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As I don't yet have a sound system, I continue to be town between a Moment and a Beosound 5. Since I have a NL setup currently (BV11), I'd need a NL/ML converter should I go with a Beosound 5. The NL/ML Converter would kill two birds with one stone as it would also allow me to connect a Beogram 6500 turntable to via the RCA jacks in the converter too.
When I had an old Avant and BS9000 connected via masterlink, the TV wouldn't turn on /off, the screen would remain off and the audio would play through the speakers connected to the Avant.
My current setup: BV11 connected via powerlink to BL9 as L and R speakers.
The question I have is how an NL setup would behave in real life. For example, if I selected the Beosound 5 from the Beo4 via a prespecified button, would the BV11 turn on and then turn off again, but play the audio through connected speakers? Or would it behave as my old Avant masterlink set up did, the avant wouldn't really "do" anything apart from distributing the sound to the speakers.
Would the behavior be the same if I selected AAUX to listen to the beogram turntable connected to the ML/NL converter?
Ideally, I would love it if the real life behavior with an ML/NL converter would remain the same as if connected with masterlink only, that is, the TV would appear "do" nothing. I think I have read somewhere that the TV might briefly turn on and off again as it detects an audio only source selected. If this is the case, I think this isn't very elegant.
Thanks in advance for your answers.
Livingroom: BL3, BL11, BV11-46 Kitchen: Beosound 1 GVA, Beocom 2 Bathroom: M3 Homeoffice: M3, Beocom 2 Library: Beosound Emerge, Beocom 6000 Bedroom: M5, Essence remote Travel: Beoplay E8 2.0, Beoplay EQ, Beoplay Earset
Hiort, thanks for this information. Between yesterday and today, I've done a lot of reading and research between the Moment and the BS5/BM5. Thanks to you know I know the behavior is the same between the two setups, ie. Moment via NL along vs. BS5/BM5 via an ML/NL converter box. Less than ideal that the screen turns on and then off again, but c'est la vie.
What would the behavior be when connecting a BS5 directly via ML to an BV5? Also screen-on/off? If not, is it fair to say that ML has still quite a significant advantage over NL?
steve1977: What would the behavior be when connecting a BS5 directly via ML to an BV5? Also screen-on/off? If not, is it fair to say that ML has still quite a significant advantage over NL?
Steve, I had an Avant (old masterlink version, and then a Beovision 8 as well) and a BS9000 connected only via masterlink with external speakers attached to the avant/Beovision 8. When I pressed CD to activate the Beosound, nothing would happen on the Avant / BV8 screen. The Beosound would turn on, and sound would come from the connected speakers. Neither the Avant nor the Beovision screen would turn on at all.
I'd be confident to say that you would experience the same with your Beovision 5 connected to a BS5/BM5 (a purely masterlink connected system).
There is a difference between the two. ML just starts to play and will not give info to the screen of a ML BV, because it simple can't. On the other hand if you choose a audio source in NL it can give additional information. See the picture below. Note: this is shown after a JOIN command between two NL BV. But for sure one can expect more info and from different devices in the future. For example if I play my BS3000 CD it also tells which track number of the CD is playing. So it is simply normal to just have a short time that info of the connection and what is played can be seen. After that the NL BV screen blacks out. Press a button and you can expect the info again!
I would say for the purpose of NL a normal procedure.
Carolpa is absolutely right.
It is a very nice feature to have this or rather these info/s on the screen.
Do remember, that you (if you want to) also can see the hight of the volumen, and you can have a feedback, if you want to change the Speaker Group etc. etc.
Years ago, as I went from the Avant (old) to the BV8, I missed the display on top, which showed me volumen, source, track info....
The screen of the BV8 is just dumb
I regard the new way of using the screen for infos (there is - as Carolpa writes - probably more to come) as a huge step for interfacing with your setup. Very nice, I think.
The screen turns on, but not as much as needed for a normal tv etc picture - and it turns off quite quickly.
In fact - some time ago it was given as a suggestion for the SW guys in Struer, that it should be possible to choose your own time-out for the muting of the screen. If that would become reality, you might even choose to display nothing at all. Personally I would rather choose a longer period before the screen mutes - as I like it.
If you are concerned about vaste of energy, you will surely be able to find something in your house, that could be energy-optimized without loosing convenience.
MM
There is a tv - and there is a BV
steve1977:What would the behavior be when connecting a BS5 directly via ML to an BV5? Also screen-on/off? If not, is it fair to say that ML has still quite a significant advantage over NL?
Raeuber: steve1977: What would the behavior be when connecting a BS5 directly via ML to an BV5? Also screen-on/off? If not, is it fair to say that ML has still quite a significant advantage over NL? With BV5 the screen will not switch on, this wouldn't make much sense at all. With the old Avant and BV7 you get some information from a display, nice feature. Yes, it's an advantage of ML over NL.
With BV5 the screen will not switch on, this wouldn't make much sense at all. With the old Avant and BV7 you get some information from a display, nice feature. Yes, it's an advantage of ML over NL.
Thanks, this is great!!! What do you mean by "With the old Avant and BV7 you get some information from a display"? I thought it would not turn on?
steve1977:Thanks, this is great!!! What do you mean by " With the old Avant and BV7 you get some information from a display"? I thought it would not turn on?
These had small dot matrix displays either on top of the tv or respectively in the right side of the glass panel, that covers the screen.
Nice feature at that time, when only little (feedback) information was needed - but certainly something, that increased the production costs of the tv sets
The screen itself did not turn on.
On some older speakers (e.g. BeoLab Penta) there were similar displays.
lonfred:For most people also at this time I belive that the little information that these displays was given is enough and perfect. These displays was also a thing that did BO to something extra.
I agree.. I LOVED the small LED Dot matrix display on top of the avant, I also liked the button panel behind the display, which had among other buttons, volume and standby. These two tiny features were very useful. Small touches like this, even something as simple as the red standby light, which is now missing from the current TV options, seems to diverge from the B&O usability and aesthetic.
The killer feature of the BV7
Sal-
You can connect your turntable to the BeoSound 5 and use the A.AUX command to pass the turntable audio through the BeoSound 5 as audio master. You just need to buy a special usb to RCA adapter that connects to the BeoMaster 5. You can rename A.AUX to "Turntable" on the Beo6. This is what I do.