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Hi I have a 2000 LS400 and its stock Pioneer sound system is a discrace for the potential it has. I'm curious what would happen if i swapped out the drivers to some B&O speakers which are the same size and impedance... has anyone tried this? I'm tempted to try putting in some avant or 4000 drivers and see what happens or maybe more appropriately, their car drivers that are used in audi / mb etcDoes anyone know where the best place I could find some 2 ohm B&O speakers? Who does B&O get their drivers from?
Thank you! I'm curious to see what you have to say about this.
Hi,
There are a number of reasons why using the home-loudspeaker drivers in a car might be a bad idea...
- domestic loudspeaker drivers are not built for automotive environments. They may not be able to withstand the temperature extremes if you live in Finland in January or the Middle East in July. They aren't strong enough to withstand collision (as someone with experience told me when I asked a similar question when we built our first Audi prototype : we don't put "home" woofers in the doors of the car because in a side impact, the woofers will rip away from the baskets, shoot across the car and cut your legs off.)
- without significant equalisation, they probably won't sound good at all. This is also true if you swap the drivers out of a B&O automotive system and put them in another vehicle and/or enclosure.
A very large part of the reason why B&O systems (both automotive and domestic) sound like they do is because of the filtering in the DSP. Without the tuning in the DSP, chances are you'll be disappointed with the results.
Cheers
-geoff
Geoff Martin: Hi, There are a number of reasons why using the home-loudspeaker drivers in a car might be a bad idea... - domestic loudspeaker drivers are not built for automotive environments. They may not be able to withstand the temperature extremes if you live in Finland in January or the Middle East in July. They aren't strong enough to withstand collision (as someone with experience told me when I asked a similar question when we built our first Audi prototype : we don't put "home" woofers in the doors of the car because in a side impact, the woofers will rip away from the baskets, shoot across the car and cut your legs off.) - without significant equalisation, they probably won't sound good at all. This is also true if you swap the drivers out of a B&O automotive system and put them in another vehicle and/or enclosure. A very large part of the reason why B&O systems (both automotive and domestic) sound like they do is because of the filtering in the DSP. Without the tuning in the DSP, chances are you'll be disappointed with the results. Cheers -geoff
What if I put the BeoLab 5s in the back seat of my Ford Taurus but made sure I used the ABC? There would still be room for our son in the middle of the bench seat.
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jowus:If that's the case, why don't get the Automative B&O System, or in other words buy Audi S7 or A8, these are equipped with the Lasted B&O Systems.
Because ,although automotive, they are tuned to those particular cars.
Also , Audi spare parts are incredibly expensive!
Beo Century ,Beoplay V1, Beocenter 6, Ex-Beolit 12, Beotime , A8. Beolit 15 , Form 2i , Beolab 2000, Beoplay A3.Beosound 1
I believe you can't retrofit B&O systems in Audis, Astons, etc. as apparantly they require a totally different wiring loom on the assembly line..
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Years ago, when I had my first car, I put two S30's (I think they were) in the boot of my Volvo 340, with the parcel shelf removed they sounded really good hooked upto an Apline stereo radio cassette and graphic equaliser! Masses of bass and really punchy - I later tried them behind the front seats of a Triumph Spitfire - nowhere near as good and actually probably a really dangerous thing to do in hindsight, fun at the time though and we are talking mid 1980's
Wouldnt do it now of course as I know better!
Safety in an accident is something that should be seriously considered. Back in the day I had a pair of A/D/S 200c speakers, small metal boxes, mounted on the rear shelf in their brackets. Not a wise idea, but after they got stolen I went with 300c flat plate speakers that mounted flush. Still if I think about it their mounting wasn't the sturdiest.
A buddy of mine had the Radio Shack Minimus 7 speakers, similar to the A/D/S 200c, mounted the same way, on their brackets. He dead centered a tree, and this is the ONLY time I can say it's lucky the driver wasn't wearing a seat belt. His head snapped forward and into the steering wheel, giving him a black eye and chipping a tooth badly. But, while his head was down the drivers side speaker sheared off the mounts and came slamming forward, just missing his head as it sailed by and taking out the windshield. Those speakers had cabinets machined out of aluminum, and were surprisingly heavy for their size, if it'd hit his head he'd have been a goner.
So, more to car audio than just sonics!
Jeff
I'm afraid I'm recovering from the BeoVirus.
In 2007 we discussed a DeLorean with BeoSound 2, BeoSound 9000 a pair of BeoLab 3's. The link to the pictures on the sites on Bang & Olufsen as well to another thread about on BeoWorld are unfortunate incorrect.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/lee211/1414264770/
The thread from 2007.
http://archivedarchivedforum2.beoworld.org/forums/t/7644.aspx
Thank you everyone for your detailed and informative replies. It explains why people don't do it. I may have to spend the extra and have a car audio company do a proper install with a new amp and speakers, to overcome the current DSP in this car. It is such a perfect environment for a good sound system, because its so quiet and solid... if any body has a good pointer to the best amp and speaker products for a discerning listener who is used to B&O sound, please let me know... that would be wonderful. :)