B & O Beovox 2702 Speakers

I noted that on the information relating to the above-mentioned speakers - feedback was asked on these.  I use a set of 2702 with my Beocenter 4000 and was surprised (rather chuffed actually) to read that this the 2702 speakers were recommended for this system.  

 

For the playing of cassettes and for the tuner the sound is great, however, there is a loss and some distortion when playing LPs (especially opera) on the higher notes, especially with sopranos such as Lucia Popp and Leontyne Price.  Peter did suggest that I look for Red Line 60.2S or 6000 speakers for this system of mine (which I am presently sourcing).

 

In saying all this, however, I think these speakers give a half-decent sound and are unobtrusive in the corners of the room.   

Sounds more like an issue with your turntable than your speakers. Distortion at higher frequencies and on vocals is usually a sign of a worn/damaged stylus IMHO.

Lee 

Lee:

Sounds more like an issue with your turntable than your speakers. Distortion at higher frequencies and on vocals is usually a sign of a worn/damaged stylus IMHO.

Lee 

I would fully agree to that.

 

ProfDAFlynn:

In saying all this, however, I think these speakers give a half-decent sound and are unobtrusive in the corners of the room.

David,

I had a pair in the early 70s and thought they were a very well balanced bookshelf speaker. They could even offer a pretty good soundstage for really challenging recordings - even Solti's Mahler 8!

Cleve

Thanks Lee - I am going out today to buy a new stylus.  I appreciate your remarks about these speakers and especially when it comes to the sound from Mahler 8th!!

 

David

Cleve - thank you for this and I am pleased to note that Lee stated that the problem with the upper registers could be worn stylus.  So I am going out to buy a new one today.  I also mentioned to him about the sound from the speakers from the Mahler 8th.  Looking forward to playing the Verdi AIDA with Leontyne Price, Grace Bumbry and Domingo later this afternoon - hopefully the Triumphal Scene will sound as good as it did in the mid-70 when I first purchased the recording!!!

 

David

David,

I wish you luck in your quest. B&O haven't made cartridges for over 20 years.

You really have only three options. Buy a good but used one on eBay, which is unlikely to be cheap and with all the usual risks attached to buying there.

Buy a new one made by a company called Soundsmith in the US. This isn't cheap either.

The last and probably the best option is to get your existing cartridge rebuilt with a new stylus and cantilever. There is a man in Germany called Axel who can do this. I have a couple of cartridges that he has rebuilt and they perform exceptionally well. You can even get the cartridge upgraded to a higher spec (I suspect if you have a 2200 then yours will be an MMC5).

Depending on which specification it will cost between 100 and 200 euros. Here is a link to his site.

http://www.schallplattennadeln.de/B-O-MMC-Reparatur-Repair/MMC-Repair-English/

Cleve

Which Beocenter 4000 do you have? there are two - the 70s one with one cassette deck or the 80s one with a double cassette? The 2702s are early 70s speakers.

Hi David,

What cartridge are you using on your turntable? 

If you looking for clarity in the upper frequencies I would strongly suggest you look for a shibata or a micro line stylus. They are more expensive but do make a big difference. Very often old records that have been worn by an elliptical stylus sound like new when played with one (they track in a different  part of the grove that's unworn) 

Lee 

Great Cleve.  I nearly died when I rang B & O in Belfast and they quoted me £220 for a stylus!!  Will contact your supplier immediately and see what he can do.  In fact, it might be worth buying a couple in case of misfortune.

 

Best wishes, David

Peter my 4000 is the double cassette type and I want to thank you for your advice before on speakers when you suggested the RL 60.2.S or 6000 series on my previous post and I am looking out for a set now.

 

Best wishes and thanks for all your help - again.

 

David

Lee

I am using the MC5 on the Beocenter 2200 but on the 4000 I am using the Akai ATN 3401 (Diamond) (P7 ST Swiss made) and it is the Akai turntable that I was using to play through.  I don't want to continue to use M5 as it costs £220 a touch!!

Where would you suggest that I look for a shibata or micro line - can this be fitted to the Akai turntable - would you know?

 

Thanks again

 

David

 

David,

A quick trawl through the internet suggests the stylus for the Audio Technica cartridge in the Akai is still available. It might be NOS (new old stock) but would appear to be readily available and very cheap (28 US Dollars/£15.

Cleve

Cleve - thanks a bunch. Ordered two at £15 each and incidentally got a Stabata Cartridge/stylus as well for the Akai for £19.99 as suggested by Lee.  So here's hoping.

 

Thanks a lot - David