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This just came out: http://journal.beoplay.com/index.php/2015/03/taking-the-sound-of-bang-olufsen-to-personal-computing/
I am quite curious to see what kind of an improvement this will bring to the typically bad sound quality of computers and laptops.
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I can't help but be taken back to the Apple/HP partnership years ago.
Let's hope for B&O's sake it turns out differently.
Well it's because until very recently, a lot of HP laptops had BEATS speakers but in but of course with Apple buying BEATS etc.
Whilst i'm not a windows user, I believe HP to be amongst the best of 'that' crop. But it's bizarre as the windows laptop market has fallen the most ever in 2014 whilst sales of the MacBook Pro are increasing continuously. Anyway, no more talk of windows computers from me - i was unfortunate enough to have to use one for 6 months in 2013 at a station and that did it for me - never again. I've been a Mac user for 20 years now :)
I hope B&O don't remove all of the nice MacBook Pro's and iPhones from the B&O websites :(
HP computers are obviously not as good as I maybe thought they were judging by the true hate on B&O's and BANG&OLUFSEN's Facebook pages about the collaboration. Oh dear... Poor B&O they just can't shake their 'windows' history can they!!!
Paul W: HP computers are obviously not as good as I maybe thought they were judging by the true hate on B&O's and BANG&OLUFSEN's Facebook pages about the collaboration. Oh dear... Poor B&O they just can't shake their 'windows' history can they!!!
Pedants and bigots, all!
Ban boring signatures!
HP has no "cool"-factor. Sony has, and with their new POWERS-series avaliable through the PS-network they have unlimted product placement. I had to watch ONE episode before thinking Sony was cool/hip.
If they are going to make this happen, they need to do something with the design of the laptops, not just slap a B&O-mark on it and say that the built-in speakers are better.
"You think we can slap some oak on this thing?"
I've bought an Asus Zenbook with "Bang & Olufsen Icepower". A beautiful, well crafted and usable machine with a matte display... but boy is the sound laughable! Those little things damage B&O's reputation!The 15inch Notebooks from Asus with B&O Icepower are much better even without their seperate subwoofer.Space is not a problem as you can see in smartphones like HTC M-series with their dual speakers or the Blackberry Z30 or Blackberry Passport. It is incredible what they achieved in sound quality and volume - always regarding their size.I was an Apple user for >10 years but the latest development of the company and their products made it easy to switch completely back to Windows.So, let's hope SOMEBODY used his brain and they make something useful out of this partnership.
Boy...Just had a NightMare Dreaming I could buy B&O in something called Currys...Tell me its not True?
But Hope this new partnership goes well for B&O!
I have never heard a laptop with good sound. Never.
And this is a perfect clip to prove how it will never happen also :P
I did business last year with a guy quite high up at HP and was quite surprised with his own choice of laptop in his home - a MacBook Pro (which he loved).
Paul W: I did business last year with a guy quite high up at HP and was quite surprised with his own choice of laptop in his home - a MacBook Pro (which he loved).
Thanks for that - I know someone who works in an Apple store and he has a Samsung Galaxy (which he loves).
Thanks for that info. I know a guy who loves his MacBook because it is supporting Windows...
-and another guy finally found some use for his MacBook Air
Puncher:Paul W:I did business last year with a guy quite high up at HP and was quite surprised with his own choice of laptop in his home - a MacBook Pro (which he loved).Thanks for that - I know someone who works in an Apple store and he has a Samsung Galaxy (which he loves).Ban boring signatures!
StUrrock: Puncher: Paul W: I did business last year with a guy quite high up at HP and was quite surprised with his own choice of laptop in his home - a MacBook Pro (which he loved). Thanks for that - I know someone who works in an Apple store and he has a Samsung Galaxy (which he loves). Ban boring signatures! Thanks for that - I know someone who works in an B&O store and he has a Sonos System (which he loves).
Puncher: Paul W: I did business last year with a guy quite high up at HP and was quite surprised with his own choice of laptop in his home - a MacBook Pro (which he loved). Thanks for that - I know someone who works in an Apple store and he has a Samsung Galaxy (which he loves). Ban boring signatures!
If I ran a restaurant I wouldn't eat there every night!
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Simonbeo:If I ran a restaurant I wouldn't eat there every night! Beo Century ,Beoplay V1, Beocenter 6, Ex-Beolit 12, Beotime , A8 , MX 5500 .
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http://www.macrumors.com/2015/03/24/hp-beats-bang-and-olufsen/
BeoNut since '75
Talking 'bout blaming customers..?
http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/24/apple-responds-over-iphone-4-reception-issues-youre-holding-th/
http://www.maketecheasier.com/solving-apple-macbooks-perpetual-overheating-problem/
Who would need a great sounding computer? Headphones are invented for a reason. IMHO all ipads should be without speakers. How annoying is people playing movies on flights etc at full volume without headphones!
Too long to list....
I agree with you, Bayerische. Mobile devices should only have speakers for notifications :P
I totally disagree, I love walking around my house with my iPhone playing music. I think it's lovely the amount of kids you see enjoying their music from their iPhones with their friends.
The only plus point from this HP thing is that maybe they'll help B&O with their software. Who knows. MAYBE This is the supplier of that iPad wanna be thing in the Moment! But at the same time B&O associated with HP. How awful. Cheap Windows computers. Still the Windows nerds on this forum will so happy. Puncher & Steffen got what they deserved!
Paul W: I totally disagree, I love walking around my house with my iPhone playing music. I think it's lovely the amount of kids you see enjoying their music from their iPhones with their friends. The only plus point from this HP thing is that maybe they'll help B&O with their software. Who knows. MAYBE This is the supplier of that iPad wanna be thing in the Moment! But at the same time B&O associated with HP. How awful. Cheap Windows computers. Still the Windows nerds on this forum will so happy. Puncher & Steffen got what they deserved!
Firstly, anyone playing music in public from either phone or tablet without headphones and without the express permission of everyone within earshot deserves punching in the face from every single man woman and child within reach! Maybe you and your friends won't mind if I stand close by and whistle tunes none of you want to hear, - it's ignorance of the highest order!
I laughed when I read that I'm a windows nerd! What I am is a pragmatic Electronics Engineer of long standing who recognizes that operating systems are just that, they are not a religion! I don't feel the need to wear T-shirts with it emblazoned across the front or high five anyone I pass it the street who has the same phone as me, nor saw WOW! or type in CAPITAL letters or rhyme off whole strings of designer labels believing readers will be either impressed or envious.
As I may have mentioned in the past, if Apple has a problem at all, it's not the hardware or the OS, they're just as good and bad as others available, the problem is the Macite followers who believe it is a real part of real life and insist on continuously bleating on about it to others - honestly we're not interested and we're sick of it being constantly introduced into seemingly any and every unrelated discussion!
Paul W: I totally disagree, I love walking around my house with my iPhone playing music. I think it's lovely the amount of kids you see enjoying their music from their iPhones with their friends.
Me too, not so much music, but many times before I go to bed, I have a podcast playing from the speaker on my iphone on a timer on the bedside table. I don't like headphones very much, so this tiny tinny speaker is just fine.
Puncher is also right, that anyone playing audio loud enough for it to be heard by folks around them is being downright inconsiderate.
Back to topic, I can analogize this HP partnership to B&O's rather successful venture into car audio. They're likely going to be making components for a specific setting / situation / hardware, this time, consumer computing devices rather than cars. I'm sure B&O have ideas on making acoustics from small, thin hardware better than we ever thought possible. Heck, maybe when their exclusivity agreement is over, B&O can license their wares to other manufacturers.
Will we see acoustic lenses popping up from clamshell laptops?
Here's just a thought.....perhaps HP helped B&O develop the software for the BeoSound Moment and also provided them with the tablet that they use to build the Moment? Maybe HP is still involved in developing the software? So B&O in return has agreed to partner up with them and provide them sound systems (if you can call them that) for there products as well as adding prestige to the HP brand?
BenSA:Here's just a thought.....perhaps HP helped B&O develop the software for the BeoSound Moment and also provided them with the tablet that they use to build the Moment? Maybe HP is still involved in developing the software? So B&O in return has agreed to partner up with them and provide them sound systems (if you can call them that) for there products as well as adding prestige to the HP brand?
Beosound Stage, Beovision 8-40, Beolit 20, Beosound Explore.
The software for the moment has been developed by an App agency in New York. There's a link to it on the the Moment's web page.
I don't think there is much more to read in the announcement than what it says... B&O will help them with the sound on their machines, and have a Sound by B&O sticker on them.
Beoworld app with direct photo upload and emoticons.
Just another costumer - that can't be bad.
Seems like they have more trust in the skills of (and a future for) B&O, than many Beoworlders have.
MM
There is a tv - and there is a BV
Bang & Olufsen degrades its luxurious image with HP.
Bang & Olufsen should work simply with Apple.
Are BeoPlay customers using HP notebook ?
I doubt...
Millemissen:Just another costumer - that can't be bad. Seems like they have more trust in the skills of (and a future for) B&O, than many Beoworlders have.
I keep wondering why so many people keep hammering on the Moment's software. What do you want of it ? Using it to make a Word document or a Excel file probably? Or the opportunity to send a email?
The Moment does everything what its constructed for and does it in a fast and correct way, I'm really not missing a thing. I really don't understand you folks.
"Believe nothing you read and only half of what you see, let your ears tell you the truth."
Chris: I keep wondering why so many people keep hammering on the Moment's software. What do you want of it ? Using it to make a Word document or a Excel file probably? Or the opportunity to send a email? The Moment does everything what its constructed for and does it in a fast and correct way, I'm really not missing a thing. I really don't understand you folks.
BeoBoy68: Bang & Olufsen degrades its luxurious image with HP. Bang & Olufsen should work simply with Apple. I doubt...
I'm not sure Apple would add much to B&O's "luxury" value.
I'm fairly sure Apple isn't in need of Bang & Olufsen. What would B&O bring to Apple? Don't say "good sound" as it's impossible in say the new Macbook. Desktop speakers? Apple has messed with those, and frankly I wouldn't touch their previous designs with a 6' pole.
Chris:I keep wondering why so many people keep hammering on the Moment's software. What do you want of it ? Using it to make a Word document or a Excel file probably? Or the opportunity to send a email? The Moment does everything what its constructed for and does it in a fast and correct way, I'm really not missing a thing. I really don't understand you folks. " Believe nothing you read and only half of what you see, let your ears tell you the truth. "
Chris T. - don't you think that, if B&O had had the intension of making an interface with a direct search function for Deezer (like the Deezer app), they could have done so?
But they had something different in mind with the interface - they wanted to make a different acess to music possible (via Moodwheel/PatternPlay).
Those of us, who primarily 'depend' on a direct search function for artists, albums etc in a music service, won't be pleased with, what the Moment offers.
Time will tell, if the (direct) search function will be changed (means: optimized) in a future sw update.
However, I am quite sure that it is never going to be the primary way of interacting with the device.
It is first of all a 'jukebox' with access to a lot of music. One, that (self-contained) will suit your taste and preferences - and not an app for searching in a large database (your own and that of Deezer).
I am sure, that a lot of the users will like it that way.
leosgonewild:Why B&O would partner up with HP is for me unbelievable.
Very believable. Why? Money. B&O simply needs the cash.
As for the 'scandal' you mention, B&O's customer services have, over the years, placed technical issues firmly in the hands of the user, rather than themselves. I was told for months that the many BV7-40 Sky issues were nothing to do with B&O and were either mine, Sky's or another third-party problem, but not theirs. We have short memories. This isn't the B&O of old.
Chris Townsend:The price and tablet are largely irrelevant to an extent, but It's software has to be more up to date, something I have confidence it will achieve. Do you currently use say Spotify yourself?
Do you currently use say Spotify yourself?
I'm not defending at all the use of a Moment if your perfectly happy with the iPad, this is something very personal. But using this iPad combo did not pleases me, in fact not even from the beginning. Let me tell you why.
I had a wall full of CD's and vinyl, and a a certain time when my children grow up they begon to laugh at me, they thought I was very oldish, I know this sound foolish but it got me thinking and actually at the end they ware absolutely right.
So I started building a new 'recordstore' on my server, ripping all of my collection and move the goods to the attic. Next tried to use a iPad with airplay to stream a part of my collection, but it It soon became clear that was a halfway solution, the battery ran out quickly, you had to put it on a charger and gone was the flexibility, some other family member(s) needed it to program the settopbox, or to play a game, collect mail... Damn, I don't want a second iPad, enough portable Apple stuff here.
So next I shopped for a (not so cheap) solution, a Mac mini exclusively to use for my music collection, Amarra software on it and connected to a very good USB-DAC. All of this remotely operated by an old iPod Touch lying around with the Itunes Remote app. The sound this combo gives me was good, actually very good but I struggled with my collection because the need for iTunes, absolutely rubbish software placing your albums anywhere in a directory, strewed sometimes your files where you don't want to... I had no control at all, Apple had the control.
So slowly I was looking for another, better solution. Linn, T+A... or any other streamer? In fact the search was to find a streamer who is capable to read my files of a directory build the way I liked it, and gives me nice sound without any complex proceedings. But then suddenly in the middle of my search and listening for another device, came the rumours B&O had a music streamer in the pipeline... And I would prefer to keep things B&O as much as I can.
Ok, I had a bit of a hard time at first to install the Moment at home, not much information was given by my dealer, the user manual looks more like a leaflet... But now after some trial and error it seems this is exactly what I was looking for. And Yes, I had Spotify, used it for two years and it was very good, especially in searching for new music, but again I allways needed a second device to use it on my equipment and stream it by that Ipad (Where is that iPad, who is using it now, oh... You're busy with it...).
I'm perfectly happy now with that Moment, I operates without faults and plays all-day my music, collecting it from the server in a way I want. Imported my Spotify playlist to Deezer, I can also make my own personal playlists on it and playlists on the server, I can switch to Deezer without going in search for another free lying around Apple device in the house, I even can listen to music stations thousands of miles away... and the most important its MY own portable device when I need it.
Next the Multiroom affair, and it will be the perfect companion in the house. My kids telling me I'm evolving finally.
Sorry for the spelling mistakes.