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Hi all,
I was recently lucky enough to come into possession of a Beogram 1000, Beomaster 900M and a pair of Beovox 1000, one elderly lady owner, complete with instructions for the Beomaster, spare unused cartridge and various other receipts, bits and pieces.
The Beomaster and Beovox work perfectly but there is an issue with the turntable.....!
When I come to place the arm to play a record in speed 45 & 78, the turntable simply does not move, however, when I try it in 33 rpm, the turntable does move but very very slowly.
I've been googling and reading up on this website all evening and can only assume it is an issue with either the belt, the motor or the bearings?
Unfortunately I'm not technically minded enough to dare attempt a repair myself but I really want to get this fixed to see the whole set operating together, might sound daft but I feel I owe it to this old lady to get it fixed. Plus I love the set, it's a thing of beauty!
Can anyone please offer advice/information??
Many thanks
The first thing I would do is to remove all the old grease on the bearing and replace it. It becomes very thick and sticky with age.
Welcome to beoworld! That is a wonderful set! Concerning the belt, how does the platter move if you manually rotate the motor?
Wouter
As mentioned above, a throughout cleaning, lubrication and a new belt will probably solve your problem. A new belt here.
For lubrication use only sewing machine oil. For cleaning Isoprophylíc alcohol
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Welcome to Beoworld.
Fantastic first set up for you and what a dear lady! I know how you feel as I have the exact same set-up at home.
You won't need to be technically minded. If you aren't sure of something, just ask. Us vintage collectors will always try to help keep the older stuff running. You won't be disappointed.
A good clean of the old grease with IPA and regrease should help and will be needed. When the Beogram isn't in use, ensure the speed selector is in the 'off'' position and don't leave it on a selected speed setting otherwise the rubber drive wheel will deform and affect playback and cause vibrations. Replace the belt as it will have stretched and buy one from the source indicated by Soren as some others just don't fir properly.
What cartridge (stylus etc) is attached to the tonearm? It may work fine but if it doesn't sound great when you have it up and running, don't worry as it probably just needs retipping and this can also be done but we can deal with that later.
Keep us up to date.
Dave..
Hi Wouter,
Thanks for taking the time to help me, the platter does move if manually forced but it is very difficult to do.
I did this once and then stopeed as I didn;' know if I was moving it against it's will!! But this will make sense based on the answers on here of gummed up lubricant.
Hi Dave, Soren, Wouter and everyone else.
Thanks to you all for taking the time to respond, I really appreciate it.
The advice you've all given is great and I'll be taking it apart this Saturday to hopefully clean out then listen to a bit of Bowie! I've also ordered the belt so thank you for that Soren.
I have the original SP6-7 cartridge on there which sounded ok when I manually moved the record but the old lady bought a spare in 1975 so hopefully that should be ok.
I had already expected to have to replace the cartridge as they usually seem to be knackered/missing on most of the older sets I looked at so to find it had one and also a spare was a very nice surprise. Out of curiosity, if the worst was to happen and both needles were goosed, where would you recommend to take it to get re-tipped? I heard there was a place in America that does this - the Sound-smith. Would you recommend him?
Thanks again, I'll update you all once I've had a go at it!
DavidGill3:I had already expected to have to replace the cartridge as they usually seem to be knackered/missing on most of the older sets I looked at so to find it had one and also a spare was a very nice surprise. Out of curiosity, if the worst was to happen and both needles were goosed, where would you recommend to take it to get re-tipped? I heard there was a place in America that does this - the Sound-smith. Would you recommend him?
I've just received an SP14 with a nude spherical diamond from Axel in Germany and it is awesome in sound quality. He can repair the SP6/7, see this page and he is very well known:
http://www.schallplattennadeln.de/index.php?lang=0&cl=search&searchparam=SP6
As well as sewing machine oil, try a synthetic oil called 'liquid bearings', easily found on the net/eBay etc. It's fantastic and doesn't dry out. NEVER, EVER use WD40 on anything.
Dave.
It seams like the SP series are less prone to suspension giving in, than the MMC series, I have 2 original SP14s sounding as good as one retipped from Axel.
DavidGill3: Thanks for taking the time to help me, the platter does move if manually forced but it is very difficult to do. I did this once and then stopeed as I didn;' know if I was moving it against it's will!! But this will make sense based on the answers on here of gummed up lubricant.
Make sure that the speed setting is at the '0' or 'off' position when you manually turn it. Does it turn freely now?