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Beomaster 8000 turned itself on

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Lee
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Lee Posted: Sun, May 3 2015 4:58 PM
Hi guys,

My Beomaster 8000 just turned itself on. The remote wasn't touched I was just sat here watching TV when the radio started playing.

It did this once before a few weeks ago but I convinced myself that I must have pressed a button on the remote. Now I'm not so sure..

Any ideas?

Lee

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John replied on Sun, May 3 2015 9:10 PM

I have a Beocenter 7002 similar age to your set, my energy saving bulbs send enough interference to switch set on or off. This usually happens < 2 minutes after lights are switched on.  Different signals as the bulbs age, often just the "wait" light flashes,  Of course it is possible there may be other faults in the set or remote control to cause this.

   John.

 

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geearr replied on Mon, May 4 2015 2:17 AM

 

Lee

Had the same problem a few years ago - my BM8000 would simply switch on for no apparent reason.  In my case it turned out to be a problem with the remote.  Removed the battery from the remote and the problem stopped.

I found that the battery voltage was low, so I cleaned the terminals and put in a new battery - problem disappeared.  Now I always remove the battery from the remote when I don't intend using it for a long time.

Check to see if this solution works for you

Regards

Geoff

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Lee replied on Mon, May 25 2015 12:55 PM
Hi Guys,

Well that's the third time the BM8000 has turned itself on. It's not the remote as I don't have a terminal 8000 just a IR code converter and the Beo4 and that was unplugged from the power.

I don't think it's interference on the power lines as it's plugged into an expensive surge suppressor and power line conditioner.

This time it started up on radio P2 and it was P1 last time.

Any ideas?

Lee

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Dillen replied on Mon, May 25 2015 2:44 PM

Could be an unstabile 5V supply to the processor.
There is a capacitor fitted to the 5V regulator on the small right side cooling fin, 10uF or so, I've seen this
little component cause many different issues.

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Lee replied on Mon, May 25 2015 6:18 PM

Hi Martin,

Thanks for the reply. The 10uF cap was replaced recently so I don't think its that... Any more suggestions?

Lee

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Jason replied on Mon, May 25 2015 11:22 PM

I had the same issue a few months ago before I'd finished my restoration, never found the exact cause but after I changed the regulator and cap, also under the cpu can resoldered most connections, changed cap and made recommended bridges it seemed to resolve it, although if I remember right I was in there to try and solve an intermitent tuner issue where it would stick on auto tuning( but fine on manual ) . Never did resolve that and still remains a mystery but it's never turned itself on since.

i think the bm8000 really wanted a timer fitted😂

 

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Jason replied on Mon, May 25 2015 11:55 PM

I think I'd added a 100nf ceramic cap and changed the regulator 6 ic4 just to be sure instead of just replacing the cap like for like

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Lee replied on Tue, May 26 2015 11:16 AM
The 5v regulator and the cap are new. Is that 100uf cap in addition to the 10uf cap Jason?

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Jason replied on Tue, May 26 2015 1:14 PM

Nf not uf

its in addition

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Jason replied on Tue, May 26 2015 1:22 PM

I'll send the 100nf with your cable

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jvezina replied on Tue, May 26 2015 5:25 PM

Good afternoon,

I remember a long time ago somebody who reported the same problem in a forum (perhaps not even in Beoworld) .

He solved it by covering the IR receiver of his BM 8000 with black tape when it was not in use. The possible source of the problem was that something in the house produced the IR pattern that turns the BM8000 on (fluorescent light, other remote, etc). Apparently, the IR codes used by the BM 8000 are simple to the point that other equipment in the house could produce them accidentally. IR remote control systems were in their beginning when the BM 8000 was designed.

 

Hoping that this will help.

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Lee replied on Wed, May 27 2015 11:08 AM
Thanks Jason, I'll fit it as soon as it arrives.

And cheers for the tip Jean, I will keep it covered and see if it makes a difference Smile
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Lee replied on Thu, May 28 2015 12:20 PM
Had the IR sensor covered up and it still turned itself on this morning.... aaaaaarrrrgggghhhh Sad
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Jason replied on Thu, May 28 2015 12:25 PM

Have you fitted the 100nf ?

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Jason replied on Thu, May 28 2015 12:29 PM

In the meantime I guess you could store the volume setting at zero so your not scared out of your wits if it turns itself on in the middle of the night 😉

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Dillen replied on Thu, May 28 2015 1:03 PM

Disconnect all Beocord/Beogram (all datalink products) and try again.

Martin

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Lee replied on Thu, May 28 2015 2:38 PM
I'm still waiting for it Jason. I have set the startup volume to 0 though.... Good tip!!!

Thanks Martin I will give that a try :-)

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Lee replied on Thu, May 28 2015 4:26 PM
It's just done it again. This time on P9. It seems to be getting more often....
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Jason replied on Thu, May 28 2015 4:38 PM

Was p9 the last station you'd been listening to?

have you trying disconnecting the keyboard?

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Lee replied on Thu, May 28 2015 4:39 PM

Hi Jason,

No the last station I was listening to was P1...

I haven't tried that yet... I will now though :-)

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Lee replied on Wed, Jun 17 2015 2:38 PM
Well it's just turned itself on again :-(

I thought I'd cured it with the 100uf cap but it appears not.

Lee

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Jason replied on Wed, Jun 17 2015 6:48 PM

Sorry to hear that lee,

I take it though that it has happened less since the added cap ?

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Lee replied on Wed, Jun 17 2015 6:58 PM

Hi Jason,

Yes its the first time it's done it in 2-3 weeks. Wonder if those big caps on the PSU board need changing....

Lee

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Dillen replied on Wed, Jun 17 2015 8:31 PM

Did you fit 100nF or 100uF ?

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Lee replied on Wed, Jun 17 2015 9:12 PM

My bad Martin, I meant I've fitted a 100nF cap that Jason kindly sent me.

Lee

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Jason replied on Wed, Jun 17 2015 9:24 PM

Sorry I can't be more help, mine had stopped turning itself on after I added the ceramic 100nf cap and resoldered points and made bridges on the cpu board.

id already replaced the large power supply caps

hope this is useful

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Lee replied on Wed, Jun 17 2015 11:03 PM

Thanks for all your help Jason, I'm sure it will be something simple... its just finding it haha

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