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help finding a post (DLNA/tagging/cover/Moment)

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Weebyx
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Weebyx Posted: Tue, Feb 28 2017 11:28 AM

Hi all

There was a thread regarding the Moment and DLNA, where a post was made that contained experience and links to tools, regarding id3 tagging and covers and so on.

I simply cannot find it, it was very specific in which tool was used to update tags and covers.

Can someone remember in which thread this was ?

Thanks.

/Weebyx

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Weebyx:

Hi all

There was a thread regarding the Moment and DLNA, where a post was made that contained experience and links to tools, regarding id3 tagging and covers and so on.

I simply cannot find it, it was very specific in which tool was used to update tags and covers.

Can someone remember in which thread this was ?

Thanks.

/Weebyx

Check out bliss music tagger.

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Was it this thread:

http://archivedforum2.beoworld.org/forums/p/20094/165678.aspx#165678

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Weebyx replied on Tue, Feb 28 2017 12:10 PM

Millemissen:

Unfortunately no, it was a post with I think 3 utilities with link to each, where it was mentioned how to add covers to all files, and tag them correct.

but I will take a look at bliss :)

I tried this morning to rip one cd in iTunes, and the install Twonky 8.4 and point my Moment to Twonky, it stood and "harvested" for 1 hour and the one single album was not here yet.

So I am thinking that tags or so a wrong, OR that the Moment does not work with Twonky 8.4 ? Twonky 7.2 did not wotk on my MacBook with Sierra

/Weebyx

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For Win/PC users the most prominent software for tagging is MP3Tag:

http://www.mp3tag.de/en/

Since your location is Denmark (and you are the one who asked), I can point you to another solution (Yate) posted on the forum:

http://archivedforum2.beoworld.org/forums/p/23395/195152.aspx#195152

MM

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Weebyx replied on Tue, Feb 28 2017 12:57 PM

Millemissen:

For Win/PC users the most prominent software for tagging is MP3Tag:

http://www.mp3tag.de/en/

Since your location is Denmark (and you are the one who asked), I can point you to another solution (Yate) posted on the forum:

http://archivedforum2.beoworld.org/forums/p/23395/195152.aspx#195152

MM

Thanks, I will try it :)

/Jacob

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Hiort replied on Tue, Feb 28 2017 1:13 PM

May be worth mentioning that Moment is harvesting the Artist art from Gracenote, based on the artist name provided in the music file metadata. If Gracenote cannot find any image, the tile will be empty. Hopefully there will be a way to manually add artist art.

I have further learned that the data Moment is using for Mood Wheel is based on the artist and song titel, and harvested from Gracenote.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Weebyx replied on Tue, Feb 28 2017 1:28 PM

Hiort:

May be worth mentioning that Moment is harvesting the Artist art from Gracenote, based on the artist name provided in the music file metadata. If Gracenote cannot find any image, the tile will be empty. Hopefully there will be a way to manually add artist art.

I have further learned that the data Moment is using for Mood Wheel is based on the artist and song titel, and harvested from Gracenote.

 

Ok, I will see if I can get my Album found via DLNA and iTunes later today, I don't think it should take more than 1 hour pr album ? There must be something wrong with my Twonky/Mac/iTunes setup ?

/Weebyx

 

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Hiort:
I have further learned that the data Moment is using for Mood Wheel is based on the artist and song titel, and harvested from Gracenote.

I wonder if it would be useful to fill also mood sphere in tagging your music tracks metadata, whether the Moment this would take into account or only Gracenote's moods list.

Here's an example of Gracenote moods:

 

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mbolo01 replied on Tue, Feb 28 2017 9:50 PM
Weebyx - Do you see your album in the Twonky user interface? If yes does it have the correct cover ?

Artist image comes from Gracenote harvesting by the Moment. Images are not always found, even for well known artists.

Album cover comes from the DLNA server assuming the tag is readable by Twonky which is not always the case when cover is added via iTunes.

I use Metadatics on the Mac for that

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Weebyx replied on Wed, Mar 1 2017 5:50 AM

mbolo01:
Weebyx - Do you see your album in the Twonky user interface? If yes does it have the correct cover ?

Artist image comes from Gracenote harvesting by the Moment. Images are not always found, even for well known artists.

Album cover comes from the DLNA server assuming the tag is readable by Twonky which is not always the case when cover is added via iTunes.

I use Metadatics on the Mac for that

I Figured out that the "Get Album Artwork" in iTunes, does not work with Twonkey, Itunes will show the album, but Twonky will not, however, if you manually select Artwork in iTunes, it updates the tags correct with the image, and all is good in Twonky :) Now to wait to see if the Moment also is happy :)

/Jacob

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Hiort replied on Wed, Mar 1 2017 7:01 AM
Weebyx:

I Figured out that the "Get Album Artwork" in iTunes, does not work with Twonkey, Itunes will show the album, but Twonky will not, however, if you manually select Artwork in iTunes, it updates the tags correct with the image, and all is good in Twonky

That is correct. iTunes just put the album art in a separate folder when you do "get album artwork".

 

 

 

 

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mbolo01 replied on Wed, Mar 1 2017 7:10 PM

Weebyx:
Now to wait to see if the Moment also is happy :)

If Twonky is happy, the Moment is usually happy too! Reminder: this will solve your album cover image, not the artist image for wich the end user has no control

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Hiort replied on Wed, Mar 1 2017 7:53 PM
mbolo01:

Reminder: this will solve your album cover image, not the artist image for wich the end user has no control.

Know that it will probably be functionality added so that user can have control of artist images.

 

 

 

 

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