 14,680
OFFLINE
Gold Member

 

Just finished the video - had to wait untill my wife had gone to bed.

She is an early riser.....I am a nightowl.

 

Thanks for your Q&A podcast - I enjoy really enjoyed it and am looking forward to more stuff from you.

 

And a big thanks for being the first to bring good news about BS Balance and future B&O - we really needed that.

Very exciting indeed and for me kind of a relief!

For those of the readers, who did not watch the podcast (yet), here it is:

There is a tv - and there is a BV

nico vercammen
Top 500 Contributor
Elversele, Belgium
Posts 174
OFFLINE
Bronze Member

That is indeed good news !
The shares can go up again now ;-)

 

 

Nico

 

 

 

mbolo01
Top 50 Contributor
Louannec - France
Posts 2,035
OFFLINE
Bronze Member
mbolo01 replied on Sat, Apr 25 2020 8:48 AM
Very good news indeed, hopefully DLNA support will be back in the roadmap too Unsure

BS Moment, BS Core, BG 4002, BC 4500, BS1, BL18, BL19, BL8000 + RCV1, A6, M5, M3, A1, P6 (tks Botty), H5, TR1

Jaffrey2230
Top 150 Contributor
Washington DC
Posts 520
OFFLINE
Bronze Member

Their share prices will go up if they can take market share away from other premium wireless and multi room speaker vendors. I feel their recent products have been very good! 

B&O in my life 😊: 

 

  • Beolab 8002 + Beolab 2 + Beosound Core with Essence Remote (Office)
  • Beolab 6000 + Beolab 11 + Beosound Core with Essence Remote (Bedroom)
  • Beoplay A9 Mk2 (Living Room)
  • Beosound 1 with wireless dock (Portable)
  • Beosound Balance (Dining)
  • Beoplay H95 (Focused listening, travel)
  • Beoplay H9 (3rd gen) (retired)
  • Beoplay P6 (Portable)
  • Beotime wall clock (hallway entrance)
  • BMW X5 50i with B&O Audio Package (Commute/drive)

 

 

 

laseralex
Top 500 Contributor
Posts 240
OFFLINE
Bronze Member
laseralex replied on Sun, Apr 26 2020 1:42 AM

Fantastic news that Beolink Multiroom will be coming to the Balance!  The performance is still miles ahead of CC and AP2, and the touch-to-join is fantastic.  And since I have a couple of Beosound Moments that don't support CC or AP2 it appears that I'll be able to continue to expand my collection.  (Though it's the Stage, not the balance, that I'm currently eyeing.)

Now waiting on the Halo remote.

 

:)

Sources: 2x Beosound Moment • 4x Beosound Essence Mk II
Speakers: 3x Beolab 8000 • 2x Beolab 6000 • 2x Beolab 3 • 3x Beolab 2
Integrated:  1x Beosound 2 • 1x Beosound Level • 4x BeoPlay M5 • 1x BeoPlay A6
Control:  16x* Essence Remote  • 1x Beoremote Halo

* Yes, really! 🤦‍♂️

laseralex
Top 500 Contributor
Posts 240
OFFLINE
Bronze Member
laseralex replied on Sun, Apr 26 2020 1:42 AM

[Duplicate post: deleted]

Sources: 2x Beosound Moment • 4x Beosound Essence Mk II
Speakers: 3x Beolab 8000 • 2x Beolab 6000 • 2x Beolab 3 • 3x Beolab 2
Integrated:  1x Beosound 2 • 1x Beosound Level • 4x BeoPlay M5 • 1x BeoPlay A6
Control:  16x* Essence Remote  • 1x Beoremote Halo

* Yes, really! 🤦‍♂️

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