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What's the difference between these two plugs? Their age? No, both 1974. A Beocord and a Beomaster of the same vintage!
That one is not too bad, I've seen worse!
Jacques
It is scary to see how smoking makes everything worse. I really can't understand how people can continue day after day, buying expensive poison that not just pollutes their environment and health but everyone around them also.
And poor electronics taking alot of the hit also :( :)
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Michael: It is scary to see how smoking makes everything worse. I really can't understand how people can continue day after day, buying expensive poison that not just pollutes their environment and health but everyone around them also. And poor electronics taking alot of the hit also :( :)
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My second Beogram 4000 had it's AC-cable covered in yellow goo - I had never seen worse. The earlier owner had smoked pipe in all 39 years he had it
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Jacques are you sure it is smoke in this situation? I find it very rare to see power leads as clean as the one you compare to, and generally nicotine stained examples are quite obvious! i do wonder if other environmental factors such as sunlight, local heat source such as radiator might have a similar effect on the plastics?
Well, consider yourself a lucky person for never being in that situation. I use to smoke many rollies a day (typically 40 -50) the majority of which I didn't really enjoy. I was quite envious of what I called 'social smokers'. No conventional methods worked to wean me off the sticks, in the end I found out about aversion therapy - put simply, a rubber band round the wrist and for every smoke related thought, every drag of a ciggy I would administer a painful flick of the rubber band. This method resulted in my not smoking after two weeks, didn't even have to try! Now it annoys me that this is not mentioned by GP's as I believe many people would benefit, but of course there is no money in the rubber band market lol so this is why I am using the opportunity now to spread the word and take me off topic a little..
Olly
I have got a beomaster that almost turned yellow with nicotine and when opened up the stink that flew out was horrible!. Real nasty to clean up!
Søren Hammer: My second Beogram 4000 had it's AC-cable covered in yellow goo - I had never seen worse. The earlier owner had smoked pipe in all 39 years he had it
Yes, it was nicotine. But I had already cleaned it (Mr Clean) before taking the photo!
The clean one on the left is typical of well taken care of B&O. Nearly all my B&O plugs/power cables look like that, including my Beogram 4000!
My Beocenter 3500 was covered in nicotine inside out and a pig to clean. I replaced the power cable altogether!
Anyway, smoking is indeed a waste of money and causes 400,000 deaths every year in France. I used to be a "passive smoker" before my other half quit 10 years ago. She nonetheless had cancer last year. But that's another matter.
Edit: I've just had a time-out.
Step1: I have got a beomaster that almost turned yellow with nicotine and when opened up the stink that flew out was horrible!. Real nasty to clean up!
I was lucky enough that the lid of the Beogram had been closed almost all the time - It looks and smells clean inside. He also had a Beomaster 4000 to go along with the Beogram. The rosewood was yellowing and the perspex slide rule pointers had become opaque. It was disgusting.
Sometimes there's a pleasant surprise, though... I got my MX2000 from somebody who didn't smoke, but apparently some previous owner did - so the stench had dissolved before I got it. At first I was disappointed by the somewhat fuzzy & dim picture, until it dawned to me that the inside of the contrast glass and the surface of the tube were covered in yellow haze! After I cleaned it, the picture was amazingly vibrant and razor sharp (yes, I still greatly prefer it over the softness of later models with RGB input)
--mika
Step1: Well, consider yourself a lucky person for never being in that situation. I use to smoke many rollies a day (typically 40 -50) the majority of which I didn't really enjoy. I was quite envious of what I called 'social smokers'. No conventional methods worked to wean me off the sticks, in the end I found out about aversion therapy - put simply, a rubber band round the wrist and for every smoke related thought, every drag of a ciggy I would administer a painful flick of the rubber band. This method resulted in my not smoking after two weeks, didn't even have to try! Now it annoys me that this is not mentioned by GP's as I believe many people would benefit, but of course there is no money in the rubber band market lol so this is why I am using the opportunity now to spread the word and take me off topic a little..
Im happy that you were able to quit and its almost amazing how much people who smoke - smoke. I have a mother who smokes so I know very well but I have never been a smoker myself which I am happy for.
The cheapest ideas is often the simplest ones = the ones that work best and I think your solution sounds great, it would probably work for most people. Start educating people and perhaps you will get rewarded for your effort in one way or another :)
I don't think that only smoke could be the reason that they become yellow.
Ever seen computers or printers 10 years+ of age and they are not used in a smoky environment, at least not in my case! Horrible yellow.
Brengen & Ophalen
Leslie: I don't think that only smoke could be the reason that they become yellow. Ever seen computers or printers 10 years+ of age and they are not used in a smoky environment, at least not in my case! Horrible yellow.
Smoke is not always the (only) problem but things do degrade over time. Depending on materials and chemical structures they do turn in colour. Most common is probably the lack of UV-protection in plastic and paint that makes it turn yellow just as we get tanned in the sun :).
Exactly! Do people get tanned by smoking?
Leslie: Exactly! Do people get tanned by smoking?
I do my very best, but no
Collecting Vintage B&O is not a hobby, its a lifestyle.
Sorry Soren
Anything placed in the sun goes yellow too. In the past I have had few silver & white CX speakers where one was yellower than it's matching pair caused by it's positioning. I've seen 70's Beolits with sunlight damage too, normally a shadow where the handle has protected it. Smokers goo is another matter but as I don't really play with vintage stuff I haven't come across that for years
If you think nobody cares, try missing a couple of payments.