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Kiran
Born in NL; I ride ML
The BL3500 can be controlled by the BLGW, but it must have software vision 3.3 or later to forward LIGHT/CONTROL commands to the BLGW. I believe that you also must key in the correct button sequence on the BL3500 to activate LIGHT/CONTROL forwarding. A few years ago, my dealer told me that the part was no longer available to update my (2) BL3500 speakers. I found that I preferred installing Lutron RadioRa2 keypads anyway. It's challenging to remember what you've mapped to the Essence wall remote in LIGHT mode. I DO, however, use an Essence wall remote in IR mode to send RADIO and CD commands to the BL3500 to play music from my BeoSound Moment through the BL3500.
To check the software version fo the BL3500, with the BL3500 in standby press on your remote MENU, then 0, then 0 then PLAY.
Sadly, if the BL3500 is not software version 3.3, it needs a PCB replacement, which my dealer has told me is no longer available.
beojeff:I DO, however, use an Essence wall remote in IR mode to send RADIO and CD commands to the BL3500 to play music from my BeoSound Moment through the BL3500.
There's a table on the beointegration site that shows how essence remote buttons are mapped according to different modes. For audio IR purposes, you just have the following:
short press play = RADIO
long press play = CD
left and right arrow buttons advance to the next/previous track or radio station.
You can't, however, remap the buttons. This is a bit unfortunate because you usually briefly hear the RADIO source until the Essence remote detects the long-press to trigger CD. Don't get me started on my rant about how annoying it is that the RADIO/Tune-in source on B&O is soooo much louder than the other sources!
The volume wheel can be used to control the BL3500 volume. Since it's just battery-powered, I have the Essence remote on the wall such that I can reach outside of the shower to adjust the volume and move through tracks.
The table on the beointegration site will show you how to change the mode of the Essence remote. You can find it under "technical inspiration" in the knowledge base section.
hi kiran,
here you can find the ir-code mapping of the essence remote in light mode.
Download document
beoandy
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Kiran:So my understanding of the essence remote is the keys cannot be mapped to what you want them to be? In Beo4 IR mode, I can only trigger radio, CD, next, previous and volume...
In Beo4 IR mode, I can only trigger radio, CD, next, previous and volume...
That is correct. You also have standby with a short press and standby all with a long press.
If you're fortunate enough to have version 3.3 of the BL3500 to be able to transmit LIGHT/CONTROL commands to the BLGW, however, you can map the keys to trigger any macros with the Essence remote in LIGHT mode.
I know that some people have used BeoLink Actives (without speakers) in such rooms for the sole purpose of transmitting LIGHT/CONTROL commands to the BLGW.
Another solution is if you have NL/ML converters close enough to such rooms to run the NL/ML IR eye into that room.
beojeff:Another solution is if you have NL/ML converters close enough to such rooms to run the NL/ML IR eye into that room.
Kiran: beojeff: Another solution is if you have NL/ML converters close enough to such rooms to run the NL/ML IR eye into that room. This could work... I have 3 NL/ML converters in the server room so I can wire 3 IRs around the house through data points and patch them into the converters? The IRs can be placed in rooms where we chill more and where the BL3500 is not software 3.3 Do you know the maximum cable length between the NL/ML and IR?
beojeff: Another solution is if you have NL/ML converters close enough to such rooms to run the NL/ML IR eye into that room.
This could work...
I have 3 NL/ML converters in the server room so I can wire 3 IRs around the house through data points and patch them into the converters?
The IRs can be placed in rooms where we chill more and where the BL3500 is not software 3.3
Do you know the maximum cable length between the NL/ML and IR?
According to the 186 page BeoLink Handbook, Ver. 1.9, you can go up to 100 meters. Wow! You can find the BeoLink Handbook on the BeoIntegration site. See pages 119 and 99. This is a very useful reference to have.
beojeff:I know that some people have used BeoLink Actives (without speakers) in such rooms for the sole purpose of transmitting LIGHT/CONTROL commands to the BLGW.
yes, here! in two rooms
but the software on beolink actve must be 1.6 or above.
here you find the summary of the software to transmit the light/control commands.
http://mlgw.bang-olufsen.dk/source/documents/MLGW%20product%20compatibility.doc
beojeff:According to the 186 page BeoLink Handbook, Ver. 1.9, you can go up to 100 meters. Wow!
beojeff:The BL3500 can be controlled by the BLGW, but it must have software vision 3.3 or later to forward LIGHT/CONTROL commands to the BLGW.I found that I preferred installing Lutron RadioRa2 keypads anyway.
Yes. The BLGW can control any BL3500. It's just that only version 3.3 or higher of the BL3500 can send LIGHT/CONTROL commands through ML to the BLGW.
Kiran: beojeff: I DO, however, use an Essence wall remote in IR mode to send RADIO and CD commands to the BL3500 to play music from my BeoSound Moment through the BL3500. How have you done this? Is your NL/ML the Audiomaster? And you’ve mapped Radio and CD commands to point to the BS Moment?...
beojeff: I DO, however, use an Essence wall remote in IR mode to send RADIO and CD commands to the BL3500 to play music from my BeoSound Moment through the BL3500.
I DO, however, use an Essence wall remote in IR mode to send RADIO and CD commands to the BL3500 to play music from my BeoSound Moment through the BL3500.
How have you done this?
Is your NL/ML the Audiomaster?
And you’ve mapped Radio and CD commands to point to the BS Moment?...
Correct. I have a BeoVision 10 in the master bedroom set as Videomaster with an NL/ML set as AudioMaster. I have two BeoSound Moments: one in the bedroom using the BV10's speakers and another in the living room using the BeoSystem 4's speakers. On the NL/ML that is set as Audiomaster, I can freely map any of my NL sources to the masterlink audio source buttons. So, I could actually connect, for example, MUSIC from one BeoSound Moment to CD and map MUSIC from the other BeoSound Moment to RADIO. I currently have a BeoGram 9000 turntable connected on another NL/ML converter via a BeoMaster 5500 and have the turntable mapped as N.RADIO (PHONO on some remotes).
So I guess you could see this as having quite a lot of flexibility to map sources to be able to respond to the Essence Remote. It's just that you have to do the mapping on the NL/ML Converter as the Essence remote is fixed at RADIO and CD as sources it can control.
From the bathrooms with BL3500 speakers, I also have Beo4 remotes on the walls. With the Beo4 I can control all of the following that have been mapped to ML audio source commands via the NL/ML Converter that is set as AudioMaster:
RADIO = BeoSound Moment Bedroom TuneIn
A.MEM = BeoSound Moment Living Room MUSIC
CD = BeoSound Moment Bedroom MUSIC
A.AUX = BeoSound Moment Living Room TuneIn
N.RADIO = BeoMaster 5500's BeoGram 9500 turntable
N.MUSIC = BeoSound 5's ripped CD Library
I also have Lutron Keypads on the walls that have buttons for the following:
Join (Really more for future use if I later replace the 3500 with a BeoSound 35 -- since ML doesn't work with JOIN)
Radio
Music
CD (I could map this to trigger either the Living Room Moment's MUSIC or the BeoSound 5's ripped CD library as I see fit)
Turntable
Off
Don't forget that you can take advantage of fully controlling the BeoGram turntable (PLAY, STOP, BACK, FORWARD) when connecting it with an NL/ML Converter!
Have you seen my thread in the home automation forum where I posted some photos of my backlit, engraved Radio Ra2 keypads?
Remember that you can join more ML devices by using the NL/ML Converters. For example, I have one converter (the AudioMaster ML converter) as the converter connected to the BeoVision 10 Videomaster in order to join NL sources to the ML network. I have another converter for the BeoMaster 5/BeoGram 9500, and I have another converter for the BeoSound 5. I have a fourth converter that I'll use to either connect my BeoCenter 2 or BeoSystem 4500. Since only the NL/ML Converter that is set as AudioMaster is connected to the "main" ML network that is connected to the BLGW, the other B&O audio systems would not count against the ML limit. They are all bridged using the NL network. This could be ideal for you. You can keep buying more ML B&O products!
Those BeoLab 3500s are so well-priced these days -- and they look nice and discreet around the home. Have you looked into getting any BeoLab 2000s? Those can be found even cheaper. Great to stick in a kitchen corner.
beojeff:Since only the NL/ML Converter that is set as AudioMaster is connected to the "main" ML network that is connected to the BLGW, the other B&O audio systems would not count against the ML limit. They are all bridged using the NL network. This could be ideal for you. You can keep buying more ML B&O products!
I'm pretty sure that I added photos of the backlit, engraved wall keypads later on in the thread. If not, I'll try to upload some later. It's annoying how you can't upload photos to the forum from a mac. I have to got to app on an iOS device to upload photos.