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Dear members,
two more questions concerning a Beosystem 7000 in option 0 that is masterlinked to an Avant in Option 2 in the main room.
1) Is it possible to play the sound of the TV through the linkroom speakers in such a setting?
2) I can turn the linkroom speakers by pressing the mute button on the LCS 7000 but I can't mute the speakers or turn them off by pressing mute briefly or for a longer time. Any ideas why that is the case?
Thanks very much.
Greetings,
Kai
As regards 2) - does the MCL2AV hava a mute circuit? Is it possible that there is a defect? Strange that pressing mute turns the system on but thereafter I can't seem to turn it off again using the same way.
1- Try LINK - AV - TV (video source) - should work in L.OPT4...(?) NB: Mixed MCL- ML networks are not recommended by Beo....
2- Are you using a fully wired PL cable? PIN 1 and 4 are needed to control mute/unmute and power up/down. Does it work with L.OPT2?
Does mute/unmute work using BL1000/7000 or Beo4?
Stefan
Yes, you can play the TV sound - you need to set up the options correctly - have you downloaded the MCL manual?
And it should be possible to mute the MCLsAV speakers - I have had exactly the set up you have and it works fine. I suspect wiring and set up issues.
Peter
Thanks very much for your responses. I'll check it out as soon as I'm back home.
Mute functions when I use the Beolink 7000 but the mute button on the LCS 7000 doesn't mute the system. However, pressing the button when the system is in standby, it starts up the system the way it should.
So, back again.
Stefan and Peter, let me first express my gratitude. You've helped me a lot. In particular thanks to Stefan, whom I've contacted through PM a couple of times and went on his nerves a little already .
I've played around for a while based on the information that you have given me and the results might be interesting to others as well. At least I haven't found any such information yet.
1) Link - AV - TV works. And not only that. I was expecting that I will have to switch programme picture and sound separately since picture is displayed by the Avant and sound can be heard through the Linkroom product. However, this is not the case. When starting the TV, then muting the sound and thereafter pressing Link - AV - TV allows you to watch the TV programme and listen to the corresponding sound through the linkroom speakers. When switching programmes picture and sound will switch automatically. So this works pretty well and I wasn't expecting it to work that well.
2) Why are mixed ML - MCL setups not recommended by B&O? If it's only for reasons of convenience, I can live with that. If it does any harm to the products that'd be rather unpleasant.
3) I've also tested the LCS 7000 - a very nice device by the way. Stefan, your hint with changing options was great. It works in option 2 the way it's supposed to. But it doesn't in option 4. I can't mute or turn the system off by pressing the mute button when in option 4, but I can do so when in option 2. Does this mean there is a defect or does it in principle simply not work in option 4? I'd guess the latter. Or is there maybe a way to get it to work anyway?
4) I haven't figure it out 100% yet, but the short and long pressing of standby on the Beolink 7000 to mute the link room speakers only or the entire system seems to work also in option 4. However, I think it only works under certain conditions, which I'm not yet fully aware of, I think when the remote is in link mode. I gues that means that when you press Link - Standby on the Beolink 1000 then that only switches the linkroom speakers off and if you press standby only on the Beolink 1000 then it turns the entire system off. I haven't fully tested this yet, but my guess it that it works like that. What definitely works is Beolink 7000 in link mode - short standy -> link room off; long standby -> entire sysem off. Maybe this has to do something with whether the mute button works or not as well? I haven't fully tried that yet...
Other than the mute button not being fully operational in Option 4 the setup now pretty much does what I was hoping it to do. Amazing how these things work. Everything but simple electronically, I guess.
Just a very brief update:
The control of the system indeed works as indicated. Short pressing of the red dot only puts the linkroom speakers in standby, long pressing also the mainroom speakers. Of course, this only works when one pair of peakers creates sound through the audio and the other pair of speakers through the video system. If both employ the Beomaster or the TV, then they can just simultaneously be put asleep. However, this also seems to work better when in link mode (all assuming that the transceiver is in Option 4).
Still don't now why the mute button doesn't work as it should in option 4. Normal or fault, that's the question here.
Cheers,
Sorry, I thought it was clear with your "option-2-test".
My guess is, LCS7000 sends a mute command, but in L.OPT 4, the MCL2AV expects a LINK MUTE command, which the remote can send, but the LCS does not. L.OPT 4 was never supported by MCL2./AV, as far as I know. It just works. But I`m not sure, how local sources would work an MCL2AV in L.OPT4....(?)
Edited/erased!
MM
There is a tv - and there is a BV
Thanks Stefan and Millemissen. Ok, that makes perfect sense. Could have indeed figured it out myself. Then the LCS 7000 works as it should, which I'm very happy about - tough to come across one of those.
I'm very satisfied with the way things work. There are a couple of aspects that one needs to figure out and it's not as convenient to use as when the products are in two rooms, but still probably much more convenient to use than most other brands nowadays. I think that it's pretty amazing the way it works.
Two final querstions more out of interest:
1) I don't risk to damage anything in that setup, do I (because Stefan has mentioned that mixed setups are not recommended by B&O)?
2) Is there an alternative to the MCL2AV or is this converter the only sensible option in combination with the LCS 7000?
Thanks again!
Manbearpig: 1) I don't risk to damage anything in that setup, do I (because Stefan has mentioned that mixed setups are not recommended by B&O)?
No, the mixed system will not be damaged. Beo didn`t recommend a mixed MCL/ML Beolink system, because otherwise they should have tested all possible options of this kind of linksystem - a lot of work !
Manbearpig: 2) Is there an alternative to the MCL2AV or is this converter the only sensible option in combination with the LCS 7000?
I don`t think so. The LCS7000 is just a modified MCL2 A/AV IR transceiver (the white one, not the later round puk for Beolink active/passive).
Thanks Stefan. Now I know everything that I've wanted to know and will start to place the components in their final position. Quite a bit of work. However, everything works the way I would have liked it to. Pretty nice actually.