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Hi. I wanted an update on wether the bm5 can be used as a server for videos? I have stored on it music, pictures and videos . I have an apple tv connected to my 7.55 with bl5 and 3 .I can send easily music and pictures to the tv via apple tv and a ipad apps like plugplayer or ace player and enjoy music with these speakers but no way that any of these apps that converse with any upnp server like the bm5 see my videos stored on it. Does anybody know wether there is a way that bm5 send the information about videos ,? On the other hand if my pc is switched on my videos stored on the bm5 shows on itune and my apple tv can read them and broadcast on the 7.55. But i would like to avoid having the pc switched on. So anybody know if there is a way that bm5 send info on videos as an upnp server? Or if bo has a plan about that ? I don t understand why having a 500 or 1tera of storage if this is only for cd and pics this is for millions of these!.. Rgds
I do also have a 7-55 with a BM5 connected, and my conclusion is that it is possible to let the BM5 play movies.However, I did not go for that after quick tests, first, there is only 1TB available in BM5, BM5 IS designed for music, not movies, and, if you want to listen to music in a link room then you can not watch movies at the same time.Instead I purchased a Tvix M6600 media player, this player can be controlled very well via PUC (Beo4) and it just plays all movie formats; AVI-ISO-VOB-IMG etc. Even Blueray ISO and rips can be played. And using coverarts from Tvixie just makes this player great for all members in the family!
beolion:Instead I purchased a Tvix M6600 media player, this player can be controlled very well via PUC (Beo4) and it just plays all movie formats; AVI-ISO-VOB-IMG etc. Even Blueray ISO and rips can be played. And using coverarts from Tvixie just makes this player great for all members in the family!
Others here have also gone down similar paths - either using TVIXs or MacMinis (needs some computer skills) or other media centres.
BeoNut since '75
Thanks for the reply .are you saying that withthe tvix 6600 multimedia box you were able to acess movies on the bm5 ? Or that you replcaed your bm5 by an other nas tvix as some exist with hard drive in it . It is very strange so far no upnp server apps i tried retrieved any of my movies stored on the bm5 so if i buy the tvix the entirety of what is stored onthe bm5 will beavailable to broadcast?i am less worried with the linked rooms as today i didnt linked any of the room i have the 7.55 and a 9000 coupled ina mainlounge and the bs5 inthe bedroom, i would like to add an other nas just to broadcast my dvd that i ripped thanks
Read i would NOT like to add another nas just to broadcast videos....
Today, I received a promotional brochure from B&O that strongly promotes the Apple TV to be used as a video server for the BeoVision 10. As the new BeoPlay TV even has a built-in space for the Apple TV, it seems that B&O is steering toward the Apple TV rather than the Tvix. I have an Apple TV connected to each of my 3 B&O TVs and love it.
Thanks for the reply I have too opted for an apple tv as multimedia box it is ok because you can control many things through the ipad and direct video music or picture to the 7.55 however apple tv is not seeing the bm5 it is only when your pc is onthat everything is possible through itune that can point all media files of the bm5 or at least the way i use it .... But as far as i can see apple tv access data only on a pc and through itunes . Many apps exist on ipad to use apple tv without your pc onbut here again not any i tried have shown the videos stored onthe bm5 but they show without issues music and pixtures . It looks like bm5 server is restricting itself to only music and jpeg but i think they should update the soft of the bm5 to this possibility as soon everyone will only buy a bs5 encore pointing to any kind of standart and forget about bs5 and bm5 (ok bs5 has a cd ripper but is that enough .....)
Pantonline,
I agree with you completely. The extra cost of the BeoMaster 5 is so much that B&O really needs to add more features to it to justify the higher cost than the Encore. There is so much potential for added features. For example, B&O could add popular features such as Netflix, Spotify, Hulu, Pandora, and Vudu. Moreover, B&O could create a beautiful interface for this that has a great B&O "feel." A HUGE problem and mistake of B&O was using DVI instead of HDMI. I doubt that the DVI connection of the BeoMaster 5 even supports HDCP, which is becoming more and more popular such as with the Apple TV.
During the trip to Stuer, we were able to talk to some engineer, and they now clearly see that some users are Apple centric and some others are PC centric. So they simply go after both types of users.
B&O will provide solutions to integrate with Apple TV, iPods, etc... and will also support DLNA/UPNP more and more for PC centric users.
The BM5 is PC based, plays WMA, WMV, is a UPNP server. The BS5Encore is a UPNP client.
Beoworld app with direct photo upload and emoticons.
I do have a NAS that I use for backup of all our PC's and to store all movies. And as an extra backup of the BM5 music library I have about 3 TB movies and 300GB music now, and therefore the BM5 would be far to small as media server for me. A full Blueray rip can consume up to 50GB of space.All my Tvix's have access to the NAS using SMB (network).
I agree that other options could be a MAC Mini or even the Apple TV, but if you use Apple, then you normally would have to make sure all your movies are ripped "correct". The nice part with apple is that you can easy use iPad or iPhone etc as remote controls.
I find that the price of the Apple TV (only $99 USD) and elegance and simplicity of its interface make it highly attractive. The free Handbrake app for the mac does a beautiful job of encoding rips and videos to Apple TV format. With my new iMac, this usually takes only 10 to 20 minutes for a full-length movie. Also, you can use this same format for portability on the iPads and iPhones. This is the same format as what you purchase from the iTunes store. You can even adjust the settings in Handbrake to rip to full 1080p; however, I have heard that the programers at Handbrake are currently working on a preset format to accomplish that better. I just read today that it's expected that Apple will announce new features for it's Apple TV interface next month. Most blu-rays now come with a digital copy that is already in the Apple TV format. With a company as solid as Apple, I feel comfortable that the format used for Apple is a future-safe format for encoding.
For my storage, I use a Drobo array. Mine has 4 hard drive bays. I think that larger ones are now available. You can expand your storage very simply by just popping a new hard drive into an empty slot. I now have 3 hard drives of 2 TB each and still have an empty slot for future expansion. You can have up to 4 TB in each of the four slots. The Drobo constantly keeps all data backed up and alerts you if a hard drive appears to be failing.
BillC:That's been my wish for a long time but it's not meant to be. I've ended up building my own silent pc using Xbmc with a wireless USB touch screen as a 2 way remote. It's not perfect, need a true Hi definition sound card, and bug fix for the audio cover art on the 2 way remote. The pc is hooked up to 4 beolab 3 and a velodyne digital subwoofer. Still deciding what centre speakers to get. If bm5 became a video server, 80% chance is I'd buy the whole combo. I've asked B&O about it and the reason they told me was they were worried about the copyright thing etc. I honestly don't see why others can create a media server but B&O don't feel they can legally do so. They could always go the NAS route etc The research and time I spent on the pc is huge- I rather pay the money but have the convenience of a tight solution with good interface, high quality build, components and outputs.
If bm5 became a video server, 80% chance is I'd buy the whole combo. I've asked B&O about it and the reason they told me was they were worried about the copyright thing etc. I honestly don't see why others can create a media server but B&O don't feel they can legally do so. They could always go the NAS route etc
The research and time I spent on the pc is huge- I rather pay the money but have the convenience of a tight solution with good interface, high quality build, components and outputs.
Suppose B&O can pull this off, how would that compare with my jailbraked Apple TV2? Because it has all you ask for.
A $99,- device. A micro USB cable to jailbrake your ATV for $8,-. And ATVFlash (black) for $30,-. That's 3rd party software so you can install XBMC (+ a lot more) And if you have an iPhone/iPad, install XBMC Remote. A cheap app that will replace your USB touch screen.
Costs $140,- and there is notting illegal on my setup.
You can use any NAS. Speed is not important. I even use my Time Capsule. It reads any video format. Asking the BM5 to act as video server is like inventing the wheel. Really!
Well for one thing the Apple TV sound output is not the best, it doesn't support 192kHz/24bit and doesn't have pre output for 7.1 sound.I dont wat to buy another box to hookup my speakers to play the audio - it defeats the whole purpose of an all feature media server. The AppleTV isn't an all in one box.
Another thing is AppleTV until recently didn't even support 1080p. Bluray wasn't something it could have handled until recently. Its graphic card isn't the best.
As for my usb screen, I had it long before tablets were the norm and FYI I'm using the XBMC constellation on my ipad 2. Big boo, iphone/ipad apps weren't the first to this concept
The point of a BM5 style media serverto me is
AppleTV hardware specs aren't what I called high end nor am I saying B&O will come to meet all the above. It can meet some people requirements but doesn't suit me
On the B&O careers page of the new website there is an ad for a software developer for digital video platforms. Link
So maybe something is in the pipeline.
Tim
Double post due to slow response time of server.
Is there no delete option?
BillC: Well for one thing the Apple TV sound output is not the best, it doesn't support 192kHz/24bit and doesn't have pre output for 7.1 sound.
Well for one thing the Apple TV sound output is not the best, it doesn't support 192kHz/24bit and doesn't have pre output for 7.1 sound.
Neither does the BM5.
BillC: Another thing is AppleTV until recently didn't even support 1080p. Bluray wasn't something it could have handled until recently. Its graphic card isn't the best.
And the BM5 is? The graphic card is on the motherboard, Has a DVI output, and runs on a Windows XP embedded platform with very limited specs.
BillC: AppleTV hardware specs aren't what I called high end nor am I saying B&O will come to meet all the above. It can meet some people requirements but doesn't suit me
I was only comparing the specs of an existing ATV with a hypothetical BM5 as a video-server. The BM5 is dedicated audio player. If you want the BM5 as an all feature media server, you need a different platform for sure.
The BM5/BS5 is a dedicated audio product and will only be competitive with other audio players, like Olive, Linn and Sonos. All the ATV’s, TVIX’s, Dune’s and so on are dedicated video players. Sure these players can play all audio, but it’s no competion if you have a dedicated audio player, like a Beosound 5. Two different worlds.
It would be worth seeing what announcements Apple has for the Apple TV next week. It's expected that there will be apps available for the Apple TV, which could open it up to more services such as Hulu, Pandora, Spotify, etc. Also, it's expected that Apple will announce the option to have gesture control via a motion-sensor attachment to the Apple TV. This would remove the necessity for a physical remote control, much like XBox Kinect and the new Samsung TVs. Also, the Mountain Lion OS for Macs that will be released this summer will offer features of airplay streaming of video content from the computer to the Apple TV. Just a few exciting features to look forward to.
Paton,
Tu télécharge divx sur une clé usb ensuite tu installes ce programme sur le Beomedia via le menu service du beosound 5 et tu fais la même chose pour les films que tu veux charger dans le Beomedia . Pour lire les films il suffit dans passer dans photo et tu pourras lire les films que tu auras enregistrés. Je peux lire des films a partir de mon Beomédia sans problème. Cordialement .
Tu télécharges divx sur une clé usb ensuite tu installes ce programme sur le Beomedia via le menu service du beosound 5 et tu fais la même chose pour les films que tu veux charger dans le Beomedia . Pour lire les films il suffit dans passer dans photo et tu pourras lire les films que tu auras enregistrés. Je peux lire des films a partir de mon Beomédia sans problème. Cordialement .