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I stumbled across another review of the avant it is in French and will require Google translate. The good thing about it though is the settings which the reviewer put up will help any owners get the best from there sets as he's shut off or reduced many of the options that cause more harm to the picture than good in my view.
http://www.audiovideohd.fr/tests/390-Bang-Olufsen-BeoVision-Avant-0.html
Beoplay A2
Very very interesting review
Thanks for the link
Hi,
An interesting review - thanks for the link - I'll pass it on internally here in Struer.
But be careful to not believe everything you read. In a quick look, I can see that there are at least two errors in the section on the audio... I don't know anything about video, but maybe the reviewer was more careful about that.
Cheers
-geoff
The only thing that prevent me from buying a new avant TV is the "Soap Opera effect"
http://www.bigbrownboxblog.com.au/av-talk/beating-the-soap-opera-effect-what-the-hobbit-can-teach-us-about-motion-interpolationhttp://www.cnet.com/news/what-is-the-soap-opera-effect/
Geoff Could you pleaaaaaaaaaaaaaase transmitt my request to struer people because I am not the only one frustrated by this Soap opera effect on movies
Thanks a lot and keep us informed about B&O solution for not having this soap opera effect
Facel, every TV has that.
I have the Avant 55 and its easy to turn off and it stays off.
But sometimes I turn it on and I like it in some movies :-)
is there any COMPATIBLE 24p or 24 hertz TRUE CINEMA mode on the avant ?
Regarding the audio side I find the avant to sound amazing and powerful on demos I've had of it. I do feel however that the sharpness is set very high and in conjunction with the noise reduction causes a lot of noise in the picture which I've seen.
when i had a demo of the v1 at home turning the overscan to off setting the output on my Bluray player to 1080p 24hz switching off the noise reduction and switching the sharpness to off, setting the picture to movie produced a picture quality of such clarity depth it really was unlike anything I've seen and that's just on the v1.
I could only imagine what it would look like on a bv11 or avant with those settings.
Also as michael has pointed out you can switch it off.
Aussie Michael: Facel, every TV has that.
Yes ... that's why I do not buy a new One, but Beovison are supposed to be different from others
Aussie Michael: But sometimes I turn it on and I like it in some movies :-)
It is normal , elderly generally do not see any difference
Geoff Martin: But be careful to not believe everything you read. In a quick look, I can see that there are at least two errors in the section on the audio... I don't know anything about video, but maybe the reviewer was more careful about that. Cheers -geoff
For what it's worth, it's not just Beovisions that have issues with some of the sharpness and judder control "features." Most sets look much better if you turn off all the processing that allegedly improves the image.
On my Panasonic, the THX certified movie mode has all of this off by default. I've experimented with turning some of the features on, horrible. I honestly can't understand why any let alone all of the manufacturers have this stuff and mostly have it turned on by default.
I have a couple of DVDs that have severe judder, and none of the processing options do a thing to improve it, so I'm still at a loss to figure out where they would work.
Jeff
I'm afraid I'm recovering from the BeoVirus.
Beosound Stage, Beovision 8-40, Beolit 20, Beosound Explore.
Thing is though panasonic, philips, samsung and loewe have motion compensation where you can choose from say min to max which in short reduces the soap opera effect a great deal.
I find panasonics intelligent frame creation to be very good used on its minimum setting. My last tv which was the loewe individual slim frame had the best motion compensation I've seen so far, as in there was no blur judder or soap opera effect with movies once the motion compensation was set to the soft setting.
panasonic also have the 24hz smooth film setting which is an option you can select once you have set your bluray player to output 1080p.
I had a gt50 which was amazing but i noticed the after trailing which played havoc when things moved quickly across the screen.
Jeff: I have a couple of DVDs that have severe judder, and none of the processing options do a thing to improve it, so I'm still at a loss to figure out where they would work. Jeff
BeoNut since '75
@ Geoff Martin (and everybody concerned)
=> do you have any "technical" presenation about tthe benefits of the video system embedded inside the avant ?
like the press presentation you have achieved about audio which was really excellent !
=> could we get info about the 120 hz mode on the avant (is this for 60hz country only ? )
and what about the 24P true cinema mode implementation ??
Thanks a lot