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This is the second Archived Forum which was active between 1st March 2012 and 23rd February 2022
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@olvisab
You want a replacement for the BeoVision 4.
Make an Email to Bang & Olufsen's customer service;
write your wishes.
Bang & Olufsen should release a new minimalist TV.
A single black glass screen without speakers.
The screen is connected to Beosystem 4.
Like this... Philips Design Line edition 2013.
The Artist was Miya Ando who painted 20 BeoLab 12.3.
Just imagine what a 'screen-only' BSys4 based tv with an external centerspeaker and 2 external frontspeakers would cost today.
I am not sure there would be a market for that.
And we would need new external center speaker as well - or a new edition of the BL7-4/BL10.
Or maybe a 'screen-only' version with a re-designed BL7-6
And how would you combine an external center speaker with the new stand?
Maybe that 'tv' should come only in a wall-hanged version?
'Many already have speakers', someone wrote - I am sure B&O is not willing to take the risk of producing
a 'screen-only tv' just to please these costumers.
How much would you be willing to pay for that version - by the way?
This may be a pious hope - but surely nothing to keep the wheels of B&O rolling.
My best advice for BeoBoy68/olvisab - buy the damn Philips tv and a BeoSystem 4 - and re-use your existing speakers...
....I wonder where you'll place the center speaker
MM
There is a tv - and there is a BV
"Or maybe a 'screen-only' version with a re-designed BL7-6"
I vote for this.
You seem to consider the avant is perfect but I don't think so.
Sales figures will say.
Without the central speakers let's say 800/1000 euros less.
Whatever my choice the beolab 7.2 will be on its wall mount under the screen.
Nothing strange as it is the usual set up for a beovision 7 on a wall.
what is the price of the bs4 and can it be used with any other screen
The BSys4 can certainly be used with a non-B&O tv.
There was something about that in a thread (?) recently on the forum.
The BeoSystem 4 cost DK 28.000 (€ 3.800).
It can be used with some other TVs.
@ Millemissen
There is market for High End TV screen.
The BeoVision 4 saled very well in the past.
I am sure, Bang & Olufsen will launch a TV screen.
Not everyone want a TV with all included.
BeoBoy68: I am sure, Bang & Olufsen will launch a TV screen.
...and some new external center speakers too???
Actually I think there are a number of B&O customers who probably do want the whole package. If you have existing equipment, for example speakers, then you simply extend and build your system further, 5.1/7.1 surround for example. That's how I see it anyhow.
B&O products are V1-32, BS2, H95, E8 and an Essence remote.11-46 now replaced with Sony A90J 65”, Sony HT-A9, Sony UBP-X800M2 and Sony SRS-NS7.
They can rebuild him ... they have the technology
I was so close to buying the DesignLine TV but when I saw a demo and saw the picture... Erm!!! Also, having had B&O is a funny old thing, no matter how hard I may 'try' at times to look elsewhere, I always... ALWAYS end up coming back! And I am so pleased I do. B&O are just great, really. I honestly don't believe they have any rivals and I love their ethos and concept. Who wants lots of remotes, sub par designs and plastic builds with no magic? Not me!
olvisab: They can rebuild him ... they have the technology
LOL Thanks! Always loved The Bionic Man (or The Six Million Dollar Man) as a kid and being a B&O lover too, well they kind of go together!
The Beonic Man:LOL Thanks! Always loved The Bionic Man (or The Six Million Dollar Man) as a kid and being a B&O lover too, well they kind of go together!We can rebuild him...we have the technology.
Chris Townsend: All in a relatively small footprint.
Small footprint but Chris you must never have lifted one or tried to get your arms around enough to attempt to move a classic (have to differentiate ) Avant, they are huge !
Ovislab, good idea !
BeoBoy68:The Artist was Miya Ando who painted 20 BeoLab 12.3.
Anyone got a pair ?
I remember seeing someone selling them on Beoworld ?
After having read these last postings, I still have one question:
Why are you guys so keen on getting an 'Avant' without the speakers?
Is it because you think that it would be cheaper, and you would be able to keep your current center speaker (or your BL7-*)?
Or because you don't like the looks of the Avant speakers (or the magic movement)?
Or because you think that your current tv speaker is a more capable speaker than what is built into the Avant?
Or do you simply concider the built-in speakers bad?
Please give me some/your reasons.
That is a statement!
I understand that you are questioning a great deal of the work done by the acoustic department in Struer during the last couple of years.
However I am in love with the beolab 20.
The price just annoys me
And where is the center speaker of your 'monitor-only' Avant?
BeoBoy68:@olvisab The price of the BeoLab 20 is a bargain. For the price of 2x BeoLab 5 you can create a surround system with 4x BeoLab 20.
olvisab:You own and I owned a bv 7 and the bv 7 doesn't come with speakers. Why should I change for a lg and why you won't abandon the bl 7.6 that you seem to love so much ? Why there wouldn't be another option ? A beovision is much more than a central speaker. How many people are watching their tv with stereo speakers only? Much more than those who own a whole 5.1 system in particular if the tv is not in the main room. If you look to the competition, nearly 100percent of the tv are stereo. If the selling price is so important actually. They should do this, that´s logical. B&o fans who already owns a pair of beolab 8000, 6000, 4000 ... will still enjoy their new avant without a central speaker built in. The avant on the stand is amazing , ok but that doesn't mean the avant won't be wall mounted by some buyers, even with no electrical wall mount when they will be available. Not using this magic floor stand removes something but the new avant still remains sexy for buyers. This is the same principle with the question of the central speaker. For the first time, b&o gives us a great liberty for using the speakers (wired or wireless, rear or front, multiple combination) and the tv will stay bound to its central speaker ? beosound 5/BM5 , beosystème 4500 , beolab 1, beolab 3, beolab 7.2, beolab 5000, beolab 14, beolab 3500, beovision av 9000, IWS 2000, beotime, MLGW
Chris Townsend:Personally I've never got the point of a Beovision without speakers, as it is the combination stand, speakers and in our case a Bluray player that makes them utterly unique.
Agreed.
Bv7Mk3: If B&O did a Avant 40" that would fit in my bedroom.. I'd be sold. At the mo I have a Bv 32 with 4000 Center and four 6000's. The 40" would be as big as I could go!
If B&O did a Avant 40" that would fit in my bedroom.. I'd be sold.
At the mo I have a Bv 32 with 4000 Center and four 6000's. The 40" would be as big as I could go!
I guess that 4K resolution for a 40" screen would be a bit 'overkill'.
In that size Full HD is enough. I doubt anyone could see the difference.
But maybe a cheaper 'only Full HD' Avant in 40"...
I really don't understand why people want the Avant without speakers. This newly constructed model is precisely designed with front and center speakers to be always correctly positioned at you and thus fully enjoy the sound, no matter where you're seating position is in the room. Is that not one of the intentions of this Avant with base and included speakers.
"Believe nothing you read and only half of what you see, let your ears tell you the truth."
Barry Santini:Well...an Avant 75 or 85 should at least have the option of a center Chanel that would ideally complement a pair Of BL20s and even the forthcoming BL5 successor. B
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It has 'a center channel' - it's up to you to configure the speakers as a center channel (if you have the BL20's as fronts as well).
Might it be that we don't agree on that subject?
We have got the Avant as a complete tv - we'll see if you will ever get it without the speakers.