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So I have just seen on Facebook via the Beoplay page.. The new S8 speaker system...
it it looks like a Beolab 14 with 2 speakers and a sub!
http://www.beoplay.com/products/beoplays8
i'll let everyone give their thoughts on this but I don't really know what to say about it!
It's a BeoPlay product, they use the word "streaming" in the presentation.
I'm disapointed that the connections are only line in + Powerlink, and that there is no straming device embedded for Airplay+DLNA, like an A9 for example. For me it's a product positioning mistake.
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I have just compared specs between the 2 systems. It all seems identical to the BL14 but the S8 has outputs for 2 speakers?(still the same 6 amps..) It Has 3.5mm, RCA and powerlink inputs..
Have a look at the price
If you like the sub/sat sound, this is all you need for a music system/streaming device/small tv.
Why did they wait that long for this version to be launched?
N.B. You could simply use the sub (alone) as sub in a 5.1 setup.
MM
There is a tv - and there is a BV
I feel like we've been a little cheated as it's not really a new product. BUT, it's cheap!
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very Mac Pro in looks too ...
I like the idea and price point
we tend to forget there is more to design than designing.
The technical specifications states that it only has 2 amps for satellite speakers.
So in short: It's an amputated Beolab 14 in Black.
Price point is very interesting though! 40% cheaper than the A9. Hard to compare the two systems, as the S8 is meant to be an add-on for your television, and double as a speakers FOR a music system. It can't stand on its own.
The only problem for me is that it makes the Beolab 14 look ridiculously expensive! Essentially its double the price for the ability to add 2-3 extra speakers.
Beovision Eclipse gen2 (GX) w/ floorstand, Beolab 14.2, 4 speaker Shape and ATV4/Chromecast.
Beoplay A9mk4 GVA, Beosound 1 GVA, H2, H3, H8, E6, Beoplay EQ
I think you're maybe missing the point here guys. Is this not aimed at the young generation who connect speakers and sub to their laptops? Since 2002, the majority of people that I know seen too be listening in this way so this could be a great market. Quite whether they'd spend as much as £1000, I'm not sure - a £200 amp with B&W CM1's would blow the system away.
I do wish them well with it though!
Sure the S8 is aimed at 'the young generation' (whatever that is). That is the reason for it being a BeoPlay product, which will be sold through the new BeoPlay channels.
But it might be interesting to the 'common B&O user' as well - or at least to those, who are willing to have a fresh look at their setup.
As I already wrote above, it might be used as a subwoofer for a 'normal' B&O/BV 5.1/7.1 setup - just let the satellites away! You could call that a budget solution, but certainly not a bad one.
When I look at the connections of the S8, I can imagine, that it could be used for the Avant as well - for those who don't want/want to invest in a big setup.
The Avant has a center and the front channels built in as well. You would only need a subwoofer and a set of rear speakers to make a slim 5.1 setup!
Connecting the sub to the Avant should not be the problem.
As I see it you have 2 separate PL connections for sub and satellites.
If you configure the satellites as rear speakers in the setup menu (of the Avant), it must be possible to use these as rears.
Have a look at the drawing - am I right?
seriously? Another negative post?? Why are you here if you hate B&O?
Paul W: I think you're maybe missing the point here guys. Is this not aimed at the young generation who connect speakers and sub to their laptops? Since 2002, the majority of people that I know seen too be listening in this way so this could be a great market. Quite whether they'd spend as much as £1000, I'm not sure - a £200 amp with B&W CM1's would blow the system away. I do wish them well with it though!
Isn't there a forum for the younger generation B&W fans that you could post on instead of here?
Ban boring signatures!
Puncher: Paul W: I think you're maybe missing the point here guys. Is this not aimed at the young generation who connect speakers and sub to their laptops? Since 2002, the majority of people that I know seen too be listening in this way so this could be a great market. Quite whether they'd spend as much as £1000, I'm not sure - a £200 amp with B&W CM1's would blow the system away. I do wish them well with it though! Isn't there a forum for the younger generation B&W fans that you could post on instead of here?
After all, this is the pipe and slippers forum.
Graham
I'm going to be a little bit honest in saying that i feel cheated, only in the sense that it really is a beolab 14 2.1 in black.
when I brought my speakers i said to the salesmen that if B&O did the beolab14 in black or even the option to have it as an additional colour it would have been my preferred choice.
I was then told that because of production and costs that they wouldn't do that, and look we have the S8.
I think it looks so much better in the black and looks exactly how i envisioned that they would look in a different colour.
however i really do love my beolab14s and don't regret buying them however if I knew about the S8 then I would of held off.
Beoplay A2
Paul W: ..........a £200 amp with B&W CM1's would blow the system away. I do wish them well with it though!
..........a £200 amp with B&W CM1's would blow the system away.
Like the guy who has built a DIY kit car and can claim that it's better than a Rolls or Bentley on any individual specification point.
But overall it's actually a pile of cr*p in comparison when the car is looked at as a whole.
vikinger: After all, this is the pipe and slippers forum. Graham
You'll take the slippers, I'll take the pipe 💨
Millemissen: Connecting the sub to the Avant should not be the problem.
I haven't read through the specs in any detail, but am I right in saying I could use the S8 sub with the Avant, replacing the BL11, then use the satellites as rears?
WISA-driven?
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moxxey:I haven't read through the specs in any detail, but am I right in saying I could use the S8 sub with the Avant, replacing the BL11, then use the satellites as rears? WISA-driven?
I guess you did see my post on page one - the one with the connection-pic.
In the end it might turn out, that the BL14-subunit and the S8-subunit are exactly the same (apart from the colour) - the only difference being the software!
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It Looks like the website is a working progress. this part has been half updated.. now says 3 amps, but still the half a dozen reference..
AMPLIFIERS
“Half a dozen reasons”
Despite its compact size, there are 3 powerful class-D amplifiers in here! And they certainly deliver on Wattage - 2 x 140 W for the satellite speakers and 1 x 280 for the subwoofer.
Ah, you know... A little B&O here, a little there
mbee:It's a BeoPlay product, they use the word "streaming" in the presentation. I'm disapointed that the connections are only line in + Powerlink, and that there is no straming device embedded for Airplay+DLNA, like an A9 for example. For me it's a product positioning mistake. diisign.com
I'm not sure there is so much difference price wise between S8 and BL14 : if you look carefully, you can see that there is a new "invisible" table stand (only a round thing where the satellite stands), whereas the smallest table stand for bl14 was an aluminum pedestal with a brushed aluminum disc and a 20cm pole. Replacing one by the other can lower the price point... Unless the price of bl14 was only with wall bracket.
A] No streaming device embedded.
B] No wireless satellites.
BnO missed a great opportunity to sell a product aimed at a new market of young customers and family's, who are in search for a better sounding and design-wise good looking audio/video system. Now, for the average customer it will be no more as a ordinary speaker-system with a greater price tag if comparing this to other brands.
I know the price would go up with my points, but still... My meaning is it could have been a great complete entry system for BnO.
"Believe nothing you read and only half of what you see, let your ears tell you the truth."
BeoMegaMan:The BL14 2.1 and S8 are identical except color and branding. The S8 will only ever support 2.1. The black is lent only to the S8 with the thought that very few 2.1 systems are wall mounted. The black color lends itself better for setting in/on existing furniture. The BL14 is positioned to grow with the end user and at it's heart has always been a 5.1/4.1 concept to attach to non & B&O equipment. By the way the 14 kit has undergone a price drop as well to be competitive with the S8 offering now. All 3 variants.
Could this mainly be an effort to breath life into a product that's sales have not been as good as expected. I'm sure this design included some very high development costs and this would spread those costs over more units if it sells? I imagine they expected this product to sell in the quantities that the other "B" brand sells.
Why so negative?
If you don't like it - it's ok.
I suppose it will sell well - especially at that price point.
A B&O answer to the Bose Acoustimess systems. Seeing as how a lot of people want those type of systems as they are minimally visually invasive, this seems like a good idea. Of course time will tell if they sell. And I can guarantee without hearing it this will sound better than the Bose alternative, those Acoustimass modules are dreadfull, very poor transient response and damping, at least this has a "normal" bass reflex sub.
Jeff
I'm afraid I'm recovering from the BeoVirus.
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Millemissen:Why so negative?If you don't like it - it's ok.I suppose it will sell well - especially at that price point.MMThere is a tv - and there is a BV.
Where are the people, that used to complain about B&O being too expensive?
Millemissen:Where are the people, that used to complain about B&O being too expensive? MM There is a tv - and there is a BV.
I think it is a fantastic addition to the B&O Play range. Come on, guys; where is the love?! A fantastic sounding 2.1 system at a mere price of 8.999,- DKK! I am personally thinking of adding this prudukt as rear speakers and supporting sub for my existing 3.0 system. It is indeed a steal!
BeoVision Eclipse 55, BeoPlay S8 (sub+rears), BeoPlay A9 MKII (living room), BeoVision Avant 32 DVD (retro gaming, basement), BeoLab 4000 (entertainment room, basement), BeoSound 8 (workshop), 2x BeoPlay S3 (PC), BeoPlay A1, BeoPlay H2/H3 (on the go)
This is a game changer - in combination with the Avant.
Until now when you considered a Beovision the higher price was justified with built in "surround processor" as one thing. However, as a new B&O customer, you would have to shed out the same amount or even more than the TV to have at least 4 additional speakers just to have a minimal surround setup. This was really not an obvious deal to all but existing B&O customers who already have some speakers.
With the Avant you already have 3.0 audio. An inexpensive 2.1 set will now give you 5.1.
Later when you are hooked, add a pair of front speakers and use the Avant speakers as 1 center channel.
An upgrade path with small steps like this is so important for new customers.
I am so pleased with this. I think the power of BS4 becomes so much more obvious and available. That is well deserved.
That is exactly what I intended to say in my post on page one.
Hopefully the dealers will actively promote this set - for costumers who want to make their first steps into the 5.1 world.
This might even generate more sales in the B&O shops.
I am sure - as kimchr wrote - that some of those costumers will return some day for an upgraded setup.
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