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Hi
I have a BS9000 which I want to connect to a pair of B&W speakers via a Rotel power amp (auto sensing for power on/off)
I need to use the B&O remote (BEO4) as the amp does not have remote (or volume controls for that matter, just 'trimming' screw controls)
If have a 5 pin din with pins 2 (gnd) and 3 and 5 wired out to RCA and have connected those RCA's to my amp inputs (left and right).
When I connect the 5PD to the Line out of the 9000 I get good quality sound but can't control the volume. (the volume seems to be being controlled but the output does not vary, probably a fixed level line out??)
When I connect the 5PD to either of the 'speaker' outputs I get no sound (I had sound earlier which when on low volume was 'hissy' but this sound has now disappeared altogether for some reason) . It was my understanding that when connected to either of the speaker/powerlink sockets I would get sound and be able to use the B&O remote for volume control.
Could someone give advice as to which should work and whether I am missing anything.
Is the line out switchable somehow to variable output?
Many thanks
pandh
I used mine like this at first before I got the Lab 8000's, driving a McIntosh MC240 tube amp.
The Aux socket has a fixed voltage out, you have to use the Powerlink socket, or one of them, each carries both L and R. What you need is a plug for the other socket to trick the 9000 into thinking it's hooked up to PL speakers. Without it, it assumes it is part of a Masterlink remote setup and disables the PL audio outputs if I recall correctly.
I think Steve at Sounds Heavenly could get you a plug, or I'm sure someone here knows how to make one and can advise. I haven't seen mine in ages so can't take it apart and advise on what's wired to what.
Jeff
I'm afraid I'm recovering from the BeoVirus.
Thanks for the help. Did some cable changes and all now works perfectly.
Great unit and combination. Sound is very impressive.
Thanks for your help
Hi Jeff,
Yes, I have designed a Powerlink Blanking Plug, which goes into the spare Powerlink socket to make the Beosound 9000 think that it has Beolab speakers connected. This is needed due to a software issue that tells the 9000 not to respond to remote control commands unless Beolab speakers are plugged in.
A similar issue also affects some Beovision TVs (particularly those with only one Powerlink socket, eg. BeoCenter 1, Beovision 6, Beovision 8-32, etc) as they need to be tricked into thinking that Beolab speakers are connected before the Powerlink socket can be enabled (eg. for use with a non-B&O amplifier and passive speakers).
If you need any further help, please feel free to ask.
Kind regards, Steve.
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Hi Steve i also want to connect my non powered klipshorns to my Beosound 9000 but i also want to use my Beolab 8000s also can i still do this to control volume with the bs9000? do i need the blanking plug? what do i need to do here?
Hi Wokbelly,
Yes, I can help! As your Klipschorn speakers are passive (ie. unpowered), they will need to have either a Beolink Passive, MCL2P or an audio amplifier of around 30 watts or more connected between the B&O audio system and the speakers to boost the signal.
If you are using Beolink Passive or MCL2P, you need this cable to connect it to the B&O system:- http://soundsheavenly.com/powerlink-8-pin-din-connection/23--pl2-black-.html
If you are using an audio amplifier (non-B&O), you need this cable instead to connect it to the B&O system:- http://soundsheavenly.com/bang-olufsen/110--5pd-2rca-.html
As long as you have at least one Beolab speaker connected to the Beosound 9000 as well, then the 9000 will detect this speaker and the 9000 will operate from the remote correctly.
If you are using a non-B&O amplifier with its own volume control between the 9000 and the Klipschorns, please set the amplifier volume to approx. 50-75% and then adjust it as required to match the level of your other speakers. The volume of the Klipschorns can now be controlled automatically from the B&O remote along with the other speakers.
The only thing you need is a Din-plug and a piece of wire between pin 2 and 4.
If no powerlink is used, the BS9000 starts in option 0 (A-opt) mode. Re-programming to option 1 will make the BS9000 functioning again.
Every time the BS9000 is disconnected from the mains, the BS9000 has to be set again in option 1.
So the plug is a usefull investment.
Thanks Beobuddy,
Just to clarify - as Wokbelly mentioned that he has Beolab speakers connected to the Beosound 9000 as well as his Klipschorns, he won't need the DIN plug with the link wire.
So Steve I'm not sure i understand what the Beolink Passive,or MCL2P is not that familiar with em sorry i do have an extra powerlink cable though so if you could send me a link / picture of them so i would know that would be great thanks
Hi wokbelly,
Beolink Passive and Beolink MCL2P are just amplifiers made by B&O, you can see details of Beolink Passive here (MCL2P is very similar):-
http://www.beoworld.org/prod_details.asp?pid=981
You need a fully wired mk.2 Powerlink cable to use with these amplifiers. Or you can use any non-B&O power amplifier instead to boost the signal to your speakers if you prefer.
Is a masterlink cable needed for this to operate with Beolink passive and the beoosound 9000 ? or just a powerlink mk2 cablewith the Beolink passive ? and then speakers hook to the speaker outs? or powerlink out of the Beolink passive ? Thanks
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Hi,
Ralf is correct, in a simple setup where the the Passive is boosting passive speakers in the same room (ie. all the control is done from the Beosound) then you just use a fully-wired mk.2 Powerlink cable from the Beosound to the Passive, the infra red eye on the Passive is not used.
When the Passive is moved to another room to give separate control of the passive speakers, it would be connected via a Masterlink cable instead and then the infra red eye would be added to give control inputs for volume, etc.
For either setup, passive speaker cable and plugs would link the Passive to the speakers.