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Spotify now integrated into V1, BV11 and BV12NG

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MartinW Posted: Fri, Oct 25 2013 6:55 PM
Hi all,

Exciting news - if you have a V1, BV11, BV12NG or BeoSystem 4, there is a software update you can download now to get Spotify integrated straight on to the TV. It shows in the menu as a source - and you can assign any button to it on the remote, such as CD.

If someone can explain how I can upload a picture onto BeoWorld off my iPhone, I will post pics :)
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Razlaw replied on Fri, Oct 25 2013 8:42 PM

Thanks for the info! Would like to see a picture but I am also not sure how to post a picture from a phone.

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This is great news - if Spotify would go lossless it would be perfect.

How about the BeoRemote-app? Is that/will that be updated too - to get navigation direct within the app?

 

One way of posting pictures is to add it when pushing the 'Reply' button (not the 'Quick Reply').

But you must get the photos to your Pc/mac first - easiest way is using a cloudservice.

If an Android phone all you need is a usb-cable to the pc.

 

There are cloudservices that create an ip-adress for a picture.

This one you then would have to put in between two IMG's with [...] around them - the ... stands for IMG

Sorry, only way ro descibe it - otherweise it won't show in the post

Lke this:


The adress of the picture was: http://maloki.se/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/spotify.png

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MartinW replied on Fri, Oct 25 2013 11:37 PM
I can confirm that the app does work with Spotify - it shows as a source under 'Media'.

I couldn't get it to bring up the keyboard though - that would be a nice feature.
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Thanks Martin,

but how can you navigate then?

Old story with creating 'playlists' on another device/in the Spotify-app first, then???

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DGRouge replied on Sat, Oct 26 2013 12:32 AM

You can navigate using the Beo4 or the RemoteApp. Playlists are avaiable butyou can also search artists, songs etc. When searching a small keyboard pops up, where you have to punch in the letters individually using the navigation buttons. The RemoteApp does not give you a keyboard for that. Other than this it works extremely well,very responsive application with a decent layout - a nice addition indeed.

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MartinW replied on Sat, Oct 26 2013 12:38 AM
DGRouge:

You can navigate using the Beo4 or the RemoteApp. Playlists are avaiable butyou can also search artists, songs etc. When searching a small keyboard pops up, where you have to punch in the letters individually using the navigation buttons. The RemoteApp does not give you a keyboard for that. Other than this it works extremely well,very responsive application with a decent layout - a nice addition indeed.

Like he said :)

I made a Beo6 config that also gives easy access to speaker groups and sound settings.
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jans replied on Sat, Oct 26 2013 8:05 AM
This is exciting news!

I immediately checked my BV1. The upgrade has been done but I can't find the Spotify source. Do you need a key to activate this? Or should the 'webmedia' function be activated already?

Any feedback is much appreciated.

I also noted that the section with 'usefull Information' à chapter on Wireless speakers has been added.
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DGRouge replied on Sat, Oct 26 2013 8:25 AM
Try pushing 'CD' on the Beo4.
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jans replied on Sat, Oct 26 2013 8:29 AM
I only have Beo5 so I can't try it. Shouldn't Spotify show up in the sources menu?

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Mine works with the Beo 4 using CD, but my access to "list" functions so i can change the sound function to music, or mute the screen are not there.

If you have Apple TV this App, just like Youtube is largely irrelevant and nowhere as easy to use as using a Mini Ipad etc. 

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DGRouge replied on Sat, Oct 26 2013 9:09 AM

On my BV11 the "SPOTIFY" has been added under the Source List - two spots under WEBMEDIA and having CD assigned to it.

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olvisab replied on Sat, Oct 26 2013 9:26 AM

Hi

is a premium account mandatory for using it ?

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DGRouge replied on Sat, Oct 26 2013 9:38 AM

yes, according to the software update description you must have the premium account.

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Of cource it is nice to have Spotify as a service direct in the new BV's - because you don't need an iDevice and the ATV-box (or the BS/BM5).

Although many V1/BV11-owners have the ATV, not all have an iPad.

But navigating with the Beo4 in the keyboard (just like in the menu of the ATV) isn't the easiest way - especially if you are someone who mostly search for artists and/or albums rather than choosing an avaible playlist.

Untill a descent searchfunction integrated in the BeoRemote-app will come, I would prefer to use the Spotify-app airplaying to a screen-muted BV/ATV. Seems a bit more comfortable.

A tip for those who have lost their iPad to their wifes.

Christmas is coming....buy her one as a present 💏

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It's always easy to spend others money, but it's well worth the £10 per month. I haven't bought a CD or used iTunes since.

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Having two or more NL-BV's with Spotify running on one of them would mean that you can hear the same on the NL-BV/BV's in the other room(s)???

Am I right?

Anyone with two NL-BV's can confirm this?

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Raeuber replied on Sat, Oct 26 2013 10:25 AM
To integrate Spotify into Beovisions is a real good solution. Probably no need for an additional audio system for many customers anymore.

I checked Spotify a few weeks ago on my IPad, streaming music via Airplay to my ATV. At first I was very impressed with the sound quality. Although it's not lossless I couldn't hear any difference compared to a CD in my BS 9000.

But then I searched for some of my favourite music and couldn't find Led Zeppelin, The Beatles and albums of other artists. That's why Spotify is no option for ME (but probably for many others).

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Hi Räuber,

Try WiMP Hifi. Lots of Zeppelin there - and in lossless quality.

WiMP is not supported by B&O, but it doesn't matter to you, as you would NEVER buy a new B&O-tv Stick out tongue

And it is losless quality.

Beatles is a problem, I know - but getting WiMP (or Spotify) does not mean that you have to get rid of your beloved CD's.

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hfat replied on Sat, Oct 26 2013 11:11 AM
I would like to ask one question before I update my V1. As I already use the source CD can someone tell if spotify is fixed to CD or can spotify be assigned a different audio source.

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DGRouge replied on Sat, Oct 26 2013 11:14 AM

Yep - it can be assigned to whatever sources/buttons you have available.

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Raeuber replied on Sat, Oct 26 2013 11:15 AM
Thanks for the info, MM.

Of course I would buy a Beovision in future: with 4K, OLED and NO WOOD, but I know I have to wait at least until 2030 for such a Beovision.

At the moment I have still problems with my BV 7-40 (two years old now). Nobody is able to repair this BV, faulty from day one. I think I have to contact a lawyer, because I believe my dealer wants to wait until my BV is out of warranty.

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Whats wrong with it?

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Raeuber replied on Sat, Oct 26 2013 11:27 AM
Tonker:

Whats wrong with it?

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manitou replied on Sat, Oct 26 2013 11:54 AM

hello,

does spotify in the bv 11 support cd covers on my beo 6?

i do have the configtool 6.00, is there a newer one and where may i get get it?

what do i have to assign in to my beo 6?

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BeoBoy68 replied on Sat, Oct 26 2013 1:06 PM
I suggest many weeks ago a BeoPad. Any info, to control Spotify with a new Beo remote control ?
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MartinW replied on Sat, Oct 26 2013 1:39 PM
manitou:

hello,

does spotify in the bv 11 support cd covers on my beo 6?

i do have the configtool 6.00, is there a newer one and where may i get get it?

what do i have to assign in to my beo 6?

grüße

Hi, no its not two way, all the operations and covers are clearly shown on the TV screen though.
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MartinW replied on Sat, Oct 26 2013 1:40 PM
No new remote in the immediate future. Not really a need for a BeoPad - just an iPad with a really good app. Why reinvent the wheel?
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.....Unless you could hang it (or more of them in different rooms) on the wall and Beo4-control some of the basic functions as well.

Or how about a BeoPad with an 'Immaculate Wireless Sound transmitter' built in?

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Just tried it with the Beo 6 and there is no way to write in search. Mind you it doesn't change channels on the TV so maybe I'm expecting a bit to much.

Get an Apple TV and you'll live longer!

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Mace replied on Sat, Oct 26 2013 4:08 PM

What are the chances of this coming to the playmaker? Since it's already possible on the beoplay A9?

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DoubleU replied on Sat, Oct 26 2013 4:48 PM

Mace:

What are the chances of this coming to the playmaker? Since it's already possible on the beoplay A9?

PlayMaker as well as A9, both use the Airplay utility for now. For the A9 there soon will be Spotify Connect, later this year. Spotify Connect looks great. No more Airplay (with possible dropouts), but the wifi devices are only used as a controller.

 

On topic: I don’t think the Spotify API on smart TV’s do support an external keyboard. Other brands like Samsung have the same problem. So it looks like Spotify is limited to the on-screen keyboard which is not efficient enough to search.

But if you can live with managing your playlists on a PC/Mac and use it on the Beovisions this is a nice upgrade. If you don’t follow Chris’s advice and get some extra hardware like Sonos, Apple TV, PlayMaker etc..

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If you share speakers then yes you can have multiple NLBV's playing the same spotify. Or Playmaker to NL converter on the network will do the same if your looking for a more proper way of doing it.  

Ah, you know... A little B&O here, a little there 

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Thanks for the answer.

What would be the command(s) if you want to hear the Spotfy playing on the BV on another on the NL as well?

On Beo4 and on BeoRemote?

Actually I was asking about a pure NL-setup (with no converter involved).

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Millemissen:

Actually I was asking about a pure NL-setup (with no converter involved).

MM

You can do it with no converter, by sharing the speakers in the source list. No dedicated button for it though as those sources are only available when they are On and on the network. If your purely listening you can then P.Mute the screen and listen only. 

Ah, you know... A little B&O here, a little there 

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It seems a bit complicated (if you are used to the ML-way).

Your tip to use the converter/line-in/Playmaker would be far more convenient....

Even my wife could do that - which is the ultimate test!

....if you have a converter in your setup Unsure

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Millemissen:

It seems a bit complicated (if you are used to the ML-way).

Your tip to use the converter/line-in/Playmaker would be far more convenient....

Even my wife could do that - which is the ultimate test!

....if you have a converter in your setup Unsure

MM

agreed. If you occasionally have people over, use spotify, and want a somewhat of party mode that's the cheap solution over getting a converter. 

Ah, you know... A little B&O here, a little there 

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MartinW replied on Sat, Oct 26 2013 7:25 PM
BeoMegaMan:

If you share speakers then yes you can have multiple NLBV's playing the same spotify. Or Playmaker to NL converter on the network will do the same if your looking for a more proper way of doing it.

Ah, you know... A little B&O here, a little there

Unfortunately you can't have multiple TV's playing Spotify in this way. The reason for this is that Spotify is only licenced to play digital tracks on one device at a time. To share over a network you would have to play it in analogue and distribute it that way - which is how BeoSound 5 works. Or any BeoSound with a Playmaker, Airport Express, Sonos etc plugged in to it.

Using Speaker Groups to distribute from the TV works fine although of course this is quite a restricted way to do it - fine for two adjacent open plan areas but not for around the house.

It would seem this restriction is from Spotify not B&O - presumably B&O have had to block the Network Link function for the Spotify feature to comply with Spotify's requirement.

I do understand that Sonos does this though, i don't know how they are able to do it but others are not. Technically Network Link is an ideal system for doing this so I am sure B&O would have wanted to be able to - its not a lack of technology in this case.

I still think its a terrific feature for listening to music in one room. iPad operation via Airplay is easier for searching for tracks, but for just going on to Spotify to set off a playlist I think being able to do it with your Beo4/5/6 is perfect - not having to wrestle the iPad off your wife, no music getting interrupted by calls and text messages, and best of all no Airplay drop outs, which my system is plagued by!

If I had bought a V1 a year ago I would be delighted with this added value feature for free :)
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MartinW replied on Sat, Oct 26 2013 7:29 PM
Here is the official explanation from B&O on my previous waffle...

Legal Limitation

Due to legal issues regarding digital content copy protection, Spotify does not allow for digital distribution of the sound. This means that the Spotify music service feature in the TVs can only be played in the TV speakers or the Bang & Olufsen loudspeakers connected to BeoVision 11 / BeoPlay V1 / BeoSystem 4 via wired or wireless power link. In case a customer would like the ability to distribute Spotify music to other rooms, this can still be offered by integrating BeoSound 5 as primary Spotify source, as the sound from BeoSound 5 is distributed as analogue sound, which is not restricted by any content copy protection limitations.
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and once again legal & copyright bullsh*it is preventing further innovation :-(

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