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Beolab 9, use both PL jacks for different sources?

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Michael
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Michael Posted: Tue, Sep 29 2015 6:47 PM
I've been thinking about this for a while. Would it be possible to use both powerlink jacks on beolab 9 for two different sources?

I am thinking beovision and an extra system either just for music or for a cinema system with an independent projector and AV receiver.

Thoughts?

And what about beolabs with only one jack?

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elephant replied on Tue, Sep 29 2015 7:00 PM
Isn't one for input and the other output (daisy chain)

Look for a circle symbol with an arrow in or an arrow out

Eg >) and (>

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Frederic replied on Tue, Sep 29 2015 9:48 PM

Check out almando powerplay.

small (important) buyer beware: the almando has a small but noticeable 'ghost'noise that you don't get when connecting a source directly to the speakers. On bl8000 less noticable then bl9.

I sent a mail in July to almando but they never bothered to answer:

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Hello,

I bought a Almando Powerlink switch a year (Order No. 300000044) ago (connected input1 : Beomaster 7000 and input 2: a ML beolink active) output were a pair Beolab 8000.
I reecently upgraded the BL8000 to a pair of Beolab 9. Surprisingly I know hear an annoying humming in the tweeters of the Beolab 9. All cables are B&O MkIII cables. This humming I do not get we I connect the inputs directly to the speakers only when I connect the almando switch in between. 
I have the version with the dipswitches (Both are ON (OBEN)). I don’t dare to swith to OFF  (unten) by fear of damaging my beolab 9’s.
Could You help me further or indicate if there might be something wrong with the grounding within the powerlink switch which creates this annoying tweeter hum ?

 

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Razlaw replied on Tue, Sep 29 2015 10:14 PM

While I have no need to do so, I have wondered the same thing as the initial question in this thread. I just looked at one of  my Beolab 9s, and I do not see any difference between the two PowerLink connections. I also have 1s, 4000s, and 6000s and have always understood there to be no difference between the two PowerLink connectors on each speaker.

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Dave Farr replied on Tue, Sep 29 2015 10:22 PM
My thoughts too. I asked this same question regarding bl4000's last year as I was thinking about using a Playmaker into one input and another source into the other. I never got around to trying it though.

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There is no difference, you can use either, but not both (for different sources - or rather you should not!).

Normally the second/the free one is used for daisychaining to a next BeoLab.

Every PL-cable carry the right and the left signal - therefore the swich on the speakers to determine, which one to play right and which one left.

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rxcohen replied on Tue, Sep 29 2015 10:52 PM

I had the same issue with my BL1s and could not do it. I have a BV11 with BL1s connected, and a McIntosh pre-amp for music that I wanted to use the BL1s with. Based on feedback from here and some further reading, I will try to connect the pre-amp RCA stereo output to the mini-DVI connector on the BV11 and see if that works. Not sure about sound degradation, but will see. Otherwise separate speakers will be the next steps. In terms of AV/Projector, I am not sure there is a solution for that except some expensive integration (if possible at all).

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Michael replied on Wed, Sep 30 2015 7:33 AM
I think both of the PL connections is the same and that the speaker will play both sources but I would have to try it. I think perhaps the line signal will be sent back to the other source and that it might damage it in some way, or that interference could be introduced by different systems.

Another solution, that's way simpler, would probably be to use both R and L signals in the PL lead for two different sources. So when I want to use the projector, then I'll just switch all speakers to L instead of R or something like that. It would be quite simple (upper = projector, lower = avant). That solution would also work with BL8000 then.

Not too much hassle.

Otherwise I should probably just feed audio and picture mute the avant so I get the front speakers as well.

I just like being geeky and try all funny solutions :-)

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tournedos replied on Wed, Sep 30 2015 1:49 PM

I didn't bother checking BL9 in particular, but generally in Beolabs that have two PL sockets, both of them are simply wired in parallel (think of it as a built-in Y cable adapter). So there are no functional nor electrical difference between them.

So you would be connecting the line level audio outputs of both systems together, but probably more significantly, all the control signals as well ("power on" etc). This might even damage something.

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Michael:

Otherwise I should probably just feed audio and picture mute the avant so I get the front speakers as well.

I just like being geeky and try all funny solutions :-)

If you are talking 'the new Avant', you have lots of speaker group to configure for what ever you want your connected speakers to do/to be.

The guys in Struer are also 'geeky' and have prepared the audioengine in the Avant for all kinds of  'funny solutions'.

What is it exactly, that you want to do/be able to do in your setup?
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You will end up with diminished volume and not get the intended result. 

Ah, you know... A little B&O here, a little there 

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Michael replied on Wed, Sep 30 2015 2:20 PM

Yes the new Avant. And yes I know I can do a lot of speaker groups (which I already have). But I want to use the speakers with the Avant turned off. For example with a projector, but perhaps that won't even be an issue (if I dont buy one). 

I bought a new apartment about a week ago and I will get the keys in december, so I am trying to consider my choices. The worst thing is that the new place doesn't have DVB-C or DVB-T, only Fiber TV that requires a special STB from swedish ISP Telia. I might try an DVB-T antenna but we'll see.

I am also considering Altona HDMI matrix solutions to put everything neat and tidy in a closet. Including all kinds of TV games etc. *dreaming* haha.  

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Howzit replied on Wed, Aug 1 2018 10:40 PM

I just wanted to resurrect this instead of starting a new thread...

 

I have a set of BL9s I would like to connect to a Beosound 9000, in conjunction with another source. I was using a little Yamaha DAC/Streaming music player before that.

I would like to connect both sources to the BL9s.

On the one hand, I could just feed the Yamaha streaming music player into the AUX IN on the BS9000. However, I would loose the ability to just turn on (trigger) BL9 speakers (through the BS9000) from my phone when i walk through the door after a hard day at work.

It seems like the last time it was discussed (and I imagine many other times), there were some recommendations... but Im somewhat unclear if there is a simple answer as to weather one can connect two sources to a set of BL9s without having to purchase an entire Beocenter unit.

After a couple of years since this discussion, any easy way this can be done?

 

 

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chucky replied on Thu, Aug 2 2018 5:25 AM
I use a sollution of oneremote.dk, works fine 1 pl in 2 out. No cracklin noises. It is cheaper then Almando and the feedback of Almando when you do have a problem is not really good on Beoworld.

I did have contact with Oneremote and they are responsive, which helps.

I am really interested on the speaker group solution from MM for the Kitchen, it could save me a beosound core as I have a living and and am open kitchen, I tend to run speakers in the living and the kitchen on the same time but have a core in the living and an Essence in the kitchen.

Won”t the downside not be that I need to loose the IR Eye in the kitchen?

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Do you have two BeoLab 5 connected as front speaker on a BeoVision TV  Avant, and
would be able to stream music from, for example, a Naserver or another analog stereo
audio source for the same set of BeoLab 5 - directly without the TV set be turned on.

OneRemote type: 30017744

https://shop.oneremote.dk/en/product/oneremote-powerlink-speaker-adaptor/'

PDF Manual.

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Hi,

One thing I would stress is that the twin Powerlink sockets on many Beolab speakers should not be used to connect multiple sources directly to the speakers (the only exceptions are Beolabs 5, 50 and 90, which can accept multiple connections).  For all other speakers, you will have major sound problems (including loss of volume, buzzing, distortion, noise, thuds and pops through the speakers, etc) if you try to connect two devices to the speakers.

The simplest option is to connect the speakers to one source and then link the second source to a spare input of the main source so that it can indirectly share the speakers.  This can take a bit of planning, but it will give the best sound quality and ease of use.

I haven't tried the switching box that Peter Pan mentioned, but I note the comments in the thread above that this has been reported to caused unwanted noises through the speakers.

I am always happy to help with individual setup advice on request.

Kind regards, Steve.

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Peter Pan replied on Thu, Aug 2 2018 11:37 AM

Hallo Steve

PDF Manual.

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Note there are 2 versions.

OneRemote Powerlink Switch

https://shop.oneremote.dk/en/product/oneremote-powerlink-switch/

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Thanks Peter Pan!

I haven't tried this device, but I would be interested to hear from other Beoworlders who have used it.

Kind regards, Steve.

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