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gysse2004 Posted: Wed, Mar 25 2020 3:35 PM

New software update, fixed light diode disappears during audio mode, shows metadata for radio on top for 2 min now, instead of on the left hand side. Much nicer 😎 also gives coverflow when playing Chromecast. 

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mbee replied on Wed, Mar 25 2020 6:12 PM

Very interesting. Can anybody make a video of this in action ? Mikipidia maybe?

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Mikipidia replied on Wed, Mar 25 2020 7:48 PM
Sure, i was thinking about that anyway Stick out tongue

Even with this lockdown, neighbours in my building are redoing the bathroom so iam a bit hampered with making videos as they’re bloody loud all day...

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@gysse

Untill Miki gets his camera started for a video, you - maybe - could post a couple of pics here.

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mbee replied on Wed, Mar 25 2020 8:18 PM

Nice idea, a picture is already useful!

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gysse2004 replied on Wed, Mar 25 2020 8:44 PM

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gysse2004 replied on Wed, Mar 25 2020 8:49 PM

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gysse2004 replied on Wed, Mar 25 2020 8:51 PM

Tried to upload pictures, but from iPad, form factor to big

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Mikipidia replied on Wed, Mar 25 2020 9:53 PM

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andy_js replied on Wed, Mar 25 2020 10:21 PM

That's pretty slick.

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gysse2004:

Tried to upload pictures, but from iPad, form factor to big

I use Photo Reziser for adjusting the size

https://apps.apple.com/dk/app/photo-resizer-resize-and-filter-your-image-free/id1153926281?l=da

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Thanks Miki!

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Great news,

a small question.

When you adjust the volume, is it just Plus Minus, or do it write a number?

In generel not only in music mode.

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Esax replied on Thu, Mar 26 2020 11:02 AM
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Can you turn of that feature? Is it always in the same place? Thinking of the burn in problem.

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Gysse wrote that it was only for 2 min.

So I would not worry about burn in,

Also

People are starting using these screens as PC monitor,

The 48" CX have been pointed to the PC gaming environment 

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mbee replied on Thu, Mar 26 2020 12:46 PM

And don't forget it's the first time you can quickly update your Beovision's panel by buying another one in any cheap TV shop Big Smile

(that's not my aim of course, the longer it lasts the better for the planet)

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w5bno123 replied on Thu, Mar 26 2020 1:37 PM
Displaying TuneIn Radio

Displaying Chromecast metadata.

The volume display shows as usual on the screen.

Here’s an overview of what is possible.

Enjoy the update Harmony owners!

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Would be nice if we can get the same info on EclipseSmile

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Well it's a nice update for Harmony owners that actually use their Harmony for music streaming.  So it's chromecast only if you want to see metadata and cover art with no airplay 2 (obv licensing).

I wonder if a future update can make it a little more B&O?  But would that effectively mean text only (font like a BS4) and no cover art

Or cover art on the left and in the middle section as it seems the UI is in 3 parts, have "chromecast audio" in text without the chromecast logo and then the song and album under neath that and get rid of the "source" logo on the right hand side. 

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Fansastic replied on Fri, Mar 27 2020 8:12 AM
w5bno123:

Displaying TuneIn Radio

Displaying Chromecast metadata.

The volume display shows as usual on the screen.

Here’s an overview of what is possible.

Enjoy the update Harmony owners!

Regards

Stuart

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And if you play music from a Moment or other source through NL, no meta data shown? And drom own Deezer app in the Harmony, metadata shown or not?

With this new direction of the Multiroom usage through chromecast and airplay, is there still any function for the B&O app (apart for setting up things)?

Thanks for sharing!

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Carolpa replied on Fri, Mar 27 2020 9:13 AM
Fansastic:

And if you play music from a Moment or other source through NL, no meta data shown? And drom own Deezer app in the Harmony, metadata shown or not?

With this new direction of the Multiroom usage through chromecast and airplay, is there still any function for the B&O app (apart for setting up things)?

Thanks for sharing!

NL: which NL device is joined and the devices source which is playing; no meta data

Airplay: no meta data, just the source AirPlay is shown.

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Carolpa replied on Fri, Mar 27 2020 9:18 AM
Fansastic:

With this new direction of the Multiroom usage through chromecast and airplay, is there still any function for the B&O app (apart for setting up things)?
hardly.

B&o looses its identity in the multiroom aria completely this way.

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Hiort replied on Fri, Mar 27 2020 9:27 AM

Fansastic:

And from own Deezer app in the Harmony, metadata shown or not?

No metadata shown

 

 

 

 

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Fansastic replied on Fri, Mar 27 2020 4:22 PM
Carolpa:

hardly.

B&o looses its identity in the multiroom aria completely this way.

Completely agree. Shocking how little people seem to care about this. I’m completely dedicated to use the B&O interface only through Beoremote1, app and touch to join. The minut they got this almost 100% they seem to ditch it all in once. Is the management that bad that they just don’t care?? The NL protocol can not be that expensive and the app is almost there so not a big investment anymore to keep it maintained.

I watched the google pairing of the Balance the chromecast setup on youtube channel from John of B&O Manchester and I was feeling sad, the B&O app is looking so much better and simpler to use!

And even the Harmony is leaning more and more to AP and CC use only. Is the Harmony still functioning over NL I wonder. Maybe the Eclipse is really the last Beovision ever made...

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Carolpa replied on Fri, Mar 27 2020 4:52 PM
Fansastic:

And even the Harmony is leaning more and more to AP and CC use only. Is the Harmony still functioning over NL I wonder. Maybe the Eclipse is really the last Beovision ever made...

NL on Harmony is comparable to NL on Eclipse.

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Fansastic replied on Fri, Mar 27 2020 5:39 PM
That is sufficient enough

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Alsfeld replied on Wed, Jun 3 2020 10:00 AM

Carolpa:
Airplay: no meta data, just the source AirPlay is shown.

How disappointing, same problems like at the Beosound 35. Chromecast meta-data are displayed but no meta-data when using Airplay. Perhaps the following link will give the B&O software developer some hints how to do solve it for Airplay (https://appcodelabs.com/show-artist-song-metadata-using-airplay-on-raspberry-pi).

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HH1971 replied on Sun, Jul 19 2020 8:53 AM

Thank you Alsfeld for the hind, it would be so unbelievable if B&O software developer would fix the problem at the Beosound 35. So that at least Airplay is using the full functionalities (display) of the Beosound 35, since Bang & Olufsen stopped Netlink / NL and unfortunately the Bang&Olufsen app is not usable at all for music content streaming.

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Mikipidia replied on Sun, Jul 19 2020 12:31 PM
B&O hasn’t stopped NL, that’s a misconception.

B&O’s app isn’t a streaming app, it’s a controller for the streaming part inside your b&o device.

And lastly, ap2 not showing meta data is apple not allowing it atm, it’s not the fact that B&O hasn’t done it as they would love to implement it. CC is a more open platform and they don’t need to ask permission for that, that’s why it works with CC.

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Alsfeld replied on Fri, Jul 24 2020 6:19 PM

Mikipidia:
And lastly, ap2 not showing meta data is apple not allowing it atm,

You are sure? I can not believe it!

When I stream via Airplay to my Beosound Core the B&O iOS app shows the meta-data of the Airplay stream! When I stream to my Beosound 35, the B&O iOS app shows nothing besides „Airplay“ (a license / legal topic? - why is the Beosound Core able to show it at the B&O iOS app?).

When I „touch to join“ the Beosound 35 to join my Beosound Core, the Beosound 35 shows in the B&O iOS App AND on the Beosound35 display the Airplay meta-data (is this a bug or a feature and a licence / legal problem for B&O?)

Sorry, for me it looks like so often in the past (e.g. Beosound Moment, Beosound 5), that Bang & Olufsen stopped the development of the Beosound 35 before the software became mature and finalized. Every new CEO brings in new ideas and new products and the products of the predecessor are just discontinued. This company philosophy unfortunately will not build up trust at all, especially considering the average retention time of a CEO at Bang & Olufsen.

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HH1971 replied on Sun, Aug 9 2020 8:46 PM

It is frustrating to see that Bang&Olufsen does not change / enhance it. 

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gysse2004 replied on Tue, Aug 18 2020 3:19 PM

New software 3.0 for Hamony, don’t now what’s new..

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Audio replied on Tue, Sep 15 2020 8:58 PM

Is it possible to stream the sound of TV life program from a Beovision Harmony in sync to a NL speaker e.g. Beosound 35?
Similar as it was possible via Masterlink. I would like to listen to my Beosound 35 at the kitchen when e.g. news is running in the living room on a Beovision Harmony.

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Hiort replied on Wed, Sep 16 2020 5:34 PM
Audio:

Is it possible to stream the sound of TV life program from a Beovision Harmony in sync to a NL speaker e.g. Beosound 35? Similar as it was possible via Masterlink. I would like to listen to my Beosound 35 at the kitchen when e.g. news is running in the living room on a Beovision Harmony.

Absolutely

 

 

 

 

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Audio:

Is it possible to stream the sound of TV life program from a Beovision Harmony in sync to a NL speaker e.g. Beosound 35? Similar as it was possible via Masterlink. I would like to listen to my Beosound 35 at the kitchen when e.g. news is running in the living room on a Beovision Harmony.

When I stream the sound of a live tv program from my Eclipse to my Beoplay M5 over NL, the sound on the M5 is delayed and thus out of sync with the Eclipse.

I assume, that this will be the same on the Harmony ...

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andy_js replied on Wed, Sep 16 2020 7:11 PM
There’s an option on the BV11 to adjust the network delay which can be used to fix that. I would hope the new LG based sets have something similar.
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Alsfeld replied on Wed, Sep 16 2020 8:44 PM

andy_js:
adjust the network delay

I just tested it. Similar situation here, when I connect my Beosound 1 or Beoplay M3 to my Beovision Harmony I have a heavy delay listening to TV (no problem listening to Radio at the Harmony). But I still use the standard sync settings of 50 / 1000 msec.

@andy_js: What network delay settings you are using, to have it in sync?

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gysse2004 replied on Thu, Sep 17 2020 2:25 PM

New 3.1 software out

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Dyssegaard:

When I stream the sound of a live tv program from my Eclipse to my Beoplay M5 over NL, the sound on the M5 is delayed and thus out of sync with the Eclipse.

I assume, that this will be the same on the Harmony ... Best regards - Dyssegaard

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You adjust the audio delay in the app under M5 and then it will be in sync

I had that when i got the A9 years ago and as soon as I changed it, never an issue anymore.
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Dyssegaard replied on Fri, Sep 18 2020 11:09 AM
I have found this useful document at B&O Customer support:

https://bogo.custhelp.com/ci/fattach/get/1304261/0/filename/Multiroom+-+october+2017+-+PDF+handout.pdf

At page 10 it is stated for Eclipse, that sound is delayed in link rooms for all video sources.

At page 2 it is stated for BV11 and Beoplay V1, that sound will be in sync in link rooms for all video sources.

Both statements reflects my observations with my Beoplay M5 connected to Eclipse or BV11 via NL.

However, since the document is dated October 2017, there is no information regarding the Harmony.

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