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I have recently been gifted a lovely Beomaster 2000/Beogram2000/Beocord2000 and Beogram CD X. I love it, especialy having drooled through the window of the local B&O dealer since I was a teenager in the 70's.
The trouble is the record deck wont run. It makes a few clicking sounds and the indicator light glows so it is trying. Before I go spending a fotune on a proffessional repair I was wondering if there might be an obviouse and relatively simply fix i.e. Drive belt etc? It was running a few years ago befor it was put into storage. I am no engineer but I would have ago if there was a simple fix.
If not is there anyone in the UK you might recommend to repair?
Any help would be much appreciated.
Gary
Hi Gary and welcome to Beoworld.
If it's been in storage for a while there are a few things worth doing.
From what you've said I assume it's this Beogram 2000 as there were 2:
http://www.beoworld.org/prod_details.asp?pid=279
Firstly, it will need a clean and lubrication. Use Isopropyl Alcohol (IPA) on it's mechanism to remove old grease, and lubricate with sewing machine oil or a synthetic such as 'liquid bearings'
Secondly, replace the belt with a good, new one such as from here:
http://www.schallplattennadeln.de/index.php?lang=0&cl=search&searchparam=beogram+2000
The mechanism may be out of sync. If the platter turns easily by hand, select a record size on the selector and turn the platter by hand clockwise. Protect the cartridge while you do this and let the tonearm move towards what would be the end of a record. Carry on until the end of record cycle is reached. Sometimes, that can re-align the mechanism.
If that doesn't work, have a look while you replace the belt and see if there is anything obviously disconnected. If you remove the platter (put pressure on one side and lift up the opposite raised side) you can also check that the 3 transport screws are fully undone.
Let us know how you get on.
Dave.
Hi Dave and thanks for your reply.
I think the model is actually a B&O Beogram 2000 - Type 5821. There is quite a bit of resistance when I try to turn the platter so I don't want to force it. I did pop it off and the belt came away as I did so but seemed to be intact. I could not see and obvious problems.
I have decided to do the right thing and get it looked at professionally. Iconic AV near Redditch seem to be not to far away from me so I will give them a call and probably take it up to them.
I will let you know how I get on. Any further hints and tips would always be appreciated.
Once again many thanks.
Whoa, hold on there Gary.
If it's this one as you say:
http://www.beoworld.org/prod_details.asp?pid=280
you do realise that the turntable will only operate when it has a record on it (or the black centre disc is depressed)? No record on the deck and that's all it will do as it senses there is no record on top.
Hi Dave.
I figured that might be the case so I did try it with an LP on and it made no difference.
OK, this has been the cause of problems in the past so was worth the question!
I hope you can get it fixed. It may not be economically viable depending on the problem. Still sounds like a clean and lubrication issue or mechanism out of kilter. Feedback when/if it's fixed would be useful reference for the future.
OK Thanks Dave and I appreciate your help.
It may not be viable but the system was really looked after and is in such lovely condition I really hope I can get it up and running. I would love to give it a new lease of life.....even if there will be some financial pain! The amp and CD player work fine. It came with a set of KEF Coda 111 speakers but these are to big and the wrong colour for the room (or so my wife tells me) so I may chop them in for something smaller. I was thinking of a pair of Mission SC-M50 or similar.
I will let you know how I get on.
It is the B&O Beogram 2000 - Type 5821....and I think I know whats wrong with it.
Under the platter there is a cradle which the belt goes around and carries the platter {I'm sure you know all this). On the bottom of this cradle is a lip. There are three plastic posts at the edge of this lip. The lip runs under a little tag on the top of these posts, presumably to stop the cradle lifting. On mine the lip goes under the tag on one post but across the top on the other two. This is why there is so much resistance when you turn the platter or the cradle. You can see the platter is not sitting level but is tilted up on one side.There is no way the motor would move the turntable like this. On the top of the post there looks like a little slot which I presume is there to twist the tag out of the way if you ever needed to remove the cradle and the bottom of the post seem to terminate in a plastiv moulded nut under the whole record deck (I hope this is making sense). However they do not seem to want to turn so I cannot get the lip back into its slots on the posts.
Any suggestions?
Thanks,
Hi Gary
some progress then, well done. Can you check that the transport screws underneath the turntable are fully undone? If they aren't, fully undo them and try the platter again. I've looked at the service manual (here on Beoworld for free for Silver and Gold members) and can't quite make out what you refer to and unfortunately, I don't have that deck to look at.. I think I can comprehend what yo usay though. It sounds as though the suspension leaf spring is in the way!
The sub-platter/flywheel (the cradle/spider frame wheel under the top platter) has obviously been moved somehow so should be able to be returned.into the corect position. It may be trial and error. My question is, should the lip be in the one slot at all? Normally, the sub platter will just lift out and isn't retained. Can you take a photo of it and post it here so we can see what's going on?
When the top platter is on, when you say that one part is lower than the rest (the section where the rim is in the slot) where does it sit in relation to the top of the surrounding top? Is it above or below?
When you descibe the tags and posts etc, do you mean the three leaf springs of the suspension?
Hi Dave,
I have taken some pics but I do not know how to post them here. Can I have your email address and send them that way?