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I would like some advise.
I have purchased BL17 speakers with Beolab Transmitter 1 for wireless (sound) connection. This to be connected to my BS9000 - so far so good. I will pick-up the speakers on April 26 and will report my findings after that date.
But what I need advise on is how to connect my music library in iTunes to the BS9000 or Beolab Transmitter. Reason for asking is that I do not have all my CDs directly at hand - these I have copied to iTunes earlier on.
I have been reading lots op topics and that, together with the advise from B&O shop, tells me that it is a playmaker I need, correct?
Hejsan Ferdinand,
you may use a Playmaker or the new Essence for that.
Just connect one PowerLink-output to the Aux-in of the BS9000.
You will need an adapter cable for that, which can be ordered through your dealer.
For instructions how to set up the Playmaker or the Essence please ask your dealer.
The configuration is slightly different for both - but basically you wiill need a 'fixed line-output' and (for the PM) the Option 0 or (for the Essence) the so-called 'hotel-mode'.
If you just want to AirPlay from iTunes, you might simply use an AirPort Express instead. But the PM or the Essence would give you a better sound - and the Essence in addition access to netradio stations through the BeoMusic app.
MM
There is a tv - and there is a BV
I use a Playmaker connected to the aux input of my BS9000 and am very happy with it. Sound quality is great. I have the PM in a closed cabinet, set to fixed output level. I stream from either my PC and iTunes, or from my iPad running Spotify.
Jeff
I'm afraid I'm recovering from the BeoVirus.
Hi Ferdinand, I just looked in your archive of your previous postings and see you have a Mac Mini. Is your iTunes library there?
Not 100% sure if this works, as I never saw anybody had it setup this way, but I think this can work and cheap to try. Your Mini has an optical out, and the Transmitter has an optical in. Just start playing music from your library, control the volume from your Mini and the BL17’s will follow. Setting it up this way, you don’t need a PM or Essence and the BS9000 can stay offline.
If distance (optical cable) is a problem between the Mini and Transmitter you could use an Airport Express and use the optical out of the AE to the Transmitter. You will not use the very poor DAC of the AE this way and have a digital transfer until it hits the Transmitter.
Using a MacMini that way is great - especially if it is a 'dedicated source' only for music.
Most people do use their computer for other things too, and Ferdinand - in his op - asked for a solution including the BS9000. So probably the Playmaker will be the best solution. My advice is to have a look at the Essence (connected in the same way) before deciding - if netradio and Spotify Connect should be on the wishlist too.
Thanks for all answers, I am in doubt a bit about the essence. I never use Spotify and do not have any NASdrive or other seperated place where I store my music. The macmini is connected to the TV (BV10) only to watch some Dutch shows on 'uitzending gemist' similar to SVTplay etc. I also use the Macmini as a back-up drive for my pictures and videos.
What is netradio? Digital radio streaming i assume? Are Dutch channels included, that would be a USP for the other adult in my houshold The FS so to speak.
What I look for is that i press a button on my BEO4 which will 'activate' a source to which I can send my music from iMac / iPad to. Via the transmitter 1 box (?) sound will be send to speakers. Something like that.
I had a quick demo for the Essence but I believe it is not the right product for me, but maybe I am totally off.
My BS9000 has been stored away for two years and during that time I have only listened to music via the iPad (in the B&O dock) and iMac.
The way I play music via streaming with my setup (Playmaker, BS9000) sounds like what you want to do. I press A. Aux on my Beo4, then I start streaming from either the PC or iPad, and adjust volume and such with the Beo4.
Most of the time I don't even have to go to my PC to run iTunes, since I have the iTunes Remote App on my iPad. I can browse music, play it, make playlists, etc. on the fly using the iPad remotely controlling my PC from my listening spot.
And yes, I am that lazy.
Hi Ferdinand,
in your case (now I understand that you don't use the BS9000) the easiest thing would be to buy an AppleTV-box.
Playing music throught the BV10 goes like this: Press 'AV' and the 'Source'-button - 'Source' is the button you have assigned to the HDMI-input with the ATV-box, 'AV' turns on the BV with muted screen (when in Option2). After that you will have to choose the ATV in the list of AirPlay devices on the iPad (via Remote app) and throw what you please to the box.
If you don't have any spare HDMI-inputs, you could use an AirPortExpres - use the digital output to connect to one of the digital inputs on the BV10 (you will need an optical to coax-adapter), alternatively you could use the analog out of it to connect to the analog-in (stereo/RCA/red-white) on the BV10.
Note: the Essence has more potential/possebilities than you usually are told in the shops!
Netradio - there are several iOS app's for netradio stations (I use the TuneIn app/tunein.com) and there are certainly plenty of dutch stations
Hi Millemissen and others,
I will set up the BS9000 again next week. Claiming some space back -from my kids- in my own livingroom for my equipment
BS9000 will be used to play CDs (I am one of few that still buys them) and for radio (via coax - very old-fashion likely)
I think I understand what you say about the playing music through the BV10 , however the BV10 will not be connected to BS9000 and or to the transmitter box for sound distribution. I might be a bit old-fashioned and certainly I am not utilizing all available B&O possibilities , but for me the TV is the TV and not the Stereo.
I'll check out some netradio apps and will have another good read into the Essence on the other topic on this forum.
Lots of options here, and sure Jeff’s setup would definitely work. But since you’re focus is more to spin CD’s, I wouldn’t invest in a PlayMaker or Essence. You would probably use the AirPlay function the most. Same result can be achieved with a much cheaper AirPort Express. With the TuneIn app you have 70.000 stations and about 700 in the Netherlands.
I would take advantage of the Transmitter you will have: Multiple sources! Connect the optical out of the AE with the optical in of the Transmitter. Not sure how the Transmitter prioritise the incoming sources, but I assume the PowerLink (BS9000) gets the highest, followed by the optical.
DoubleU: Lots of options here, and sure Jeff’s setup would definitely work. But since you’re focus is more to spin CD’s, I wouldn’t invest in a PlayMaker or Essence. You would probably use the AirPlay function the most. Same result can be achieved with a much cheaper AirPort Express. With the TuneIn app you have 70.000 stations and about 700 in the Netherlands. I would take advantage of the Transmitter you will have: Multiple sources! Connect the optical out of the AE with the optical in of the Transmitter. Not sure how the Transmitter prioritise the incoming sources, but I assume the PowerLink (BS9000) gets the highest, followed by the optical.
You can't connect multiple sources to the Transmitter1.
There is a switch - you will have to decide for what you want to use the Transmitter.
"B&O INPUT (YES – NO)
Input signal switch: YES is for connection of a Bang & Olufsen system, and NO is for connection of a non-Bang & Olufsen system."
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Quite strange this thread.
What started out with a question with focus on playing iTunes-files ('the CD's copied to iTunes earlier on'), and the use of the Playmaker for this, now turns out to focus on playing CD's and - perhaps/occationally - a bit of AirPlaying files from iTunes
I now realize that the original question: "...the advise from B&O shop, tells me that it is a playmaker I need, correct?", should have been answered with a simple and short: 'Yes!'
You are absolutely right, but this can easily be solved. Just set the switch to NO. Only downside here is that the BL17’s will stay on (but silent) for about 3 minutes after the BS9000 goes in standby. I could live with that.
Off course connecting a PM to the Aux of the BS9000 will work too. But personally I like the multiple source option, more. Cheaper and more convenient.
Choices are good!
Hello again, Millemissen, Jeff, DoubleU, thanks again for answering my questions.
Sorry that the thread derailed a bit but that's basically because I am not really 100% sure on what I want / need. I am leaning towards purchasing the Playmaker to stream from iTunes and, as i learned now, any given netradio app. But, if I buy a playmaker now, the price for the Essence -for me- would the Essence minus PM and thus become interesting as well.
One note to Millemissen, you understood my question correct, the focus is on my CD collection in iTunes. I just do not have all my CDs at hand in the room where the BS9000 is, so yes also from the iTunes I want to be able to play my CD collection as well. I am not a playlist listener, I listen to albums from begin to end so it would be good to have more than 6 options (the 6 CDs in the BS9000)
hmmm all this choices ... I'll let you know how it will go Saturday at B&O
Hello,
Picked up the speakers yesterday and installed them. That was easy as 1,2,3. Really plug an play.
The stands to the speaker: if you can do IKEA you can do that as well.
I have decided to go for the playmaker for iTunes streaming and installing the PM was challenging in the beginning -how to install a device that has no display?- but once i got the installation app running it was easy as well. I needed a few re-sets though on both PM and my router but now they seem to have found eachother.
So I had a great Saturday. It was really nice weather so the car-ride over the Öresundsbridge from Malmö to Copenhagen and back was a treat of it's own. Downtown Copenhagen I could even find a parking spot - woohoo. The total volume of all boxes was less then I expected so it was easy to take with me.
At home I have set-up my BS9000 again - after 2 years , a big relief I have to admit that it still is functioning. After that I started with the transmitter, speakers and stand. Next weekend I will tidy up the cabling a bit more and will likely put the BS9000 somewhere else in the room.
With all excitement I have forgotten to take more pictures of the installation process. Ill share some pictures of final placement later on.
Ferdinand
Congratulation with your purchase. Nice!
Splendid - hope you and your family will have lots of fun with your 'new' setup.
Please do tell us how you like the BL17!
I am not an audiophile but for me the BL17 are just great. A really nice sound and impressive bass / low tones. Also (for me) they're ideal for having music on the background, still all nuances in the music can be heard.
Listening in the store is off course different than at hone, at home I do not alway have best listening position, let alone all the 'kids stuff' and furniture that is standing (too) close to the speakers. See picture
For now I would say the sound was a bit 'warmer' at the B&O shop but I am still a very very happy man cd/tv/dvd/iMac/radio/sPM all with one remote and functioning - woohoo
Will come back in this thread with more opinions on the sound in a couple of days.
Ferdinand: I am still a very very happy man cd/tv/dvd/iMac/radio/sPM all with one remote and functioning - woohoo
Looks good Ferdinand ! And I bet it sounds even better !!
BeoNut since '75
Dear All, I promised to come back with a review on how my BL17 sound.
They sound good and I would recommend these speakers to anyone. But ...
I already tried but didn't manage: to switch left/right on the speakers. It appeared that somehow they have a pre-assigned postition? Even at set-up I had to change the speakers from stand to stand to match left and right.
Overall I am very happy with my speakers. As I have said before it was the product that I needed for the money that I wanted to spend on it. I like it to have a speaker that looks nice as well - but this is obviously a personal opninion.
And something completely different: today my 8m old son discovered that he can see himself in the BV10
Have a good weekend!
I have my beolab 17s connected via line out to a pre-amp section on my tv and i love them, the sound they project in my room is like no speaker I've owned before and I've owned many.
the depth range, output and bass capability is beyond words and there just so clear and revealing. I listen to r'n'b, reggae, hip-hop and they perform amazingly with clear highs and deep bass.
I would describe the 17s as warm sounding and they just make me smile when whenever i listen to them. on volume 45 it's like a party in my room, I highly recommend them.
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