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Hi,
I bought set of BeoLab 5000 and Beomaster 5000. All working and all in not bad condition.
Can you give me some advices to this ?? What I should check first, what I should replace ??
BeO is like a good wine - the older the better...
Thanks, Merry Christmas to everyone.
Hi Marcin.
It looks wonderful, congratulations with that set up.
Henrik.
If you want to go all the way, I suggest you follow this thread:
https://archivedforum2.beoworld.org/forums/t/38769.aspx
Martin
Jacques
Thanks @Dillen I read it. I should have my set in home after New Year and I take a photo what is inside. Visually BeoLab front panel looks worst than Beomaster but I found one more Beolab and mayby I will buy it to I dont affraid about wooden work, I trained much on my Beovox.
Refurbished front panels are available from Classis Audio in Struer, and I can supply new slider windows.
Oooo It's good news.
We will see next week. First I need this set at home.. but I know where I can find help
I still wait for my x-mas present but I read service and user manuals like good books
@chartz you told about Beocord 2400, I found this :
You think that it will be ok ??
I love the cassette Beocord 5000 (I’ve got two) but I was referring to the period open-reel Beocord 2400!
I came home today and a surprise awaits me ... Santa has left a present for me (a little late, I know)
What is inside ?? ... hmmmm
Oooooo It's Beolab and Beomaster
I plugged it in and it didn't explode ... success !!! Now I need to prepare audio cable and I will be report.
Stay tuned :)
Welcome to Beolab 5000 club. Very nice, I can imagine your excitement!
For irritation, here you can find contemprary manuals for Beosystem 5000 (1968):
http://beolab.dk/beolab-uk.php?page=contend/doc
Thank's, Can you tel me something about this "Serie 10" on Beolab and "Serie 01" on Beomaster ?? It's like first and late series ??
Look here - https://archivedforum2.beoworld.org/forums/p/6267/56248.aspx#56248
Peter
Frede Kristensen (Classic audio here on forum) is master in Beosystem 5000, he has a lot of info on his site:
http://beolab.dk/teknik/bm-typer.pdf
http://beolab.dk/teknik/qty.pdf
I send my beolab 5000 to him for restoration (superior satisfaction), you will finde here in forum a lot about him and his work.
Thanks Peter.
I'm glad that my Beomaster is from 1967. They start from 15445 and I have 15569, it means that my have number 124 :) It is in very good visual condition, much better than my Beolab.
I connected it to my Beovox M70 ( now brown textile looks awesome with this set ) and sound... o fu*k I'm in heaven !!!
Very nice!
Both Beosystems 5000, next to each other.
It's looks better than half year ago:
It sounds awesome... and the first question, I set the volume levels on Beolab inputs. The tuner input is at a minimum and the switch is at LOW. However, the tuner sounds very loud compared to the AUX and Phono inputs (I know that the TUNER adjusts in the opposite direction than PHONO). Is it normal ?? or I do something wrong ??
Loud means that I listening radio normaly on LEVEL 2, over 6 I think that is not loud but over-steering.
Martynka: Thanks Peter. I'm glad that my Beomaster is from 1967. They start from 15445 and I have 15569, it means that my have number 124 :) It is in very good visual condition, much better than my Beolab.
You can't tell it like that, because serial numbers are given across the product line.15445 apparently is a Beomaster 5000,15446 could also be a Beomaster 5000 but it could just as well be a Beomaster 1000, a TV or a tape recorder or something else.
- But I suppose that only puts your Beomaster closer to the production start.
Ooooo It's nice news.
Martynka: It sounds awesome... and the first question, I set the volume levels on Beolab inputs. The tuner input is at a minimum and the switch is at LOW. However, the tuner sounds very loud compared to the AUX and Phono inputs (I know that the TUNER adjusts in the opposite direction than PHONO). Is it normal ?? or I do something wrong ?? Loud means that I listening radio normaly on LEVEL 2, over 6 I think that is not loud but over-steering.
I have it, In Beomaster is 6 stage output level. Now is ok.
Due to Beolab 5000 manual should imput for Beomaster 5000 be at High level.
See page 8.
http://www.beolab.dk/book/bl5000-uk.html#page/10
Thanks, I read it few times but I don't saw it :) I changed it to HIGH,
Marcin
I pluged Beogram 5000 with Shibata MMC1 to My Beolab. Sounds good but not looks good. I can take Beogram 3000 ( 5228, 5231 ) with SP12 or Beogram 1800 with SP10 ( 5213 ). It looks better with Beolab but does it sound good?
There are variety of decks that go well with the set up. For style, though not completely the right period, a Beogram 4000 has the same devil may care attitude to economics and dedication to engineering. A very good sounding deck with very good vibration resistance. The two decks designed for the job though are the Beogram 3000 types 5210 and 5211. I have owned both and the 5210 is the pinnacle. It is a Thorens TD124 MkII with a B&O ST/L arm and SP9 cartridge. Or you can go the whole hog and get the ST/P arm ( 12") and in my case a bespoke SP cartridge.
These decks seem to have a far more extended and rich bass and are also wonderfully engineered. The blue colour on this one was applied by Frede and there are others in black or red in the hands of collectors.
The 5211 is not as well known but sounds good but was a UK and Netherlands model, I believe for marketing reasons.
Thanks Peter. I know about Beogram 3000 (Thorens TD 124) and maybe next X-mas :)
I ask about Beogram 3000 (5228, 5231, 5241) or 1800 because I can have it allmost for free but I don't know does it sound good with SP12
It is not bad - I don't think the platter is great - the BG1800 has the advantage there. I had one with an SP12 but it never became a favourite. The BG4000 is probably the best audio match with the better suspension but these days they are pricey - and very complicated to fix!
I know about a price and now I want something cheap. I can have this Beogram 1800:
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and maybe it is good choice.
I bought it:
https://archivedforum2.beoworld.org/forums/t/40079.aspx
... and for me this set looks awesome
I opened Beomaster and Beolab.
Beomaster looks like straight from BeO factory, everything clean without rust, with paper scheme like new. I can not belive that has over 50 years.
I think that I will only replace capacitors and clean all potentiometers.
Beolab looks little worst:
and someone was here:
One RCA37740 and one RCA38647 transistors were replaced by modern equivalent.
Yesterday, before I open it, I put rosewood wooden putty on all scratches.
Today I use sand paper and steel wool and I grinded it.
I'm ready to put few layer of rosewood oil.
I finished:
it's the same colour like my Beovox M70.
Tomorrow I will apply bee wax and polish to get a uniform and velvety surface.
Because I almost finished my Beovox 5702 and I have few meters from Beolab to the speakers, I m.ade new speaker wires. In Beolab I have only 2 pin DIN slots and I decided to change it with low invasion.
Because inside Beolab, wires from switch Speaker 1, Speaker 2 are very, very thin I soldering wires to capacitors out.
Now I have fully functional original DIN ports and one independent Banana terminal.
And it looks not bad
All changes can be removed without Beolab damage and it will be looks like original.
Yes, I know, strange things come to mind during quarantine... but I expect more powerful sound because originally full power goes through wires like from headphones.