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we tend to forget there is more to design than designing.
Mark, sounds like 'snake oil' to me - like the Oxygen free cables that cost hundreds of pounds. Is it supposed to 'clean' the electricity somehow and make the music sound better?
What is the rationale behind this and surely the manufacturer should provide some evidence of efficacy?
Surely a 13 amp fuse isn't correct anyway for Hi-fi use?
http://www.whathifi.com/forum/hi-fi/hi-fi-tuned-fuse
I assume it's this one:
http://www.analogueseduction.net/hi-fi-tuning-fuses/hi-fi-tuning-gold-plated-silver-ceramic-fuse-13-amp.html
One glowing review of the difference it makes to his CD player. If I paid £35 for a fuse, I'd tell everyone it was fantastic too! Placebo effect without a doubt. I'd love for someone to do a proper test on these with figures to match. The producers of these should have this available but I can't see any. They also have some fuses for 80€!
Dave.
Definitely snake oil.
But many are sure they can hear differences as they do with fancy power cables, so...
Give those a wide berth,
Jacques
So, after traveling hundreds of miles over ordinary "junk" wire, the last meter of power cable makes a difference?
And contrary to marketing claims from wire makers, linear crystal, oxygen free copper wire does not sound better or conduct better nor was it made at the behest of the wire makers...LC/OFC wire was invented for the aircraft and car industries, as it survives constant bending and flexing without developing cracks and breaking, something important in rugged environments like cars and aircraft have to operate in.
Jeff
I'm afraid I'm recovering from the BeoVirus.
I can't help smiling when I hear about people worrying about their amplifiers power cord etc. - in other words they worry about thelast 2 meters of power cable but not the wall outlet, switch, in-wall cabling etc. let alone the 20km cable with a couple of transformers tothe power plant and whatever goes on there.I'm sure, you can find people who at the speaker end can tell a sonical difference from solar, wind and coal based electricity.
35 pounds should buy you a decent bottle. Not only will it be money better spent, it will also give you a pleasure, you canmeasure (and maybe even actually feel).
Martin
Oh, Jeff beat me this time.
Dillen: Oh, Jeff beat me this time. Martin
Doesn't hurt to say it twice Martin!
A couple of years ago the copper cables for the power grid in our street was stolen various times, as a result the power provider has now changed the cables in the whole street to aluminum (aluminium), this fits better to the B&O design, and I think some of the aluminum speakers sounds better.
Here a pic where you can see a typical Mexican power supply
Collecting Vintage B&O is not a hobby, its a lifestyle.
When I was in Cozumel years ago, they were building a pedestrian bridge over the street from the hotel to the small docks. Why I have no idea, it's not like there was anything more than one or two cars an hour that drove by. Anyway, the power line hung down low there, about a foot over the walkway, and sure enough the next day they came and put the railing on, over the power line. YOu'd have to remove the railing and raise the powerline or cut the powerline and remove it to get it to go over the bridge. Just amazing.
I wonder how the power line thieves manage not to get themselves killed. I guess it is easier when power interruptions are a norm. Over here, the power lines are monitored and the repair patrol would probably be there before the cut cable has been wound up for transport.
Copper plated window sills and hand guards of public buildings, and cable reels on construction sites have become open prey, however. It'll only take a few hours before the van with Romanian or Lithuanian foreign license plates has taken the ferry over to Estonia, never to be seen again. Hail EU and free movement of people and goods...
--mika
Back to the fuse thing, i agree can't see how it would make any difference, better to buy a surge protection board and protect your equipment if you want to buy anything - maybe those make a difference as they even out the supply, but a fuse, i cannot see how it would have any impact as it is the end of the chain not the start, is all you can do at the end of a chain is filter I would have thought.
I dont know if 13amp is too high as the fuse protects the power cable not the equipment, there should be internal fuses in the equipment to protect it. However I have been always told to use 3 or 5amp fuses for hifi as the current they use is low. Maybe someone with more knowledge could comment? I use 3 for the hifi stuff and 5 for my TV's
Companies like this who prey on the needy and the deluded should be prosecuted for making false claims.
Ban boring signatures!
Probably more important to make sure you have soft blow fuses in your amplifier if specified by the manufacturer.
They cost about 50p.
Graham
tournedos:foreign license plates
This would be a paradise for them
"Believe nothing you read and only half of what you see, let your ears tell you the truth."