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Penta II speaker hum

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edresh
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edresh Posted: Mon, Jul 6 2015 5:52 PM

One of my Penta II powered speakers started to Hum when first turned on. Thought it was my equipment. But the past few days the hum stayed on well after equipment was turned off, finally unplugged the speaker to stop it. when plugged back it the next day it hummed a bit but then went away. Is the amp going south? where can it be fixed in the USA, can I replace amp myself???

 

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Just get some icepower-modules and build them into a box. The original amps are old and use way too much power.

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You can send it over for repair. But shippingcosts are probably a bit more. Specially as I advise to service both amplifiers. 

Is the amplifier getting hot at the back panels? If so, be carefull as the output stage can get faulty. 

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edresh replied on Tue, Jul 7 2015 9:19 PM

Leosgonewild,

 I was just in your fair city what a wonderful place especially enjoyed the design museum.

Anyway I have researched the ICE power modules and everything I read seems like it's the way to go even upgrade the penta's.

I must be honest I know very little about such things and will need help with every step of the process, can you or someone you know do the upgrade.

Preferably someone in the US due to shipping cost but would not let that get in the way of fixing them.

Regards

ED Resh

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I would suggest a small box that you build a icepower 125asx2 into. It is fairly simple.

Building it into the Penta's is not optimal.

Send me a PM, and I can help you out.

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rudimeyer replied on Thu, May 23 2019 12:24 AM

Would you use 1 x 125asx2 for both Pentas or one for each?

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I built mine with a 50asx2 into each speakers. Then I split used one output from the each into each of the crossovers.

I was not able to fit anything bigger than the 50asx2 inside.

If you are using a 125asx2, I would suggest building a box and using one channel for each speaker.

If you want to use one 125asx2 for each speaker, you will need a balanced signal to run each of them in BLT-mode.

I have a 250asx2 I have no use for, should someone be interested.

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Peter Pan replied on Thu, May 23 2019 10:34 AM

My advice.

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BEOVOX141 replied on Thu, May 23 2019 4:48 PM

Hi edresh.

You could start by replacing the two electrolytic capacitors in the power supply 80V/10000 uF (from memory)

I would give it a 85% probability for success!

If you follow Peters disassembly instruction right above you will be able to see them right away, just look for two miniature beer cans Smile

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Peter Pan replied on Fri, May 24 2019 6:10 AM

Try it BEOVOX 141, your Penta will play so well that you can't understand it's the same speaker. Lets have a Party !!!

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Peter Pan replied on Fri, May 24 2019 6:33 AM

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Peter Pan:

Try it BEOVOX 141, your Penta will play so well that you can't understand it's the same speaker. Lets have a Party !!!

We’ve heart that advice a thousand times now.

Does not help much if you can’t provide a link to reasonsonably priced ICEPower amp.

 

By the way - don’t you disqualify the Pentas as a speaker, when you need to use a subwoofer with them......which you never mention writing about your Pentas?

 

MM

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It would be nice if MM and PP could take their beef to a separate thread.

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leosgonewild:
It would be nice if MM and PP could take their beef to a separate thread.

I guess this is relevant, when P.P.’s advice is to use an ICEPower amp.

Since the link that he presents is ages old and contains no distribution source, could you provide such a link, perhaps......with or without beef?

MM

 

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BEOVOX141 replied on Fri, May 24 2019 7:24 PM

Millemissen:

We’ve heart that advice a thousand times now.

Does not help much if you can’t provide a link to reasonsonably priced ICEPower amp

You could simply use the modules from a Beolab 7-X... Those are around for a third of what Peter paid for his modules!

Millemissen:
By the way - don’t you disqualify the Pentas as a speaker, when you need to use a subwoofer with them

There really is no need for subwoofer with the Pentas, at higher levels where the ABL on the moderns "design" speakers kicks in, they might even rival a 9 or a 20 in the lower department!

If Peter has a subwoofer connected It might be beacuse he is suffering from a severe case of UnusedConnectionfobia.

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BEOVOX141 replied on Fri, May 24 2019 9:33 PM

Peter Pan:
you can't understand it's the same speaker

No I get that, you end up with an amputee without the magnificent display....

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Peter Pan replied on Sat, May 25 2019 7:37 AM

ICEpower Beoamp 2. Download PDF fil. Tryk her

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BEOVOX141 replied on Sat, May 25 2019 8:47 AM

Beoamp 2, I guess Millermissen stands corrected!

That would be an excellent choice, and its actually not that expensive and in an actual non plastic enclosure!

Brilliant,- good thinking Peter!

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Thanks!

That might be an option - I wonder if someone has tried that out.

The mediocre display of infos in the original BL Penta version I can easily live without.

No recent, modern source sends anything anyway.

I’d prefer getting my media infos from an external (handheld) device.

MM

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Dillen replied on Sat, May 25 2019 2:34 PM

Humming Pentas;

Check the filter capacitors as mentioned above.
Check also the rectifiers.
Check the idle current settings. If wrong replace the trimmer and readjust.
Check for cracked solder joints where the ribbon cable from the front panel is soldered to the main board.

Martin

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BEOVOX141 replied on Sat, May 25 2019 4:38 PM

Millemissen:
The mediocre display....

Mediocre? I wonder how that word slipped into your vocabulary...?

 

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What does it show/display, that could be of any help today.....even with oldschool masters?

P.S. I used to love it on my BL5000/3000 - but that was 10 years ago.

MM

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BEOVOX141 replied on Sun, May 26 2019 9:55 AM

The answer lies implicitly in the name: "Status Display"

I guess the same thing can be achieved by super gluing a "handheld" device to the palm of your hand... Big Smile

 

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