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My understanding is, and correct me if I am wrong, that if I get an Essence or Moment and and a converter, my existing Beovisions will show up in the BeoMusic app and I can select music to be played through speakers connected to the MasterLinked tvs via the app.
If I am correct, would the same functionality be obtained by purchasing the converter and a Beoplay A6 or A8? I thought I read somewhere that the answer would be yes, but I can not find where I read that.
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Razlaw:My understanding is, and correct me if I am wrong, that if I get an Essence or Moment and and a converter, my existing Beovisions will show up in the BeoMusic app and I can select music to be played through speakers connected to the MasterLinked tvs via the app. If I am correct, would the same functionality be obtained by purchasing the converter and a Beoplay A6 or A8? I thought I read somewhere that the answer would be yes, but I can not find where I read that.
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A6 is a network link multi room product working in exactly the same was as the BeoPlay A9 mark 2.
The A8 is NOT multi room compliant.
Regards
Opman
Opman: A6 is a network link multi room product working in exactly the same was as the BeoPlay A9 mark 2. The A8 is NOT multi room compliant. Regards Opman
I meant to say A9 not A8. Sorry
elephant:And as neither the A6 nor the A8 use ML I don't see how the BLC would help, or am I not understanding your idea / aim ?
I see the pictures on the B and O web page of the Beo Music App showing icons for MasterLink Products such as Beosound 9000. I am wanting to be able to use the App and select music for individual MasterLink rooms. I thought with a Moment or Essence I would be able to do that. Was Wondering if the A6 or A9 mkII would allow the same.
I thought I read somewhere, but can not find it now, that what was needed for the multi room was one NetLink product and the converter.
What I want to be able to do is use the BeoMusic App to select what music is playing, ideally on my stand alone V1, and on my MasterLinked 7-55 and 10-40. Also, I will probably be buying an A6 for one of my bathrooms.
When I open up the Beo Music App, which I can not use as I do not have the correct products, it says things such as select music that is desired and then share with other B and O products in house. In one of the pictures of the app, it has an icon in one of the rooms for a Beosound 9000. So I thought that was indicating with the app, music could be selected via the app, and then played through, for instance, the 9000. It then has a picture of the Apple Watch and says it can be used to switch off all products in the house when leaving. I assumed that meant through the app, "all" products could be turned off from the app, not just newer Net Link products.
At the end of the app description it says it requires the Essence, Moment, A6 or A9.
It does not seem to indicate in any way that the functionality of the app is different if a different one of those four products is selected.
If that is the case, there would seem to be no sense in purchasing both an Essence and an A6.
Razlaw:I see the pictures on the B and O web page of the Beo Music App showing icons for MasterLink Products such as Beosound 9000. I am wanting to be able to use the App and select music for individual MasterLink rooms. I thought with a Moment or Essence I would be able to do that. Was Wondering if the A6 or A9 mkII would allow the same. I thought I read somewhere, but can not find it now, that what was needed for the multi room was one NetLink product and the converter.
mjmedlo: Razlaw: I see the pictures on the B and O web page of the Beo Music App showing icons for MasterLink Products such as Beosound 9000. I am wanting to be able to use the App and select music for individual MasterLink rooms. I thought with a Moment or Essence I would be able to do that. Was Wondering if the A6 or A9 mkII would allow the same. I thought I read somewhere, but can not find it now, that what was needed for the multi room was one NetLink product and the converter. I talked to dealer from he said, sounded like I only needed one converter. Second dealer I talked to is looking in to how many converters I would need. Very confusing to me. I think you'd need a converter for every product.
Razlaw: I see the pictures on the B and O web page of the Beo Music App showing icons for MasterLink Products such as Beosound 9000. I am wanting to be able to use the App and select music for individual MasterLink rooms. I thought with a Moment or Essence I would be able to do that. Was Wondering if the A6 or A9 mkII would allow the same. I thought I read somewhere, but can not find it now, that what was needed for the multi room was one NetLink product and the converter.
I talked to dealer from he said, sounded like I only needed one converter. Second dealer I talked to is looking in to how many converters I would need.
Very confusing to me.
I think you'd need a converter for every product.
mjmedlo: Razlaw: I see the pictures on the B and O web page of the Beo Music App showing icons for MasterLink Products such as Beosound 9000. I am wanting to be able to use the App and select music for individual MasterLink rooms. I thought with a Moment or Essence I would be able to do that. Was Wondering if the A6 or A9 mkII would allow the same. I thought I read somewhere, but can not find it now, that what was needed for the multi room was one NetLink product and the converter. I think you'd need a converter for every product.
Sorry for a duplicate post. Last post did not turn out right and can not get edit function to work.
One dealer I spoke with made it sound like I would only need one converter. Second dealer, who I intend to purchase from, is looking in to how many converters I would need. All very confusing to me.
Razlaw:I see the pictures on the B and O web page of the Beo Music App showing icons for MasterLink Products such as Beosound 9000.
Razlaw:At the end of the app description it says it requires the Essence, Moment, A6 or A9. It does not seem to indicate in any way that the functionality of the app is different if a different one of those four products is selected.If that is the case, there would seem to be no sense in purchasing both an Essence and an A6.
mjmedlo:I think you'd need a converter for every product.
Razlaw:It then has a picture of the Apple Watch and says it can be used to switch off all products in the house when leaving. I assumed that meant through the app, "all" products could be turned off from the app, not just newer Net Link products
elephant: mjmedlo: I think you'd need a converter for every product. My configuration is different ... In my universe I have the BLC being a bridge between the two worlds. On the ML side there is a minimum of 3 products and potentially 5 (plus two BeoLink wireless rooms) and so having multiple BLCs would be little gain for the large expense.
mjmedlo: I think you'd need a converter for every product.
My configuration is different ... In my universe I have the BLC being a bridge between the two worlds. On the ML side there is a minimum of 3 products and potentially 5 (plus two BeoLink wireless rooms) and so having multiple BLCs would be little gain for the large expense.
What you describe is exactly what I have so wouldn't I just need one converter? On my ML side I have three products, BV7-55, BV10-40, and BS5.
On the other side would be one new NL product, Moment, Essence, or A6.
Razlaw:What you describe is exactly what I have so wouldn't I just need one converter? On my ML side I have three products, BV7-55, BV10-40, and BS5. On the other side would be one new NL product, Moment, Essence, or A6.
elephant:Please appreciate my understanding of these configurations is some what limited. After all it has only been two weeks since I got it going. Most times I have to do a test before offering an opinion. TEST I just tried a looong standby push on the Beo4 into the ML network. That command did not get through the BLC to power off the Essence. NEXT TEST I tried to "join" the Essence to a quiesced ML network to see if the BV woke up. It did not. My impression/ analogy, is that one must first wake-up the BV with a command that causes the BV to join the BLC NL Essence e.g. N-RADIO set to start TuneIn. After that I have successfully used BeoMusic App to play alternate sources and/or stations and tracks on the BV. BeoNut since '75
mjmedlo:In order to get ML side online.. You'll need to name sources in the ML/NL converter to be able to 'join' those sources from the NL.
I.E. if your converter only controls a beolab 3500. . .instead of the converter "name for apps" being
BLC. . .change it to Beolab 3500.
If you're ML product is a beosound 9000. . .call it Beosound 9000 instead of BLC;
just makes it easier to work the app
mjmedlo: Razlaw: What you describe is exactly what I have so wouldn't I just need one converter? On my ML side I have three products, BV7-55, BV10-40, and BS5. On the other side would be one new NL product, Moment, Essence, or A6. You need 3 converters Connected to each individual product. You can name them whatever you want in the program and use the icons.
Razlaw: What you describe is exactly what I have so wouldn't I just need one converter? On my ML side I have three products, BV7-55, BV10-40, and BS5. On the other side would be one new NL product, Moment, Essence, or A6.
You need 3 converters
Connected to each individual product.
You can name them whatever you want in the program and use the icons.
You only need 1 converter to actually get the audio onto the ML side. You'll need 3 converters if you want each ML product to show up on the app.
Ah, you know... A little B&O here, a little there
Razlaw:Thanks! That makes sense. Answer very much appreciated. So with one converter, and a Moment, I would be able to use the Moment's touch screen to select what I want to listen to in each master linked room? And with the app I could also select what music to listen to? I just would not be able to differentiate between rooms and pick one room or the other. Basically it would work like my Beosound 5 does, but with more ability to select music without walking over to the Beosound 5 as I currently do? Thanks!
So with one converter, and a Moment, I would be able to use the Moment's touch screen to select what I want to listen to in each master linked room? And with the app I could also select what music to listen to? I just would not be able to differentiate between rooms and pick one room or the other.
Basically it would work like my Beosound 5 does, but with more ability to select music without walking over to the Beosound 5 as I currently do?
Thanks!
Not quite. In order to do what you are asking from the Moment or the app you will need 3 x converters to your ML products. From there you can actually see them in the app or trigger the join function (which is simply a Beo 4 command to that input i.e. V.mem).
If using one NL converter, In the NL converter you setup what command you would like the ML side to see as the TuneIn or Deezer. From there you need to go into each room then turn on the product with that command. At that point you can listen in to what is playing on the NL side.
Razlaw:Perhaps you can answer this question as well? I think I read somewhere in the forum, but can not find it now, that with NetLink there is no audio master. Is this correct? Specifically I have never been able to get my Beosound 5 and Beosound 3000 to work together on my Masterlink system. I have disconnected the 3000. If I purchase a Moment or Essence, along with a NetLink converter, would I be able to reconnect the 3000 and have access to the Moment or Essence, the 5 and the 3000 through the system with no audio master? #1 - Correct. NL doesn't work on the master principal #2 - You should be able to use your 3000 with the BS5. Set the BS5 to no master mode. Then label the inputs N.Music and N. Radio and you should then be able to pull over the audio. You may have a BS3000 that may need to update the SW to 2.0 if it doesn't except those commands. #3 - Yes, sort of. Your BS3000/BS5 would still be a master to the ML side. The NL side doesn't care about what is on the ML side as you are in essence simply porting over the audio to an open ML input. Again, no master on NL side. Everything shares and talks the same. Thanks!
Specifically I have never been able to get my Beosound 5 and Beosound 3000 to work together on my Masterlink system. I have disconnected the 3000.
If I purchase a Moment or Essence, along with a NetLink converter, would I be able to reconnect the 3000 and have access to the Moment or Essence, the 5 and the 3000 through the system with no audio master?
#1 - Correct. NL doesn't work on the master principal
#2 - You should be able to use your 3000 with the BS5. Set the BS5 to no master mode. Then label the inputs N.Music and N. Radio and you should then be able to pull over the audio. You may have a BS3000 that may need to update the SW to 2.0 if it doesn't except those commands.
#3 - Yes, sort of. Your BS3000/BS5 would still be a master to the ML side. The NL side doesn't care about what is on the ML side as you are in essence simply porting over the audio to an open ML input. Again, no master on NL side. Everything shares and talks the same.
Razlaw: Very much wish the Moment had Spotify.
Very much wish the Moment had Spotify.
The only way to have Spotify Connect on the Moment, is to add a Gramofon to the line-in of it.
MM
There is a tv - and there is a BV
I have a moment in the US;
it has Deezer. FYI.
Deezer is pretty fantastic so far.
I have maintained both accounts, spotify and Deezer.
I like spotify in my vehicle but Deezer at home is much better as one can "join"
However, it's simple to connect an Essence to the BS5 and stream spotify as an analog source.
Good luck!
Razlaw:Thank you very much. I think I understand. Now to decide if I want to venture into Deezer instead of Spotify as I currently am using. Very much wish the Moment had Spotify. Particularly as I contacted Deezer customer support to ask a question and they maintain Deezer is not available on the Moment in the US, and thus are very unhelpful.
Very much wish the Moment had Spotify. Particularly as I contacted Deezer customer support to ask a question and they maintain Deezer is not available on the Moment in the US, and thus are very unhelpful.
as MJMedlo says Deezer is indeed working in the US on the Moment. There is a complimentary 1 year subscription card included in the package. Enjoy!
There are playlist exporters you can use if you are worried about having to recreate those things again.
I am still finding this confusing. BeoMegaMan, would you mind answering another question?
If I get a Moment and one converter, (BS5, BV7, BV10 currently connected by Masterlink) and I touch the wood to start the Moment, what if anything will happen?
Sound in one room? Both rooms? Nothing? Will I need to turn system n in one of the rooms with the Beo 4 and join the Moment so a two step process?
Would it be the same with an Essence?
Thank you very much in advance.
The filter is blocking posts again. My apologies but I will try posting the post I tried to make, one sentence at a time. Maybe that will allow me to post or allow me to see what sentence is the problem.
Would it be the same with an Essence?Thank you very much in advance.
My last post(s) had the word Essence in them and Thank you. Those must be the offending words (LOL) as that is the part I could not get to post. Don't know if this work.
Would operation be the same with the other NL sound system?
Thanks
Razlaw:Sound in one room? Both rooms? Nothing? Will I need to turn system n in one of the rooms with the Beo 4 and join the Moment so a two step process?
Razlaw:My last post(s) had the word Essence in them and Thank you. Those must be the offending words (LOL) as that is the part I could not get to post. Don't know if this work. Would operation be the same with the other NL sound system? Thanks