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Hiya Guys
I know the new avant has so many speaker roles/groups setup but can a projector be connected to it as a second display like we can on the BV7 MK3
someone mentioned Atlona Hardware
suggestions and advice will be greatly appreciated
I haven´t seen anything about this in the manual. There is no special connection for projector. So I guess the answer is no, unless somebody can verify there is a possibility.
they must be an answer to this even with additional hardware
is anyone using Atlona ? how does this work?
Since there is no HDMI-out accessable (like on the standalone BSys4) you can't add a switch in order to 'double' the output.
No cinema setup with the Avant!
The big question is - will B&O ever again make a tv (like the BV12) with an external BeoSystem for those who want a tv and a projector/big screen solution (aka Cinema Solution)?
MM
There is a tv - and there is a BV
He is using a Altona switch which can be control by his beovision 11, so why not avant?
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Hi emilos,
please explain how you are watching your (BV11-) tv stations on the big screen through the projector.
I use my Panasonic Blu-ray DVB-C recordere, or my sat receiver ;)
It is endless with possibilities in that way. I do have a projector but have never, or had the need for seeing tv on it. I watch Blu-Ray, or play playstation on it.
That is not a classic B&O 'Cinema Solution'.
It is a workaround, that 'doubles' the video-output from your connected sources - with the sound played through your B&O setup.
Would be exactly the same on an Avant.
P.S. Nice setup you have :-)
Not my setup I wish it was,
I currently have a very non traditional setup with a playmaker two beolab 3 and a beolab 19, with a projector hooked up.
Allright - since you had posted that link, I thought it was your setup.
(I see now, that you have removed the link!).
I thought you could use a switcher and change display to projector and then P MUTE on Beo4
In the mentioned setup you must use a switch to double the output (the first one to tv and the second to projector) of the external sources.
The sound of these sources comes from the tv (and the connected speakers).
When you use the projector, you mute the tv-picture.
With the original 'Cinema Solution' the picture from the complete sources of the tv (incl all connected) were 'drawn' from the HDMI/DVI output of the tv and send to the projector.
so does that mean cinema setup could be achieved on the new avant?
Have a look at this post. Would be possible with the Atlona
http://archivedforum2.beoworld.org/forums/t/10509.aspx
You can have a cinema setup with the Avant. You can set the speakers to perform various roles, making it possible to "rotate" the sound the same way the BS3 did it. The main usage of the projector will typically be based on sources that can deliver 1080p, such as a bluray player and/or an Apple TV to deliver Netflix. As these devices are external, they do of course come with HDMI out and you can simply route the signal to both the Avant and the projector. Picture mute will have to be activated on the TV each time. If you use the BeoRemote One you can not control 3. party devices directly (as with the Beo6), nor can you program a macro to make the transition from TV to Cinema mode as smooth as on a BS3-based system.
But, and there is a big but, the Altona solution is a very expensive one (unless you actually plan on distributing these sources over your beolink-network using cat5/7 - then you might justify it, I guess). The box I have looked at is roughly 20.000 kroner.
Have anyone tried to just split the signal from the source, or will this give you severe sync issues between picture and sound?
Roger
As an Oppo owner (who is comfortable that Panasonic is no threat to their supremacy), the 103 or better is a great option for a reasonable cinema alternative without the Atlona matrix or BeoSystem 4. Because it has 2 HDMI outputs there should be minimal processing delay between the Avant (or other TV) and a projector. If there is, the Oppo has a digital delay option built in. Because there are 2 HDMI inputs, you can conceivably run an ATV and a STB into the Oppo and use the Oppo app any time when using the projector.
The Atlona Matrix is purpose built for extending multiple sources to multiple players, as noted earlier. That is a huge investment for a person who merely wants to use a TV with a projector.
For the single B&O video system, I would use the Oppo and PMUTE and not think twice about what it would take for B&O to put Cinema Mode into a non BS4 kit.
Hi Roger
You say the Atlona solution is very expensive
Don't we just need an HDMI splitter?
or HDMI In and OUT box
Hi,
Yes, but my concern are sync issues. To simply buy the Oppo 103 or 105 is a very tempting solution, as it comes with two HDMI out (see the second last post). But any experiences with a HDMI splitter and B&O surround sound and image to projector is very tempting.
If you want several HDMI sources on your BV AND the projector you will need a matrix.
Using a 4x2 matrix lets you select one input (source) to both outputs simultaneously. Output 1 to BV for audio and output 2 to projector for picture.
As I heard from the other side of the world, from the NBHs (non Beo Humans) there are no sync problems at all.
I`m planning to order two or three HDMI matrixes for testing with my Beo setup.
Stefan
This is what to use, as I understand it. The Beosystem 4 platform have a PUC for control if I was told correctly.
Altona
Only 450$
so i could get a 4x2 matrix to connect to the new avant in order to watch sky channels and blue ray videos on the projector and all this could be controlled by the Beoremote one or the BEO 5
Stefan which brand is the matrix you are getting if its not Atlona
Hiya guys
Please advise what brand of matrix are you using
Thanks
symmes: As an Oppo owner (who is comfortable that Panasonic is no threat to their supremacy), the 103 or better is a great option for a reasonable cinema alternative without the Atlona matrix or BeoSystem 4. Because it has 2 HDMI outputs there should be minimal processing delay between the Avant (or other TV) and a projector. If there is, the Oppo has a digital delay option built in. Because there are 2 HDMI inputs, you can conceivably run an ATV and a STB into the Oppo and use the Oppo app any time when using the projector. The Atlona Matrix is purpose built for extending multiple sources to multiple players, as noted earlier. That is a huge investment for a person who merely wants to use a TV with a projector. For the single B&O video system, I would use the Oppo and PMUTE and not think twice about what it would take for B&O to put Cinema Mode into a non BS4 kit.
It is important to note that the oppo only does image processing on the main hdmi out put. But I agree this is better than nothing. There is also HDMI splitters.
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Michael: It is important to note that the oppo only does image processing on the main hdmi out put. But I agree this is better than nothing. There is also HDMI splitters.
Means - if you use the projector much to watch from the OPPO, you should use the main output for that.
And let the Avant do the processing on the signal from the other one, when you 'only' use the tv.
The audio will - in any case - go through the Avant.
Or you switch them around if you use both 'monitors' equally.
Was thining of getting an oppo but 4k Blueray is on its way,so going to wait.
The Oppo has very good reviews but I am looking at Sky and blurays to be displayed on the projector
I may also look at Apple tv so in fact i will need a matrix to do that.
I have googled and found few brands with variation in prices ,Atlona seems to be the one mentioned, has anyone have experience with other brands like Gefen
The Oppo 103 / 105 have 2 HDMI in slots (one on the front and one on the back) so could connect your Sky and ATV to the oppo.
Hello Stefen
Have you tried HDMI Matrixes yet?
If so love to have your thoughts
so if you have an oppo 103 you could set it up so that blue rays and sky could be viewed on a projector or avant?
Bv7Mk3: Was thining of getting an oppo but 4k Blueray is on its way,so going to wait.
Definitely not 'on it's way' soon. It won't be here for a long while yet, if at all (http://www.digitaltrends.com/home-theater/streaming-disc-dead-video-blu-ray/). I think manufacturers are worried that physical discs are on a quick decline (down 40%), and the market for 4K Blu-ray is tiny (ie. a small percentage of 4K TV owners, which is also small), so the demand doesn't justify the investment - Sony has gone down the streaming media player route, instead.
We won't see 4K Blu-ray this year and, even if we do, the players will be priced at a premium.
Just get an Oppo and upscale 1080P. It still looks superb on a 4K TV. Proper 4K will only be marginally better than an upscaled 1080P picture.
quader: Hello Stefen Have you tried HDMI Matrixes yet? If so love to have your thoughts
Sorry - didn`t notice your question...
No - too much work right now. But I did some "pre tests" - testing IR-control via long (25m, 75 feet) cat6 cable controlling a Lintronic box placed near the main BV (BV7) . The Lintronic box shall be controled from two Link BVs using the Scart solution. Works better than expected...
And I found two matrixes that could be worth to test: Ligawo (4x2 and 4x4) and my favourite Octava (4x2 and 4x4). But I didn`t order them yet.
I will come back with results pretty soon (?)... I hope.
well i have ordered the new avant and waiting delivery and also got the atlona matrix 4x2
could you guys help on the format 0 as i seem to have lost my projector viewing of sky and ps3
quader: well i have ordered the new avant and waiting delivery and also got the atlona matrix 4x2 could you guys help on the format 0 as i seem to have lost my projector viewing of sky and ps3
Is the Atlona meant to distribute to your projector from the avant or...? I did not think that was possible. Please keep us posted how that works for you.
/Kim
Smallest HDMI matrix Atlona makes is a 4x4 matrix. There are two different versions.
But Atlona has a 4x2 switch (...V42 ?) with two mirrored outputs that switches to four HDMI inputs.
would be interesting to know if the Avant`s software supports the cinema feature, what means, to be able to control an Atlona switch, a projector, external devices and Beo functions like picture mute, stand turns to standby position, speaker mode 5 activation...
In that setup video sources that shall be switched to your projector must be connected to the Atlona switch - output of the Atlona will be directly connected to the projector (and the Avant ofcourse). So I think, you will loose the display information (source, vol. level..) on the screen when cinema function is activated.
Please get back when your Avant and Atlona are installed - I`m (and many other Beoworlders to, I think) very interested how this all works - thanks.
If my memory serves me well - there was a special SW for the System4, which gave some 'cinema functions'.
Probably something similar will be needed for the Avant - if possible at all.
This guy is using it with his BV11, so I guess the Avant have the software too.
http://www.hifigalleri.dk/galleri/11196-hjemmebiograf_bo_9_2_hjemmebio
That is a sofisticated setup - but not a 'cinema setup'.
He is using a MacMini (as source for video), a projector and the speakers connected to the BV11.
And some kind of 'home automation' to control light, projector and screen.
I'll have to search for his presentation on the danish Hifi4All forum to remember exactly how he made it.
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The SW I mentioned, was not available for the BV11 - as far as I remember it - and only through a B&O technician.
One of the dealers on the forum must know more about this!
Well guys I had my avant installed and the atlona connected just waiting for B&O installers to return and finish off,i will get my Beo5 programmed to perform the cinema function
at the moment you are right Stefan i am getting 2 pictures (tv and projector) through the 4x2 matrix and then with picture mute i acn watch the projector all looking good in that respect.
i also need yo utilise all the speakers in the setup using the speaker roles assocaited with the avant which initial signs are lot better than what i had on the BV7 mk3
not happy with the picture quality of the avant,SD programmes are definitely poor and certain HD programmes are not as sharp as i thought they might be not sure if they need to tweak the sky box for this
will revert with info later