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Beosound Stage, Beovision 8-40, Beolit 20, Beosound Explore.
Wasn't that already announced from the dealers in the UK?
In DK some of them are inviting for an event with 'a presentation of two new products'.
Pretty sure it's a BV (the 'new Avant') and a new speaker (BL20).
As far as I know on that day there will be a general launch somewhere(?-where).
MM
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There is a tv - and there is a BV
vlohjr1:Heard that bo is aggressively clearing out things that don't sell
Quotation from the recent interim report:
"In the fourth quarter of the 2013/14 financial year, Bang & Olufsen will launch a new generation TV and a new high-end speaker in the wireless speaker range."
They might lower the price of the BV11? I am also seeing a lot of used 11s on ebay at the moment so perhaps people with inside knowledge
are selling them to recover more of their money before the Avant is presented.
My dealer informed me in spain launch may the 8th new tv and beolab20
malcolm welborn
Douglas: They might lower the price of the BV11?
They might lower the price of the BV11?
Doubt that, but my dealer *insists* I should wait for the new TV announcement before considering any other B&O TV options. He claims I'll be very surprised.
Only thing would surprise me, is very competitive pricing, so maybe the new TV will be very competitively priced.
Do you have a reason to doubt that? Without the trade-in offer the 11-55 is a lot more expensive.
The new Avant has a 4K-panel and most likely the same features or more.
For now I don't see any reason to buy a BV11, unless the price goes (way) down.
I'll be at the "Grand Launch" in London on the 8th of May.
Would you guys like me to do one of my reviews - or just leave the details to trickle out anyway?
Lee
If you have the inclination, I'd love one of your reviews! Lots of pics too please
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I'm also waiting... the thing is that if for some reason the design sucks (or better, does not suit the living room according to the house Chief Interior Design Officer...), I'm stuck because I'm definitely not impressed with the angle of vision of the BV11, compared to my current BV10.
Anyway, my dealer swears on 4K and CHF 3000 less than the BV11. The 11-55 costs ~13000 CHF (with the motorised stand and a Beo4) without taking into account the trade-in (CHF 1850 over here). Not a dramatic decrease.
He also said that the TV has all features of the 11 (Smart TV, Wisa, 3D) and "more"...
I second that, i would definitely like a review if you get the chance.
Beoplay A2
The viewing angle on the bv11 is the worst thing about it.
OH and the lack of any on tv controls...
The problem, for me anyway, is that there are no miracles.
If the Beovision Avant 2014 is surprisingly cheapper than it's predecessors, something will be "wrong".
The build quality can't be the same, the materials and components can't be the same...
The "Country of origin : Denmark" sign will have to go.
Really hope I'm totally wrong though and that will have the most outstanding Tv ever made in Denmark for 5.000 €.
Most people cry out for less expensive BV's!
Now it seems that they are coming.
Immidiately people start to cry out that they are too 'cheap'
The viewing angle on LCD/LED is the worst thing about it. Not much B&O can do about that.
Beovision Harmony 77" 2nd Gen, Beolab 5, Beolab 17, Beosound 1, Beoplay M3, Beoplay Portal, Beoplay Earset, Beoliving Intelligence
Lack of any on TV controls?
I've never had the need to turn on the TV on the actual TV it self. Who does that?
I will almost guarantee that you will not see that on any of B&Os future TVs. It will just add to the complexity of both design and technical requirements, without adding any real benefits for 99.9% of users.
With regards to viewing angles you just have to accept the limitations of the LCD technology. Sure they could use another type of LCD panel, but that would just make the blacks look awful. B&O have addressed this in the own fashion, by giving the option to buy a motorized stand or wall bracket.
Beovision Eclipse gen2 (GX) w/ floorstand, Beolab 14.2, 4 speaker Shape and ATV4/Chromecast.
Beoplay A9mk4 GVA, Beosound 1 GVA, H2, H3, H8, E6, Beoplay EQ
MikaelHansen:Lack of any on TV controls?
Millemissen: Immidiately people start to cry out that they are too 'cheap'
I think you will have it all - apart from the 'danish sticker'.
I don't know what will be on the 'stickers' - but 'Made in Denmark - Assembled in the Czech Republic' wouldn't sound bad at all, imo.
emilos: The viewing angle on LCD/LED is the worst thing about it. Not much B&O can do about that.
I'm no expert, but the viewing angle of my BV10-46 seems much better.
Marcello: I'm no expert, but the viewing angle of my BV10-46 seems much better.
The BV10-46 and BV11-46 will use the same panel. They won't be sourced differently. However, a new BV10 will have a newer version of the panel than an older BV11 - my BV10-32 is, for example, quite a few months newer than my BV11 and has a slightly sharper panel and, arguably, a wider viewing angle.
So, if your BV10-46 is a relatively recent purchase, it might actually have a newer and more up-to-date panel then the BV11.
moxxey: So, if your BV10-46 is a relatively recent purchase, it might actually have a newer and more up-to-date panel then the BV11.
I don't think it applies to my case. We got the BV 10 in March 2012, and it was in stock at my dealer, so it's unlikely the panel is newer.
Anyway, I was just told that the Avant will be initially available in 55", and in August there will be a 85". They also mentioned a third size, but I can't remember if they said 65 or 75.
I was also told that the stand will be the same regardless of the TV size, and they said to expect it to be quite predominant in a 55" setup... cost savings again I guess...
Sounds good - keep your stand and upgrade to a bigger screen
BeoGreg: Logicaly, BV 10-46 stopped being produced when BV 11-46 was launch so it can't have a newer panel.
Logicaly, BV 10-46 stopped being produced when BV 11-46 was launch so it can't have a newer panel.
No, the BV10 was current product until reasonably recently. As I said above, my BV10-32 is a "2013" model, whereas my BV11 is from "2012". The BV10 was still being manufactured through 2013. So, it's wrong to say production stopped when the BV11 was launched. The BV10 was simultaneously available to order for many months after the BV11 was launched. The BV10 and BV11 will have shared panels during this period.
Marcello: Anyway, I was just told that the Avant will be initially available in 55", and in August there will be a 85". They also mentioned a third size, but I can't remember if they said 65 or 75.
I was told it will be a 65". So, 55/65/85 options.
moxxey: BeoGreg: Logicaly, BV 10-46 stopped being produced when BV 11-46 was launch so it can't have a newer panel. No, the BV10 was current product until reasonably recently. As I said above, my BV10-32 is a "2013" model, whereas my BV11 is from "2012". The BV10 was still being manufactured through 2013. So, it's wrong to say production stopped when the BV11 was launched. The BV10 was simultaneously available to order for many months after the BV11 was launched. The BV10 and BV11 will have shared panels during this period.
I thought only the 10-32 is produced longer in 2013 as the 10-40/46.
BV10 and BV11 can't share the same panels. The BV11 was 3D from the beginning, so it's always a newer panel...
Millemissen:Most people cry out for less expensive BV's! Now it seems that they are coming. Immidiately people start to cry out that they are too 'cheap' MM There is a tv - and there is a BV.
I do not call it 'cheap' - I would rather call it 'less expensive'.
BeoGreg was concerned that 'less expensive' would mean 'cheap'.
I am not afraid of that.
Really - Räuber - do you want a Samsung at your place? Even if it has a 4K panel!
I don't - I want a BV, and am pleased that in Struer they finally have realized that even a BV must get less expensive than it used to be.
kai:Look forward to hearing about the new products when launched, but I'm disappointed by the amount of products being discontinued,
Out with the old. In with the new.
Even if the BL3 is discontinued, the newer product will be better. I love my BL3s although I don't use them that much. But if they had inbuilt wireless and all the stuff of the newer speakers - you would definitely chose the one with the more fruit.
BL3.1 onward and upward.
Can't wait to see the new TV and the new stereo (whenever that is coming).
moxxey: The BV10 was still being manufactured through 2013. So, it's wrong to say production stopped when the BV11 was launched.
BeoGreg: Only the BV 10-32 remained after the introduction of BV 11-40 and 46.
Only the BV 10-32 remained after the introduction of BV 11-40 and 46.
I spoke with my dealer at lunch and he said they were able to (and did) order the BV10-40 and 46 long after the launch of the BV11, through B&O. It wasn't dealer-stock. B&O kept them in production for people who wanted a masterlink TV. You can't get them now of course, but you could for a while after the 2012 BV11 release.