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Home Media on BV-11 and navigating trough DVD and/or MKV files

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sq2002 Posted: Wed, Jun 18 2014 10:10 AM

Just recieved my new BV-11, and have connected my Synology NAS. When I start an DVD or MKV file, how can I navigate through the menu for settings like subtitles, audiio, chapters etc ?

Can anyone help me with this ? I already see that the "normal" DVD files can not run straight away. If I go to the VIDEO_TS map, I can not start the menu. So I tried to convert this to an MKV file with handbreak. The MKV file starts without problem, but can not find or start the menu. Are there some "hidden" buttons on the BEO4 or BEO6 ? Or should I convert to some other file ?


Thanks.


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KMA replied on Wed, Jun 18 2014 12:57 PM
MKV files do not contain the DVD menus, MKV is just a video file with audio. So they do not contain subtitles by default either.

Handbrake allows subtitles and one audio type to be embedded in the video (one language, subtitles and audio cannot be changed afterwards), this might be the easiest option with BV's built-in media player.

https://trac.handbrake.fr/wiki/Subtitles

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sq2002 replied on Wed, Jun 18 2014 2:03 PM

Thanks.

And in the MKV file you also can not select chapters, right ?

Any other ideas for file format that I could use with BV's built in media player, to get the best possible quality and use of menu's ?

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I have plenty of mkv files containing chapters, several subtitles and audio tracks. So they can contain this stuff.

I don't think the BV can handle that stuff though. (But I don't own one, so I don't know)

But I'm sure someone here must know this!

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KMA replied on Wed, Jun 18 2014 2:39 PM
crossbytje:

I have plenty of mkv files containing chapters, several subtitles and audio tracks. So they can contain this stuff.

I don't think the BV can handle that stuff though. (But I don't own one, so I don't know)

But I'm sure someone here must know this!

Really? I wonder what software is used in the making of this kind of MKVs. I'd like to know this as well (for playback with PLEX on my jailbroken Apple TV).

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I have no idea how they were made. They contain ripped blu-ray movies.

I'm using xbmc on an old macbook. I can select different subtitle languages and sometimes different audiotracks, dubbed language or directors comments etc. These are definitely in the mkv, because when no such options are available, xbmc offers to search the net for subtitles.

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A quick google search points towards ways of creating such files. Youtube has some videos too.

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BeoGreg replied on Wed, Jun 18 2014 3:02 PM
My neighbor gives me series on my hdd that are MKV files.

I can select the language (french/english) and subtitles on/off.

I just press menu on the remote and I get a list under "sources" and "settings" including "audio" and "subtitles".

But I can't tell how my neighbor is doing.
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Chris replied on Wed, Jun 18 2014 3:18 PM

sq2002:

Just recieved my new BV-11, and have connected my Synology NAS. When I start an DVD or MKV file, how can I navigate through the menu for settings like subtitles, audiio, chapters etc ?

Can anyone help me with this ? I already see that the "normal" DVD files can not run straight away. If I go to the VIDEO_TS map, I can not start the menu. So I tried to convert this to an MKV file with handbreak. The MKV file starts without problem, but can not find or start the menu. Are there some "hidden" buttons on the BEO4 or BEO6 ? Or should I convert to some other file ?


Thanks.


A very good program to convert files into any another format is Handbrake (as mentioned) or Aimersoft Video Converter. With Handbrake you also can add external subtitles (srt files), and hard burne those in the file or not. I myself use Aimersoft Video Converter Ultimate mostly because its easier for any format: avi, video_ts.... and subtitle. Just drag the file(s) into the window and it convert to the predefined format. Difference between the two programs, Handbrake is free, Aimersoft cost you $54.95 for a license.

Video_TS is the DVD file format, MKV is a compressed file. You will not find a 'menu' as it plays from a DVD on this file. BeoGreg answered your question about where to find your BV 'menu'.

I prefer Aimersoft...

 

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KMA replied on Wed, Jun 18 2014 3:24 PM
crossbytje:

A quick google search points towards ways of creating such files. Youtube has some videos too.

I'll look into this. The MKV files I have are accompanied by subtitles in a separate folder (which can be selected from PLEX). There's also only one audio type available (again, as PLEX sees it). If it's 5.1, PLEX / Apple TV / BV11 (?) downsamples it for 2.1 stereo plaback, as I'm only using the BV11 speakers with a BL11.

I'd really like a robust wireless NAS server to use with BV11, and ditch the use of PLEX, which requires that my Mac Mini is running.

Is there a wireless NAS server recommendation for the newer Beovisions? Or does anyone have favorable experiences with NAS makes/models to recommend?

EDIT: the NAS does not necessarily need to be wireless, if it's powerful and fast enough to stream files to BV11 through my existing wireless network router. At least LaCie's and Seagate's "home NAS solutions" lack in throughput speed and server power.

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I am actually concidering replacing my (older) Synology NAS with a/a second MacMini just for 'serving purposes'.

You need a powerfull NAS to do video- and audiostreaming. Sometimes transcoding (on the fly) is needed - for that a MacMini would be the better choice. And you can easily install different kinds of programs on it. Doing that on a NAS often requires knowledge of how Linux works and can be a bit nerdy.

A modern NAS is only the better choice, if you need to store a lot of files and/or you (for security) want to run the drives in raid mode.

My recent NAS is louder than a MacMini  Huh?

But I guess it really depends on how you want to use a NAS/a server - so these are only comments from my point of view.

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KMA replied on Wed, Jun 18 2014 4:55 PM
Millemissen:

I am actually concidering replacing my (older) Synology NAS with a/a second MacMini just for 'serving purposes'.

You need a powerfull NAS to do video- and audiostreaming. Sometimes transcoding (on the fly) is needed - for that a MacMini would be the better choice. And you can easily install different kinds of programs on it. Doing that on a NAS often requires knowledge of how Linux works and can be a bit nerdy.

A modern NAS is only the better choice, if you need to store a lot of files and/or you (for security) want to run the drives in raid mode.

My recent NAS is louder than a MacMini

But I guess it really depends on how you want to use a NAS/a server - so these are only comments from my point of view.

MM

There is a tv - and there is a BV.

Hmm... Maybe I'd better stick with Mac Mini then. The videos are on external ThunderBolt drive anyway. This has been working perfectly with Apple TV & PLEX, and BV11 works with the PLEX server too, even though I'm not sure it's the best server software choice...

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KMA:
....even though I'm not sure it's the best server software choice...

That is exactly my point.

It is easy to try new/different SW out on a MacMini - not very easy on a NAS.

In some cases the combination of a MacMini and a small NAS as fileserver (!) -  instead of the external harddrive - could be the right choice.

 

N.B. It could be a small (silent) Windows pc too - for those who are not into Mac.

 

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