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I'm trying to connect BeoSound Essence with BeoSound 3200. The purpuse is to distribution the music via the LexCom-Home . I have connected Essence to the AUX-socket on the BeoSound 3200. On Beo4 I use A.AUX command to start but there's no sound . Anyone know what the problem is? If I instead replaces Essence with the Playmaker , it works fine .
If I use the BeoSound Essence standalone and plays exclusively on the wireless speakers I have, it works fine. But when I plug the Essence to BeoSound 3200 the sound disappears . According to the retailer I need to connect Essence to the BeoSound 3200 in order to distribute the music via my LexCom-Home network.
Hello Johan and welcome to the Beoworld forum.
I don't understand how you realized the connection?
The Essence is able to receive an external signal (line in), but not to send one (except to speakers of course...)
I use "Line In" on Essence and then connect to the AUX on the BeoSound 3200. The retailer sell this cable.
The strange thing is that it works to distribute the music through Besound 3200 if use Playmaker but it dosn't work if I use BeoSound Essence.
The Essence isn't a big Playmaker. The right way to connect it is the reverse way.
You need to take a signal out of the BS3200 (headphones plug) and to enter it in the Line In plug of the Essence.
You also need to connect your speakers to the Essence of course. The BS Essence becomes your main device this way.
Note: I know nothing about your LexCom thing...
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johan_stenberg:I use "Line In" on Essence and then connect to the AUX on the BeoSound 3200. The retailer sell this cable. The strange thing is that it works to distribute the music through Besound 3200 if use Playmaker but it dosn't work if I use BeoSound Essence.
Just like with the Playmaker you can use the Essence to connect to an AUX-in connection of another device.
You will - as for the Playmaker - need a RJ45 to RCA cable/adapter.
This is available at your dealer.
HE SHOULD KNOW WHICH ONE TO USE!!!
You should set the volumen either to 'fixed line-out (in the BeoMusic app) or keep the volumen at almost 100% In order to match the overall volumen of the BS3200.
The line-in connection is (as the name says) for an incoming signal (e.g. a turntable.....).
This signal wouldl then be routet through the Essence to the BS3200 - just as the other Essence-sources.
The Essence can be used as one normally would - for NetRadio (with the BeoMusic app),, AirPlay, DLNA and Spotify Connect. Butt you will have to turn on the BS3200 (to A.AUX) each time you want to use these sources.
If the BS3200 is linked to other devices, the A.AUX/Essence will work there too.
MM
There is a tv - and there is a BV
BeoBoy68: Use your BeoSound Essence alone. B&O's engineers worked hours to simplify our music life. Some people like complication
Use your BeoSound Essence alone.
B&O's engineers worked hours to simplify our music life.
Some people like complication
It is not complicated - merely a little tricky!
The Essence is designed to work in different ways - this is one of them.
One of the superb thing with the B&O gear is, that you can use it in different setups - some are more complicated, some are more simplified.
But I do agree with you, that the engineers have 'worked to simplify our music life' with the BS Essence - most people will want to use it the simple way.
Surely one can connect things that way too.
But you will not be able to link the Essence sources to an existing ML then.
I - too - will have to look up, what 'the LexCom thing' is
So in fact, you send the speakers signal to the Aux-In.
I wasn't aware this could be done "safely"...
About the sound settings, you have to use the Beosetup app, but fixed line out ins't an option.
A fixed line-out is a volumen setting of round about 85-90% of max.
I was told, that this can be done in the settings in the BeoMusic app - if not so, please confirm that!
With the Playmaker it is done with the Beo4, before putting the device into Option 0 (means that you can't control the volumen via ir anymore).
The main point is, that you keep the volumen of your source (the Essence) at a constant level, so that it matches the sound level of all other sources of the BS3200.
Of course you could - if not fixed - still adjust the volumen with the 'wheely' or even in the feeding app. But you then would have to 'fiddle' a bit with your main volumen control (of the 3200) - especially if you want to change to and from an internal source (such as CD).
I confirm, it's in the BeoSetup App, not the BeoMusic App.
What you can do from the BeoMusic App is equivalent to turning the knob only.
The fixed volume is "Hotel setup"actualy !
I was right then
If you use 'Costum' you should set it higher.
But - as far as I remember - it actually is, what is 'hidden behind' the term 'Hotel Setup'.
After re-reading my post, I changed it, sorry... and in between, you wrote yours!
Custom isn't fixed, it just sets a customized maximum.
Hotel is the right one.
OK. My head spins. I have read about the Essence many times. I even have the manual open as I read this thread. And I am STILL confused.
Maybe instead of trying understand I should simply ask Mmm to solution my life for me
So ...
I agree that one might say "why would you", however I am just seeking to understand !
BeoNut since '75
For my personal knowledge, which way turns a head down under
@elephant
It's really quite simple.
The Essence is basically nothing more than any other 'source-gear' - if it has somewhere, where the sound gets out, you can connect it to an audio-input of another device.
The Essence has an audio-input possibility - so you can connect basically any other audio source to it.
1 and 2: Yes.
3; Yes - but not with a BeoSound on sound output and on line input at the same time!! If you do: Essence -> Beosound, you could use the line-in (of the Essence) for a non-B&O tv or a turntable in addition. You'll need a RJ/PLto RCA adapter cable from your B&O dealer in case 1 (I don't have the item number at hand), and a simple RCA to RCA (or Minijack to RCA) in case 2 from a turntable or some headphone output.
4: Yes and No - with the suitable wiring!
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Where it is not quite simple is, that you (maybe) would have to deal with 'double volumen control'.
We all know this 'problem', if we - as an example - connect an iPod directly to some kind of amplifier (e.g. a BeoSound with active speakers). If you don't turn up the sound on the iPod, you don't get any sound from your speakers (except maybe humming), no matter how much you turn up the volumen on the BS. And if you turn up the iPod to max, it might even be too much comparing to the other sources of the BS (e.g. the CD).
The essence is a simple standalone device with simple controlling, right - but you can use it as a source on your BS (or even on your BV), if you are willing to deal with this and accept that you have to control two devices. If used witout the 'wheely' and with a fixed volumen output, it does what the Playmaker does plus additional NetRadio (via the BeoMusic app) and Spotify Connect.
And of course this works 'in reverse'. If you connect the sound output of a BS to the Essense (with the speakers on the Essence), you will have all sources again. I think this is a bit more complicated (and you loose the integration with a ML Therefore this is is mostly used if people want to integrate the sound of a non-B&O tv or a turntable to a 'simple setup'.
Imo worth concidering, if you have a flair for experimenting and want to get the most of your B&O devices.
Thanks for the answer!
I have a "RJ45-cable" but I don't think this will work. * At one end is the RJ45 and I connect this to Essence (Ethernet). * At the other end of the cable is the two "line contacts". But my BS3200 have only AUX-input . So how can I get this to work, I do not understand? :-)
The RJ/PL has nothing to do with 'ethernet' - it just uses the same plugs as the CAT cables do.
The cable you have (from the dealer?) is the normal one.
Since there are several forms of of inputs on devices, you will need an adapter.
In your case a male (probably) stereo RCA to DIN 5pin (as we know them for the A.AUX of the BS's).
Some BS's - though - have RCA inputs!
Christophe:my experience with the helmet plug (but not the Aux plug)
I should have asked before ... what do you mean by "helmet plug" ?
Millemissen:Imo worth concidering, if you have a flair for experimenting and want to get the most of your B&O devices.
Thanks MM, you are a treasure with hard won knowledge ... so barely " really quite simple " ... so don't sell yourself short !
elephant : Christophe:my experience with the helmet plug (but not the Aux plug) I should have asked before ... what do you mean by "helmet plug" ?
My mistake, headphones, not helmet...
Christophe: elephant : Christophe:my experience with the helmet plug (but not the Aux plug) I should have asked before ... what do you mean by "helmet plug" ? My mistake, headphones, not helmet...