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I had added A.DVD to my Beo4 to allow it to switch to audio-only mode by the press of a button.
Is this still possible with the BR One? I have been looking through the manual, but this no longer appears possible? Am I missing something?
Raeuber:I guess you'll have to select 'AV' under LIST and then 'DVD' under VIDEO. I hope 'A.DVD' is available under LIST, but I don't think so. I hope B&O didn't forget the AV command.
There is no AV an no A.DVD under list per default, but it may be me not being able to program it. What is possible is to define four so called "products", which I understand is supposed for 4 different devices. The four products are called "Beo4 Video", "Beo4 AV", "Beo4 Audio", and "Beo4 Link". I am currently using the BROne in Beo4 AV mode, but can switch it to "Beo 4 Audio" and then select DVD. Maybe, that's how it is supposed to work? This would be rather cumbersome though to get into the "old" A.DVD mode. Let me give it a try.
Any idea what these four "products" are supposed to do? From what I read in the manual, it is actually for using several products (e.g., a BV and BS).
Raeuber:I would also like to replace my Beo4 with BR One. In December a dealer didn't want to sell a BR One silk although he had two of them. Even as my wife told him it would be a christmas gift for me. He told me it would be available in February. Last week I went into another B&O store during my holiday. The dealer told me BR One isn't still available alone, only with an Avant or BV11, he hoped this will change in summer. Meanwhile I don't have much interest in BR One anymore.
I understand your frustation, but would not give up on it yet. I bought the sillk one and it is an absolute master piece. I really loved my Beo4, but the BROne is the most amazing remote ever. Hard to describe what makes it stand out, but it clearly does. I bought mine in Germany, so there are remotes out by now. Get one and you will not regret!!!
It is really a great remote, so you may reconsider... ;-)
I'll let you know Tuesday whether I can get the AV feature to work. I am looking for exactly what you are looking for (playing music without panel). Worst case, this can be accomplished via p.mute, but I also don't like this option.
Related question - when switching your BV7 from DVD to A.DVD, does it also switch to stereo? This is what happens with p-mute, which is rather annoying to me.
steve1977: Related question - when switching your BV7 from DVD to A.DVD, does it also switch to stereo? This is what happens with p-mute, which is rather annoying to me.
Can I change my speaker set-up to be 5.1 for audio as well? When you say switch to 2, does it still use the sub? I find the sub to be quite nice even for music.
You are spot-on what we are both looking for. I am as eager as you are to start music from stand-by and for this reason don't really like the p.mute function.
I checked the manual again: you can configure each of the 4 "products" (Beo4 AV, Beo4 Audio, Beo4 Video, Beo4 Link) with three different options. The options are: V.Opt, A.Opt, L.Opt. After selecting one of the 3 options, I will need to number (0, 1, 2, 4, 5, 6). Any idea what this is for and whether this helps out get something like our good ol' A.DVD back?
On my BV8 you can set two defaults for speakers: AUDIO (say SPEAKER 2) and VIDEO (say SPEAKER 5).
So I have VIDEO set to SPEAKER 1 (centre speaker only) as mostly it is on for cooking shows & news, and AUDIO for SPEAKER 2 (stereo for my kind of music).
Perhaps your BVs have similar settings that can be adjusted to give you the behaviours you are looking for ?
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Thanks. My main interest would be to get an audio-only set-up for my BV. Do you think selecting Beo4-Audio with V.Audio and 2 may get me there? The manual says that Beo4-Audio is meant for audio systems, but worth a try.
steve1977:Can I change my speaker set-up to be 5.1 for audio as well? When you say switch to 2, does it still use the sub? I find the sub to be quite nice even for music.
Any idea what the different modes (0, 1, 2, 4, 5, 6) stand for?
The Options of the A-, the V-, the L-setups.
Meaning: how they react to ir-commands.
MM
There is a tv - and there is a BV
steve1977:Any idea what the different modes (0, 1, 2, 4, 5, 6) stand for?
Raeuber:Regarding our problem with the AV-command: I guess this command has to be added to LIST on BR One before it can be used under LIST (like Beo4). On my Beo4 I have 11 commands available under LIST and I could add another 44 commands if I want. It should be possible to add 'AV' to LIST because the manual of BR One says on page 16: "Bei Auswahl eines „Beo4-Produkts“ enthält das Menü LIST auf der BeoRemote One dieselben Funktionen wie das Menü LIST auf der Beo4." So please try to add 'AV' to LIST on your BR One.
I guess this command has to be added to LIST on BR One before it can be used under LIST (like Beo4). On my Beo4 I have 11 commands available under LIST and I could add another 44 commands if I want.
It should be possible to add 'AV' to LIST because the manual of BR One says on page 16:
"Bei Auswahl eines „Beo4-Produkts“ enthält das Menü LIST auf der BeoRemote One dieselben Funktionen wie das Menü LIST auf der Beo4."
So please try to add 'AV' to LIST on your BR One.
This may be bad news then. You are basically saying that the path to look to add another "product" (i.e., "Beo 4 Audio") is not the way to go? For the BV7, it would still need to be the "product" "Beo 4 AV"?
So, our solution space will be looking to add things from the list menu when having selected the "Beo 4 AV" product. I can check again, but I looked at this a few times and I don't think there is "AV" as part of this list. But let me look into this again tomorrow (I won't be back home before then).
steve1977:This may be bad news then. You are basically saying that the path to look to add another "product" (i.e., "Beo 4 Audio") is not the way to go? For the BV7, it would still need to be the "product" "Beo 4 AV"? So, our solution space will be looking to add things from the list menu when having selected the "Beo 4 AV" product. I can check again, but I looked at this a few times and I don't think there is "AV" as part of this list. But let me look into this again tomorrow (I won't be back home before then).
Unfortunately, AV cannot be added to the list. At least not in the "normal" way described in the manual. There are plenty of things that can be added to the list (both for "list tv" and "list music"), but no AV function...
Unfortunately, no to all of above. There are four "areas" where I can add things from the extended list:
TV - TV, DTV, DVD, V.Mem, DTV2, V.AUX, Matrix1, and some more (but no AV)
Music - Radio, CD, A.Mem, N.Music, A.Aux, USB, and some more (but no DTV, DVD, or V.xxx)
List TV - 3D, 2D, Record, Random, etc.
List - Music - Mute, P.Mute, Random, etc.
The only hope could be to try something else than "Product" "Beo 4 AV". If that's a "no", then it appears quite definite that B&O "killed" the AV functionality...
No "list", but as mentioned before there is a "product" labelled "Beo4 List", so I assume that this is what you may be looking for.
I also still have some hope that these mysterious 4 products ("Beo 4", "Beo4 Video", "Beo4 Music", and "Beo4 List") somehow give us the "AV" back? It appears you understand this "product thing", so any idea what it is and whether there is some hope?
Also, there are the "mysterious" product options called "V.Opt.", "A.Opt.", "L.Opt", which somehow may have some relevance? But you also appear to know what these are and they won't help us either?
There is no 'AV'-function on NL.
The BeoRemoteOne is a remote designed with the NL in mind.
@Räuber - what makes you think, that the software of the BROne can not be updated?
P.S. Why not just stick to the good old Beo4 (w. Navi), when your products are pre-NL?
Did my message just disappear? Re-typing...
There is no "link", but there is a "product" called "Beo4 Link", which may do what you are looking for.
Still two areas that give me some hope? It appears you know what they are, so maybe you can clarify whether worth to explore or a dead end:
1) "Products" - there are four different "Beo4 products": "Beo4 AV", "Beo4 Video", "Beo4 Audio", "Beo4 Link". They can be selected as different "modes" on the same level as "Beovision" (which I understand from my dealer is only relevant if I have an Avant / BV11. But there are the four Beo4 products.
2) "Product options": I can change V.Opt, A.Opt and L.Opt. We commented on the different options for this "product options": Anything to change here, which may bring hope?
Millemissen: There is no 'AV'-function on NL. The BeoRemoteOne is a remote designed with the NL in mind.
Räuber does raise a right point though that the manual says that the manual says that all "list functions" of the Beo4 are still possible, which is not the case given our well beloved AV function is missing.
Anyhow, I do not regret the purchase and would still suggest Räuber to buy the BR One. It is the most amazing remote I have ever owned and is light years better than the also much loved Beo4. It's a true master piece!!!
Millemissen:There is no 'AV' on NL. The BeoRemoteOne is a remote designed with the NL in mind. @Räuber - what makes you think, that the software of the BROne can not be updated? MM There is a tv - and there is a BV.
BR1 updating - if the can get the original software in there, they surely can get an updated version in there too ---- somehow
steve1977:Did my message just disappear? Re-typing... There is no "link", but there is a "product" called "Beo4 Link", which may do what you are looking for.
Mis-understanding - one previous message of mine was never shown in this thread. No clue why.
Anyhow, it appears that there is indeed no "AV" function anymore with the BR One. It is how it is. Would still suggest you give the remote a try (with p.mute instead). I am sure once you start using it, you will never go back to the Beo4...
So - after all - you listened to my advice from above
steve1977:Did my message just disappear? Re-typing... There is no "link", but there is a "product" called "Beo4 Link", which may do what you are looking for. Still two areas that give me some hope? It appears you know what they are, so maybe you can clarify whether worth to explore or a dead end: 1) "Products" - there are four different "Beo4 products": "Beo4 AV", "Beo4 Video", "Beo4 Audio", "Beo4 Link". They can be selected as different "modes" on the same level as "Beovision" (which I understand from my dealer is only relevant if I have an Avant / BV11. But there are the four Beo4 products. 2) "Product options": I can change V.Opt, A.Opt and L.Opt. We commented on the different options for this "product options": Anything to change here, which may bring hope?
Thanks. Can you elaborate more how you use the "AV command" to switch on a BV in audio mode?