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But obviously removed from the website again.
MM
There is a tv - and there is a BV
Millemissen: But obviously removed from the website again. MM
Looks like they may have 'jumped the gun' as it has been removed as MM says:
http://shop.beocincinnati.com/beolit-15-%7C-portable-loudspeaker-bluetooth-yellow/dp/390
Dave.
When is it expected to hit the stores?
benoit:When is it expected to hit the stores?
Is the change form WIFi to Bluetooth a change to a lesser sound quality? I understand that BT means compressed music?
http://beophile.com/?p=22188
You can download the manual ....
For the bluetooth, yes it is compressed. They probably support APTX for android und AAC for apple devices, how good that really gets I don't know but I sense for a portable speaker its OK.
The problem with Airplay is, that it doesn't support current 5GHz Wifi standards, only 2.4, I live in high rise and 2.4 essentially doesnt work at all, I suspect over the traffic. I think this is why B&O recommends cable connection to router.
For a smaller portable speaker Bluetooth might be the better choice right now.
JK
jc: Is the change form WIFi to Bluetooth a change to a lesser sound quality? I understand that BT means compressed music?
I don't think it's a move to a lesser quality. I think Bluetooth is better suited for portable devices because you aren't depending on some wirelesss network that needs to be available. Apart from that, the quality of the b&o airplay implementation seems to be at least questionable. Sorry to say. Bluetooth is stable and just works. That is a big plus compared to b&o airplay.
BeoVision 11-55, BeoLab 8000, BeoRemote One BT, AppleTV 4, 2x BeoPlay A2, BeoPlay A1
I believe when comparing here Bluetooth and Airplay people are not considering signal stability (drops etc) but rather how can a Bluetooth data throughput compare to WiFi (AirPlay) and whether there is a negative impact on sound quality?
And that is exactly a dilemma I have too. Not sure if BT can easily handle high(er) quality streaming - especially from iPhone/iPad where aptX is not supported.
...and just found an excellent article, turns out iDevices users don't have to worry about the absence of aptX because H8 supports AAC decoding.
That means (as I read it) that the sound quality you get from AAC source (music file, radio streaming etc) on your iPhone remains undegraded once played on H8 compared to wired headphone connection. In theory, at least.
And here's the link to the article:
http://stereos.about.com/od/Wireless/fl/What-You-Might-Not-Know-About-Bluetooth.htm
Yes I understand. But I don't believe you are able to hear the difference between lossless and compressed when streaming to a portable speaker. Speaker quality makes the difference in my opinion. Let alone high resolution audio that is being discussed every now and then. I believe this is irrelevant with most speakers we own, maybe an exception for beolab 9 or 5 owners, but certainly not for a portable speaker. So I consider stability and ease of use far more important.
Yes, I think you have a point here. Well then it looks like Beolit 15 might be a significant improvement for those who typically suffer from connection loss/drops.
"You think we can slap some oak on this thing?"
I can hear the difference in sound through a Beosound 1. (compressed or not, good FM-reception vs lower quality cable-radio) I think I'll be able to hear the difference through a Beolit 12/15.
If you google "Beolit 15 champagne" or "Beolit 15 polar blue" for example you get a lot of answers of internet sites (mostly US) that are referencing the device to be sold at (allready) discounted price.
Incredible because it's not even out yet !
Just in case : I google Beolit 15 because I can't wait to buy it from my dealer not because I want to order it on one of those strange sites...
Amazon US description : "The small, but mighty Beolit 15 packs a powerful and portable music punch. It features the innovative True360 sound solution, so you can place it anywhere and get equally good sound from all directions. Thanks to the 240 watts of peak power there is enough power under the hood to fill even larger rooms in your home. With up to 24 hours of playtime on a single battery charge you have the freedom to bring Beolit 15 everywhere, inside and outside. Setting up and connecting through Bluetooth is both fast and easy - the way it should be".
When can we get that speaker ???
The 'nightshift product' seems to be out before the 'original' is launched