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Hello all
for anyone who does not know I have been on a journey of soul searching with bang and olufsen over the last year, I sold my beocenter 9300 and beolink passive and moved over to control 4. Then I decided that in fact I want to move back to Bang and Olufsen as I just love the stuff.
One thing that probably moved me onto this path was the limitations of the beo4 and trying to use it in the dark to activate my cinema room etc and being unable to control my link rooms from the main room.
I understand now the new netlink gateway will give me more control over my system making it more user friendly in terms of multiroom control.
I have always been pretty stubborn in terms of moving away from the beo4 because I did not really like the beo5/6 but I am now worried that my stubbornness may have cost me a small fortune and I maybe would not have looked elsewhere if I had just tried a beo5 as when I moved away I did not like any other remote control.
With this in mind I am considering a beo6. Does the beo6 have to be programmed by a dealer only. I am 100% sure I would learn to program the remote with some reading and background and the right software. Were any dealers ever able to lend someone a remote for a test period as Milton Keynes is now closed down so I don't really have a local dealer.
Will I be able to control my bedroom beovision 3 for example to run the volume down from the lounge?
does this work the same as the navi? If so can a beovision 3 and beosound 4 be assigned a zone?
Any thoughts all.
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When I lived in bromham beds my dealer was in derngate Northampton marc the owner and his wife been dealers at least 30 years son now involved also go and see him sure he can help
malcolm welborn
I can only speak for the Beo5. I bought a Lintronic TT238 box as a remote control copier. It is some work to copy a third party remote control but I really like it! I can configure the Beo 5 with mixed setups on the same screen.This means for example:
- Volume wheel controls the Beovision- Play/Pause etc. controls the DVD-/BlurayplayerI don't need several different remotes as the Beo 5 controls every device that uses an infrared remote. The programming is a little challenge and experimentation. Beo 4 is simply too complicated for 3rd party control and so the goal is to achieve a programming on the remote that suits the needs of all family members and make it easy to use for all of us.Yes, the Beo 4 feels a little more comfortable in the hand but the Beo 5 is the workhorse in everyday life and suits our needs.I tried the Beoremote one, too but as nice as it looks: It's too narrow and feels to small.
I think it's a sign of good design that the Beo4 has had such a long life. It's a great, simple remote, but it's definitely time for an update. It sounds like the BeoRemote One IS this update, but B&O just needs to let us BUY it.
When I first got the Beo5/Beo6 I found myself still reaching for the Beo4 most of the time. However, with proper programming I've found that I nearly always reach of the Beo6 now. I recall in a MLGW instructional video that the presenter remarked that a good control interface JUST shows the user what he needs at that time. This was the case with the BeoLink 7000 and even the BeoSound Century -- only the relevant buttons were lit. This is what the Beo6 can do so well. You can arrange the buttons and screens in ways that make sense to you and your particular needs and use. You can even design the menu with the most-used buttons most accessible to your thumb, depending on whether you are right-handed or left-handed. This is why I think the programming software really should be available to the end user so we can design it to meet our needs.
Controlling my Philips Hue lights with the Beo6 (via MLGW) is beautiful. I've loaded icons on the Beo6 that show the relevant light scenes. I also added a convenient button to set the end table lamp to a proper light level for reading magazines, etc., while watching tv.
As another poster mentioned, the Beo6 is great when you have a Lintronic converter in your mix. You can properly label the buttons rather than having to remember which Beo4 buttons were matched with events.
While the zones are intended to refer to rooms in your home, you can really make a zone for anything you need with any products in it that you want. A particular zone just brings up a menu layout that you make to be specific to that zone.
The Beo6 can function like the navi control of the Beo4 Navi.
Hi there all
thank you for the replies
basically I want to test a beo6 and see if its what I want to use.
currently I am using a ML network and nothing else. I have silent gliss curtains and that is using my lintronic to fire out the commands. I believe the NAVI amd beo5/6 can control the curtains anyway which would be cool.
i would love to be able to turn down the tv in the bedroom without having to shut down the entire system. It would be wicked to control my cinema room and see the remote. I love my beo4 but I think you are right a beo6 programmed right would help me to try something new. The piece that is important for me is to be able to do it myself and learn how it works.
can you zone older masterlink products?
cheers all
You can do everything with a Beo5 / Beo6 as any other IR remote. Configuring the remotes is not that hard, it is a little bit trickier for non B&O remotes as you will need the IR codes in the correct format but absolutely doable.
The Beo5 / Beo6 is imho very underrated - probably due to the complexity. I have three and I would not trade them for any other remote.
My B&O products: Beosound 9000, Beosound 2300, Beosound Century, Beolab 8000, Beolab 6000, Beolab 4000 x2, Beolab 3500, Beolab 2000, Beolab 10, Beolink Active x2, Beotime, Beo5 x2, Beo4, A9 keyring x2, LC2 dimmer x6 and growing....
Personally speaking, I would not recommend a Beo5/6.
On the plus side, they are lovely to use and when programmed properly are very versatile. However, I never managed to get hold of a proper copy of the program, when we went back from a Beovision 7 to an old Avant all the old functionality disappeared and would have required me to make a £150 upgrade to the Avant which I was not prepared to do. Equally, it took me multiple trips back and forth to the dealer to get it correctly un-configured back to the Avant!
The final straw, however, was when ours was (we suspect) dropped by a friend's child which made the volume control very stiff. Despite repeated requests, my local dealer had absolutely no interest in providing a cost for replacing the keypad and my emails to a B&O UK service centre went unanswered. In the end, I sold it as needing attention on eBay and we went back to the Beo4.
To bad that you did not get the program by your dealer but you should have asked on this forum - many of us have it and by googling it you would have found it.
I agree that the remote should be handled by "care" as it has a glass display and if it is dropped hard on the floor it could e.g. cause a dent in the ball which makes the buttons harder to use - here the Beo4 is better although a drop of that one also can destroy the display.
We have a child on the way and I am already thinking about how to Child-proof my Beo5s from the little ones :).
Rivenflush: We have a child on the way and I am already thinking about how to Child-proof my Beo5s from the little ones :).
Quite a simple recipe: get 2-3 Beolink1000 for everyday usage. You will need them and they are indestructible.
And put your Beo 4/5/6 high on the shelf
Vintage Bang & Olufsen
I once had a dog who thought the Beo4 was a bone, carried it off, and gnawed on it. It wasn't a pretty site after she was finished with it. Yet, it still worked.
@Adams: It's always sad to hear when a company like Bang & Olufsen doesn't seem to care about customers and service!If you have the software at home you can experiment with it and manage to configure the Beo 5/6 like YOU want and that's really great!regarding children:Yes, put them on a high enough shelf or just use the wall bracket.
TWG:regarding children: Yes, put them on a high enough shelf or just use the wall bracket.
Yes, put them on a high enough shelf or just use the wall bracket.
The children?
Good idea - I should have done that with mine
MM
There is a tv - and there is a BV
Millemissen: TWG:regarding children: Yes, put them on a high enough shelf or just use the wall bracket. The children? Good idea - I should have done that with mine MM
Arrrggh, the REMOTE. My english...But you're right: Sometimes that seems to be a good idea.
Possibility to use Beo6 as a single remote at home sounds superattractive. :)
And if I understood well, to copy commands from my (example) Whirlpool A/C I need this Lintronic thing to convert IR signal from the original remote into XML that is used in Beo6?
Any alternative process to accomplish that?
AnalogPlanet: Possibility to use Beo6 as a single remote at home sounds superattractive. :) And if I understood well, to copy commands from my (example) Whirlpool A/C I need this Lintronic thing to convert IR signal from the original remote into XML that is used in Beo6? Any alternative process to accomplish that?
It IS attractive to control everything that understands "IR" with a Beo 5 / 6. :-)Yes, their is a third party application for the iPad: http://www.rungwald.dk/
And than there was a way to use an old Windows CE PDA with its IR-port to generate the infrared raw-data:http://www.wincesoft.de/html/body_remotecontrol_ii.html#Testeddevices
Just found out Lintronic launched recently their LIN-138 which is a cheaper version (bit more than 100 EUR) that still has this copy&convert-to-XML functionality. So now I need to find a cheap used Beo6 or simply go to the dealer and buy a new one.
Anyway, it is fantastic to have so many knowledgeable people here in the forum willing to help. :) Great community.