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Dear members,
I've already asked a similar question but am still a bit confused about the answer. I now have a Beomaster 6000 quad, a Beocord 5000 and a Beogram 6000. However, all three seem to have different wood colors. I've found this picture on here:
http://archivedarchivedforum2.beoworld.org/cfs-filesystemfile.ashx/__key/CommunityServer.Components.PostAttachments/00.00.26.89.37/6000s.jpg
Which colors are these? The brighter one is the same wood as my Beomaster 6000 quad. However my teak Beocord 5000 still seems to be much brighter than that. Any ideas? Are both different sorts of rosewood?
Seems to be pretty hard to get the entire system in matching wood colors as long as it's not white ;-)
Greetings,
Kai
There can be minor differences but these are the most common woodsorts used by B&O:
Martin
Thanks Martin,
really strange. I've seen very different colors and those were not painted. My all original rosewood Beogram 4000 is much darker than the rosewood in your picture (a really dark brown).
Anyway - just from looking at the picture in my initial posting the bottom one would be rosewood and the top one teak then? Or are they both just different shades of rosewood?
Both Beomasters in your link are in palisander.And none of B&Os woodsorts are painted, it's real wood, hence the natural differences.
If you put on your nerd cap and take a look at the serialnumber label, you can often spot a stamped note like "T3" or "P2", largely referringto the general pattern of the woodsort. T for teak, P for palisander, E for oak (and H for white).
The wood tones change with age, and they also change depending on how they are treated, I have a BM 1000 in oak, it has 3 different shades, where the top and front looks like teak, the sides of the top cover a little brighter and the sides of "front" has the original oak tone, I have been sanding and cleaning them but to no avail they are stained from some furniture care chemical that goes deep into the wood,
Direct sunlight, heat and bad care change the tone forever, specially the oak is prone to color changes and nearly impossible to restore.
Collecting Vintage B&O is not a hobby, its a lifestyle.
I have an S80 cabinet in Rosewood which is partly sun bleached on the back which makes it two-tone rosewood and what looks very much like Teak. You can try to lightly sand with a very fine grit sandpaper, clean with ethanol and retreat with a good wood oil such as Danish Oil and the colour may return a bit. The grain of the wood can also help identify which you have - not foolproof as some are similar.
Dave.
Thanks guys. That's very good information. I think I'm in need of a teak veneer for a Beomaster 6000 then to make it match with the other components of the system. Can the wood on the Beomaster 6000 quad be easily swapped?
If you wipe the wood with Ethanol, it should give you an idea of what colour it will end up after treating with oil - but only on bare wood, after any other wax or finish is removed. Try that before replacing the veneer.
I don't know about the front panel but the side panels on the BM6000 are quite thick so I don't know how easy it will be to find panels/veneer of the correct thickness?
Here the BM 1000 (Oak) and below a BG 1000 (Teak)
That's a very Teak looking Oak finish on the BM! All of the Oak I've seen is really pale in comparison. Wood is a living substance and does change a lot.
The other problem is that there are so many different types of Oak and without knowing which sub-type of Oak was used for the veneer, it complicates things as the grain and colour of some Oaks look like Teak - but most don't!
Martin's photographs have me thinking some of my pieces that I assumed were rosewood may in fact be teak.
When in doubt, there's always this book...
I have a pair of S80.2 in oak with assorted damage. All my efforts to make them presentable have failed miserably. Solid oak is nice to work with, but this veneer seems impossible.
--mika