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BeoVision 11 dimming problem

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Beoberg Posted: Mon, Jan 6 2014 4:33 PM

Hi guys,

I am a mostly happy owner of the BV11 - 40. However, I have one big complaint and that is regarding the dynamic contrast adjustment. Lately I have experienced this a lot when watching movies. Especially faces loose their detail and become almost all black in close ups with white background. When the shot is first shown the picture is great with perfect detail and then after one second the awful dimming sets in and blackens half the face Sad Also during scenes where for example two people are talking and they are each shot with different backgrounds the dimming up and down from the dynamic contrast when the picture shifts between the two shots is almost like a joke. I think I have tried all kinds of different settings in the TV including the ones in the service menu but without any luck of turning this dimming off. What settings do you guys use on your BV11 or V1?

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Frederik

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BeoGreg replied on Tue, Jan 7 2014 8:37 AM

There definitely should be a picture guide like the sound guide for the BV11/V1.

After two weeks of ownership and two weeks of settings I still can't find the perfect one for my needs, the picture is two dark in a dark room and the contrast adjustment is too visible.

I choose movie mode for all my video sources (TV, DTV, PS3, Youtube) after initially choosing dynamic mode.

Brightness and contrast are on 35/34 instead of 32 (in both ordinary settings and advanced settings) which gives a brighter picture without loosing details.

In the service menu contrast dimming is set on 2 instead of the standard 3 (out of 4) and you clearly see that there's less contrast adjustment on dark scenes.

Contrast dimming switched off in the same menu gives a much brighter and natural picture but the blacks are grey.

There is a huge difference between "off" and "4" in the settings, try it in a total dark room.

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It's a joke in a dark room isn't it? I know the Plasma massive will scoff and rightly so, but having even a dim corner lamp on helps hugely.

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BeoGreg replied on Tue, Jan 7 2014 9:59 AM

Chris Townsend:
It's a joke in a dark room isn't it?

I was saying that to see the differences between "off" and "4" in the local dimming set up (service menu) and choose the set up you prefer, you'd better be in a dark room.

It's the case for me, it's very difficult to set up a Tv in a bright room.

Like I said before, and I second you, BV11 needs some light to work properly (and that's a "problem" for me only watching Tv very late at night and enjoying nearly dark rooms for it).

My corner lamp (with LC2) is one dot higher with BV11 than it was with BV10.

 

 

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moxxey replied on Tue, Jan 7 2014 11:35 AM

Chris Townsend:
It's a joke in a dark room isn't it? 

I noticed that this morning. Was very dark at 7am, BBC breakfast was on and the BV11 couldn't cope! Constantly changes the backlighting, every few seconds. It's also very obvious, too. If it was a quicker refresh, you wouldn't notice the change.

I'm happy with my BV11 picture though, dark room aside. I have no problems at all.

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I have just bought this for my 8-32 which is in our bedroom....

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TV-BACK-LIGHT-LED-STRIP-SET-RGB-PLASMA-TV-LIGHTS-BLUE-STRIPS-4-x-50CM-KIT/271026112119?rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222002%26algo%3DSIC.FIT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D74%26meid%3D3949381491454234061%26pid%3D100005%26prg%3D1048%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D271026111534%26

Hope that link works. Without turning my bedroom into Blackpool, I have stuck the strips horizontally on the top and bottom. It allows me to set a blue backlight of varying strengths to negate the issues we get because of its CFL backlighting. A different issue but a similar solution, and it's very effective. Helps darken the picture and negate the grey bars when viewing a film in a letterbox format.

Of course if I nip out whilst the kids are in there watching a film, by the time I get back, they have used the remote and set the lights to strobing different colours like a nightclub :-/

I got the idea from reading about lighting options for LCD and Plasma, and of course the Phillips TVs that use back lighting for different moods etc.

No I'm not sticking them to the back of my 11, but a strategically placed lamp doesn't half help.

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Chris Townsend:

No I'm not sticking them to the back of my 11, but a strategically placed lamp doesn't half help.

 

That's a strategically placed lamp on the right of the picture...

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Perfect. I use an Ikea tower lamp made out of tobacco coloured paper.

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rob08 replied on Tue, Jan 7 2014 6:24 PM
How do you get into the Bv11 service menu?

Anybody know if B&O is working on the dimming in dark rooms problem?
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Beoberg replied on Tue, Jan 7 2014 9:29 PM

Thank you for all the replies. I will try to fiddle with the settings again.

Like many of you I prefer to watch movies in a complete dark room. However, I have a light solution similar to ambillight on the back of the BV11 that lights up the wall behind the TV. I really hope that B&O would make it possible to disable the dimming completely through an update, although I doubt they will Sad

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BeoGreg replied on Tue, Jan 7 2014 10:42 PM
rob08:

How do you get into the Bv11 service menu?

Press Tv, settings, red + go, voilà.
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SeebergDK:

Thank you for all the replies. I will try to fiddle with the settings again.

Like many of you I prefer to watch movies in a complete dark room. However, I have a light solution similar to ambillight on the back of the BV11 that lights up the wall behind the TV. I really hope that B&O would make it possible to disable the dimming completely through an update, although I doubt they will

This is what I have done for my 8-32. It's very effective, although it takes a bit of getting used to if your precious about the cosmetic image of your room. Essentially it resembles the film set of Weird Science!

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rob08 replied on Wed, Jan 8 2014 7:16 PM
Thanks, but I can't seem to get it working. With red so you mean the red button near the arrow pad and go is that the joystick?

Never mind. I got it working. Thanks!
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BeoGreg replied on Thu, Jan 9 2014 8:24 AM
rob08:

Thanks, but I can't seem to get it working. With red so you mean the red button near the arrow pad and go is that the joystick?

Yes it´s red arrow and joystick but you must have the set-up (configuration) list on the left off the screen (channels, sound, picture...).
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