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Millemissen: Did I write that, did I??? Please don't put something into my words, that was not there. MM
Did I write that, did I???
Please don't put something into my words, that was not there.
MM
So why do I need to "remember that iDevices don't support aptX."?
Ban boring signatures!
Because owners of iDevices would not benefit from aptX (if there is any benefit).
To them it is more a theoretical discussion.
There is a tv - and there is a BV
Millemissen: Rombeek: Peter the Biker, what do you mean by "The device to connect the beovision 8 and the moment to my beolab 9s" ? How should the moment be connected to a BV 7 mk3 with Beolab 8000s ? Of course I should have let Peter - or his dealer - answer that question, but.... .... this can be achieved with the NL/ML converter - just like with any other integration of NL and ML products. MM
Rombeek: Peter the Biker, what do you mean by "The device to connect the beovision 8 and the moment to my beolab 9s" ? How should the moment be connected to a BV 7 mk3 with Beolab 8000s ?
Peter the Biker, what do you mean by "The device to connect the beovision 8 and the moment to my beolab 9s" ?
How should the moment be connected to a BV 7 mk3 with Beolab 8000s ?
Of course I should have let Peter - or his dealer - answer that question, but....
.... this can be achieved with the NL/ML converter - just like with any other integration of NL and ML products.
Peter Pan shows the solution in his thread
http://archivedforum2.beoworld.org/forums/t/444.aspx?PageIndex=2
The third post from the bottom of the page
It must be the BOSSCOM PL switch ...
Millemissen: Puncher: Quote from said article, "Could aptX offer better sound quality? Yes, ........................." Please don't read only the quote, that Puncher posted - read the article! MM
Puncher: Quote from said article, "Could aptX offer better sound quality? Yes, ........................."
Quote from said article, "Could aptX offer better sound quality? Yes, ........................."
Please don't read only the quote, that Puncher posted - read the article!
I did read the article (which actually said very little). He concluded that aptX "could" sound better, but the most important thing he said, which rendered the rest of the article moot was that he hadn't tested it!
It is a non-article!
Millemissen:Because owners of iDevices would not benefit from aptX (if there is any benefit). To them it is more a theoretical discussion. MM
Puncher: I did read the article (which actually said very little). He concluded that aptX "could" sound better, but the most important thing he said, which rendered the rest of the article moot was that he hadn't tested it! It is a non-article!
Well, I could bring this quote instead:
'Generally speaking, aptX seems to offer better sound quality over SBC, though how much depends largely on the gear and how it's implemented. It is possible, though, to get great-sounding gear without it, just by picking great-sounding gear in the first place.'
I have read the article a couple of times now - I can't find anything about 'not having tested it'
@Räuber
I don't need either of them on a Moment!!!
Let's wait and see, if someone has the answer to what is supported - no use to argue about this.
Peter the Biker: Millemissen: Rombeek: Peter the Biker, what do you mean by "The device to connect the beovision 8 and the moment to my beolab 9s" ? How should the moment be connected to a BV 7 mk3 with Beolab 8000s ? Of course I should have let Peter - or his dealer - answer that question, but.... .... this can be achieved with the NL/ML converter - just like with any other integration of NL and ML products. MM Peter Pan shows the solution in his thread http://archivedforum2.beoworld.org/forums/t/444.aspx?PageIndex=2 The third post from the bottom of the page It must be the BOSSCOM PL switch ...
Of course you can use that solution - it has been suggested in many situations.
I would not suggest it!
Millemissen: But they can't (or won't) tell you about the 'multiroom' capacities, because the software for this hasn't been finished yet. At time being you can use the Moment with it's own speakers, with a tv (as speakers) or with it's own speakers and 1 (!) tv in another room. As they write on the Moment subpage, the 'multiroom-thing' will be rolled out during the spring (and summer, I guess).
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I know - and it is simple.
The demo in Vegas - however - was fake.....At least partial.
They wanted to be sure, that it works, when showing it to the press.
As I have written before, the software hasn't been quite finished yet.
And that is the reason, why it won't be rolled out yet.
But that is exactly how it works - in it's simplest form.
Millemissen: Puncher: I did read the article (which actually said very little). He concluded that aptX "could" sound better, but the most important thing he said, which rendered the rest of the article moot was that he hadn't tested it! It is a non-article! Well, I could bring this quote instead: 'Generally speaking, aptX seems to offer better sound quality over SBC, though how much depends largely on the gear and how it's implemented. It is possible, though, to get great-sounding gear without it, just by picking great-sounding gear in the first place.' I have read the article a couple of times now - I can't find anything about 'not having tested it' MM
Here you go -
"The trick is testing the same pair of aptX-enabled headphones or speakers with two different phones, one with aptX, the other without, running the same audio files. To my knowledge, no one has done this. I'll certainly aim to do just that in a future article.............."
Thanks - i missed that part.
Interesting - if no one has done that yet, we can't be sure, that the aptX codecs is the better
Moment booked, my feedback will start next Saturday
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Just had email to say it's in store in Newcastle.
mbolo01: Moment booked, my feedback will start next Saturday
Looking forward to that!
What makes you think, that the Moment can't be integrated into your ML-setup?
Ok - that might depend on, whether you want to keep your existing audiomaster, or not?
But why do you think, that you'll have to wait untill summer to learn more about that?
Anyway - it won't bring you any Spotify/Spotify Connect.
If you mainly are interested in the Spotify Connect feature, you should consider adding a Gramofon to your existing audiomaster/line-in.
Puncher:Just had email to say it's in store in Newcastle. Ban boring signatures!
Beosound Stage, Beovision 8-40, Beolit 20, Beosound Explore.
Raeuber: But I will also have to wait until summer to realize if the Moment can be integrated in my Masterlink system with the NL/ML-converter, but I doubt. Last year I wanted to go for the Essence, but it cannot be integrated in a Masterlink system. I like the idea with Spotify Connect very much because an IPad would only work as a remote for the Essence and not for streaming. My dealer told me that there will be a software update for an integration with Masterlink. But this never happened, meanwhile an Essence Mk2 had been announced. So waiting again... In general I'm tired of waiting for software updates and also to add receivers or converters to get my system working. I only want to spent money to extend my existing B&O equipment. Regards Räuber
Millemissen:Today at my dealer MM works for the B&O propaganda squad and he does a great job. I want that combo.I can't buy it right now because we are looking for a one room bigger home but I think I'm ready to replace my BS 9000 / BL 8000 combo with that one. MM There is a tv - and there is a BV.
@BeoGreg
I don't work for B&O - at least they don't pay me for it 😉
You may call me an 'ambasador'!
I simply do, what I can - to help B&O survive and bloom.
@request from MM
Yesterday I collected the Moment from my dealer and installed it. For the moment the Moment can only be connected to one other NL product (or als stand alone). If one try to JOIN the Moment connected to one BV11 on the other BV11 or a BLC NL/ML, the later source simply turns off.
If the Moment is connected to a ML BV through a BLC NL/ML than the sound can be distributed to other rooms.
The installation is simple and straith forward
Multi room, Multi source should be available later this year.
Will post a picture later
Thanks Carolpa.
That you - at time being - only can connect to the Moment from one NL-BV, i did already know.
We will have to wait a couple of months for (much) more to come.
Your comment about the connection through the NL/ML Converter - however - could be very interesting to a lot of current B&O owners.
Looking forward to learn more about how to do this.
Carolpa:@request from MM Yesterday I collected the Moment from my dealer and installed it. For the moment the Moment can only be connected to one other NL product (or als stand alone). If one try to JOIN the Moment connected to one BV11 on the other BV11 or a BLC NL/ML, the later source simply turns off. If the Moment is connected to a ML BV through a BLC NL/ML than the sound can be distributed to other rooms. The installation is simple and straith forward Multi room, Multi source should be available later this year. Will post a picture later
Millemissen: Your comment about the connection through the NL/ML Converter - however - could be very interesting to a lot of current B&O owners. Looking forward to learn more about how to do this.
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beojeff:For access from a ML product, which beolink command do we use? Which Sources do we need to have available? For example, will there be a conflict if we already use CD, N.MUSIC, RADIO, or N.RADIO on a BeoSound 5?
That can be in principle all dependable of which are available on ML. F.e. if CD is used for a source it can't be used anymore.
This depends on how the BLC NL/ML is programmed
Raeuber: Yes, very interesting for me. I would like to connect a Moment to my BV 7-40 via ML/NL-converter and my questions are as follows: 1. Can you assign a hardkey or softkey (via LIST) on Beo4 to hear the sound of the Moment through Beolabs connected to BV 7? 2. If you press the assigned button on Beo4 will the Moment play music at once or must the Moment be switched on additionaly? 3. Is it possible to start playing music by only touching the wheel on the wooden top of the Moment? 4. Is it possible to connect the Moment if already an Audiomaster exists (BS 9000) that uses RADIO and CD button on Beo4? Answers are much appreciated. Regards Räuber
Yes, very interesting for me. I would like to connect a Moment to my BV 7-40 via ML/NL-converter and my questions are as follows:
1. Can you assign a hardkey or softkey (via LIST) on Beo4 to hear the sound of the Moment through Beolabs connected to BV 7?
3. Is it possible to start playing music by only touching the wheel on the wooden top of the Moment?
4. Is it possible to connect the Moment if already an Audiomaster exists (BS 9000) that uses RADIO and CD button on Beo4?
Answers are much appreciated.
1. Yes
2. Not sure but I would say YES. My BV11 starts when I give the command to play somthing.
3. Definitely YES
4. Not sure, but I would be surpriced that it is impossible depending of how 1 or maybe 2 BLC are programmed (I have 2 BLC one as ML V,Master with several ML products, BS5, BC6, BV6 and one as Source just with a BS3000 connected to it)
the colour is a Mood indication for this song
Mood circle / position of this song
TuneIn radio stations (Dutch)
the Soundheart
Note: this is not the final setup. First I have to get a new CAT7 cable
Carolpa: Raeuber: 2. If you press the assigned button on Beo4 will the Moment play music at once or must the Moment be switched on additionaly? @Räuber 2. Not sure but I would say YES. My BV11 starts when I give the command to play somthing.
Raeuber: 2. If you press the assigned button on Beo4 will the Moment play music at once or must the Moment be switched on additionaly?
2. If you press the assigned button on Beo4 will the Moment play music at once or must the Moment be switched on additionaly?
Connected to a NL-tv it is definitely a Yes. You don't have to do anything extra with the Moment.
I can't see why it should be different, if connected to a BV7 through the converter.
Could be just the photos but I notice the heavy fingerprint marks, very un-B&O!
Puncher: Could be just the photos but I notice the heavy fingerprint marks, very un-B&O!
Not much you can do with a touch screen!
what about a BMW I-drive type mouse instead of an iPad ? Would have avoided the fingerprints.
- Flere
smile and enjoy the moment
Simonbeo:Not much you can do with a touch screen!
How many would slavishly polish off fingerprints from the glass of their BC3000 orBC9000's, or the smoked glass of their beogram? Why is it acceptable on a tochscreen you may leave viewable on a stand?
Is a touchscreen really B&O, where's that extra mile?
They have gesture control (swiping) around the scrollwheel, why not non-contact gesture control for the whole surface? Anything to give a wow factor beyond a plain vanilla tablet!