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Marcello Posted: Wed, May 14 2014 2:11 PM

After having spoken to a couple of dealers, this is news to me:

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The wording is incorrect...

With the BeoRemote one, you get 3 configurable "MyButtons".

For each of this button, you can configure a source, a speaker setting and a stand setting.

So button 1 can be spotify, in stereo, TV turned towards the left.

Button 2 can be Satellite, in 5.1, TV towards the sofa...

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mjmedlo replied on Wed, May 14 2014 2:40 PM
I do this currently with beo6, nothing new
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Mikael replied on Wed, May 14 2014 2:44 PM

The way you do it is new, and the most important thing.

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Raeuber replied on Wed, May 14 2014 2:57 PM
You have more than three options for the motorstand, see page 22 of the manual:

VIDEO, AUDIO, STANDBY and some more individual positions (don't know how many).

These stored positions have directly nothing to do with the three individual buttons of BeoRemote One.

I don't know how you can select the individual stand settings woth BeoRemote One. Probably with STAND and then 1,2,3...

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Marcello replied on Wed, May 14 2014 2:58 PM

PhilLondon:

The wording is incorrect...

That's what I knew from previous demonstrations. But B&O should be more careful. A less informed individual might be misdirected by the statement, considering it comes from an official B&O account.

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Marcello:
But B&O should be more careful.

I think so as well, but they've very often said their TVs turn towards you... except they don't turn toward you they turn towards where you want with the remote.

They have also said their Beosound 5 was ready for airplay, what actually they meant it had an audio IN connection where you can plug an airport express!

Also, the advertise their Beocom 5 as an internet phone, making you believe it is an IP phone, it's not, it simply has 2 lines, and you can connect an IP box which converts the signal to a standard phone connection to the line 2 (or line 1) of the phone.

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Sal replied on Wed, May 14 2014 3:10 PM

This is all marketing speak. The television will turn towards you (as long as you have pre-programmed it to do so knowing where you will be seated, etc).

The "ready for airplay" to me is much more egregious.

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Well, the wording could be more correct, but the function actually is so.

Three buttons for three favorite sorces, settings etc.

'Turns to you' would mean, that you have made a favourite (MyButton) including the stand/the tv turning towards where you want it..

It's pretty simple - make your choice: the source, make the settings incliding speakers-, sound-, volume-, stand-...., hold one of the buttons for a couple of seconds.....

.....and next time you push that button 'the tv turns to you' ---- if you are in the right place Stick out tongue

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Raeuber replied on Wed, May 14 2014 3:32 PM
Millemissen:

Well, the wording could be more correct, but the function actually is so.

Three buttons for three favorite sorces, settings etc.

'Turns to you' would mean, that you have made a favourite (MyButton) including the stand/the tv turning towards where you want it..

It's pretty simple - make your choice: the source, make the settings incliding speakers-, sound-, volume-, stand-...., hold one of the buttons for a couple of seconds.....

.....and next time you push that button 'the tv turns to you' ---- if you are in the right place

MM

There is a tv - and there is a BV.

Maybe this works too, but normally there is no need to use one of the three MyButtons to turn the Avant to your favourite position. Just store your viewing position under VIDEO and the Avant will turn to this position when you switch it on to any video source (same with BV 7/10).

With the Avant you have additionally the option to store different motorstand positions to different sources and get access to these positions with the MyButtons. But who is watching TV from another chair than watching a video from a Bluray/DVD or Apple TV??

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Raeuber:

 But who is watching TV from another chair than watching a video from a Bluray/DVD or Apple TV??

@RäuberSmile

You must think 'new'!

That the Avant can turn to different positions is nothing new - that is s  it was for decades.

 

The three MyButtons could be used - as an example - like this:

1: turn on the tv with the news programme, you watch every day - with the sound coming from the Avant itself (no external speaker), at the prefered volume for this program, at a stand position so that even your wife can see the picture from the kitchen Embarrassed.

2: turn on the tv with a (PUC) connected CD player - with the tv in neutral position, only the external/front speakers turned on with settings: volume preferred, no loudness, no 'interfering' from the TrueImage engine (1:1) and more...., the tv turning against your prefered listening chair.

3: turn on the tv to hear a (preferred) late night radio programme, sitting in your comfortable chair near the 'rear' speakers with these as the main/front speakers only and with low volume and loudness on...the tv not moved from the neutral position.

I know - there are only three buttons. But as inspiration.....

4: you have a set of speakers located in the kitchen (near the room with the Avant) connected to the Avant, and you want to use Spotify from your iDevice there - only this speakers group turns on with the sound setting you would prefer in that case. The Avant doesn't move (if you don't want to!).

5: you want to watch a movie from the (PUC) connected Bluray player - make your (sound) settings as you like it in that case.....the tv turning against the couch with you, your wife and the grandchildren 👴👵 👫

Voilá

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Sal replied on Wed, May 14 2014 4:38 PM

Raeuber:

But who is watching TV from another chair than watching a video from a Bluray/DVD or Apple TV??

This function would be very useful to quite a few folks I think. My wife and I love to have the news on when we're at the dining room table while we're eating, then it would be in another position when we're on the sofa. Both times, the television is still on Video, so the functionality of not tying the source to the stand positions is a valuable one. Since the television can turn to three different positions or scenes, independent of whatever source is selected.

Or maybe I just don't get it. lol

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Raeuber replied on Wed, May 14 2014 4:42 PM
Hi MM,

regarding the stand positions and assuming you can store 9 individual settings, you have access to 15 positions: 9 individual, 3 MyButtons and VIDEO, AUDIO and STANDBY.

So if you and your wife have 13 children, everyone has it's own motorstand position.

That's really 'new thinking'! 😃

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Raeuber replied on Wed, May 14 2014 4:46 PM
Sal:

Since the television can turn to three different positions or scenes, independent of whatever source is selected.

No, the selected source is also stored on the MyButtons.

Funny discussion at all...
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You make a 'snapshot' of what you are seeing/hearing (the source) with all settings - incl the angle to which you have turned it.

That 'snapshot' can be saved to one of the three buttons - in order to turn on the Avant to exactly that settings again with the push of only one button.

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Sal replied on Wed, May 14 2014 5:10 PM

Millemissen:

You make a 'snapshot' of what you are seeing/hearing (the source) with all settings - incl the angle to which you have turned it.

That 'snapshot' can be saved to one of the three buttons - in order to turn on the Avant to exactly that settings again with the push of only one button.

MM

Yes, so if I'm understanding correctly, you can have the television turn to two different positions which can display the same "source" therefore effectively, three "scenes" with multiple positions even though sources are a part of the scenes.

For example, position 1 = Video; position 2 = Video; Position 3 = Music

Positions 1 and 2 have the same source attached, but the television can turn to different positions.

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The MyButtons are not intended just to choose a (or rather three) different stand position(s) - unless you prefer to use them as such.

You have a lot more possibilities if you 'play' a little with these three new buttons.

Normally you would just go to 'List', choose 'Stand' and one of your prefered positions (if you have made some) iwhen you need a different position than the one you have registred default to 'Video'.

P.S. @ sal - you could use them in the way you described.

But you would return to the same tv program as was on when you saved the settings to one of the buttons, every time you push the button.

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Sal replied on Wed, May 14 2014 5:41 PM

It seems that the AVANT / Stand / BeoRemote One is a lot more customizable, focusing on the user. Which is always a good thing. 

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Raeuber replied on Wed, May 14 2014 5:57 PM
But you have to consider that the three MyButtons only work if the Avant is not in standby and a source is selected (see page 51 of the manual). That means you can't start the Avant by pressing one of the MyButtons. That's a sad restriction!
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I don't read that on page 51.

It would be absurd, if it was so!

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Raeuber replied on Wed, May 14 2014 6:52 PM
Millemissen:

I don't read that on page 51.

It would be absurd, if it was so!

MM

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Page 51:

'You can save up to three snapshots which can be activated by three dedicated remote control buttons. The television must be switched on and a source must be selected.'

So these three buttons are not a feature but only a gimmick!
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Sal replied on Wed, May 14 2014 6:55 PM

Someone needs to rush to their local dealer and try this out now! Stick out tongue

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Raeuber:
Page 51:

'You can save up to three snapshots which can be activated by three dedicated remote control buttons. The television must be switched on and a source must be selected.'

So these three buttons are not a feature but only a gimmick!

The way I read it... you need the TV on to SAVE the configuration, not to call it.

 

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Raeuber replied on Wed, May 14 2014 6:59 PM
Sal:

Someone needs to rush to their local dealer and try this out now!

Already done! 😜
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Raeuber replied on Wed, May 14 2014 7:02 PM
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Relax... you need the TV on to SAVE the configuration, not to call it.

Hope you are right, but I'm not sure! For SAVING this shouldn't have been mentioned because obviously clear.

So let's all buy an Avant for discussing all features better! 😀
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If the Avant was not on, there would be no settings to be saved!

Except for 'being off' Crying

 

@Räuber - who will be the first?

 

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Raeuber:
The television must be switched on and a source must be selected

Don't you think this part of the sentence is strange as well... how can you have the TV on, but on selected source!

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Actually there are different ways to use these three buttons.

What we have discussed 'till now is how you save a current set of settings (what I called a 'snapshot') and use it.

Another way is to make a configuration using the display to pick what you want them to do (then the tv can be/should be off).

If you use the One with a Beo4 product, these buttons work (per default) as the three buttons in the second row on the Beo4.

This is described in the userguide.

 

Unfortunately that userguide is not online yet - but I have 'come across' a danish version.

This remote is actually a very advanced piece of hardware.

Sorry for getting off-topic.

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Millemissen:
Unfortunately that userguide is not online yet - but I have 'come across' a danish version.

Here it is.

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Thanks 👍

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Raeuber replied on Wed, May 14 2014 10:53 PM
Millemissen:

@Räuber - who will be the first?

I would be the first, but I have to wait for this:

http://www.pcgameshardware.de/Fernseher-Hardware-134500/News/Sky-testet-erfolgreich-4k-Live-Uebertragung-bei-einem-Fussballspiel-1120104/

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StUrrock replied on Wed, May 14 2014 11:58 PM
Is this the most pointless thread ever on this forum?
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The Avant 'points less' at you Big Smile

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Flappo replied on Thu, May 15 2014 6:42 PM

it's probably got a heat seeker for your wallet

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Simonbeo replied on Thu, May 15 2014 7:10 PM

I was told last week that its very reasonable on the wallet. But the margins are on the speakers as opposed to TV .

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elephant replied on Sat, May 17 2014 1:33 AM

Millemissen:

the couch with you, your wife and the grandchildren 👴👵 👫

cute - very cute

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