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Hi there,
Have a request from my boss- he has recently moved to a new house, and has some nice b and o penta speakers, a broken b&o 6 cd system...
He needs some repairs, and advice on how to connect them all, and is happy to pay...
Any ideas of any suitable companies/people in the area?
cheers
Jeff
AVA Services in Crawley have a good reputation.
01293 611 590
Regards Graham
Is your boss the laziest person in the world? Has he never heard of Google or using a telephone?
Ditto Graham, AVA are located next door to ********AV who are always happy to help out.
Would appear this young man has been given this task to complete by his Boss, not that his boss if inordinately lazy!
If my boss asked me to sort out what is obviously a personal matter then I would politey remind him where my job ends - unless this is part of a paid remit in work time from the company owner of course. BTW there is absolutely no indication from the OP whether he is young or old downtrodden or simply lazy himself. That's what happens when one makes assumptions or relies on appearances, invariably assumptions or appearances turn out to be wrong!
Chris.
As a member of BeoWorld, I am absolutely appalled at the unnecessary mean spiritedness and hostility of this response! And from a site moderator at that!
I can't even believe that any member of this site, never mind a moderator, would extend such a condescending and critical response to any fellow member who obviously, just for the first time, reached out to us for some simple and obviously much needed guidance! In checking inquiring member Wiggster's profile, it appears that he or she is a new member and that this post is their first. Nice welcome, huh!
Furthermore, if you've ever wondered why, among a membership that reaches into the thousands and a daily view count of 5,000, comparatively few members post questions to the BeoWorld Forum, then perhaps this is a good example of why.
I've been a member of BeoWorld for a few years now and it is my opinion that there are far too many instances of unnecessary criticism being included with responses at members who are simply asking questions. And is that not what the Forum is for?
Member and Moderator Medogsfat/Chris should do the right thing and extend and apology to member Wiggster. And as for those who own and/or manage this site, perhaps it's time for this guy to be stripped of his moderator status.
Michael
Well said, Michael
Comments like that (Medogsfat's) would be expected from some members -but a moderator..?
Sometimes it's better to just shut up...
Chris is always getting nasty whenever KOS shows up! Not sure why but is there any competition/hostility between "resellers" here on this forum?
Brengen & Ophalen
No, he's quite capable in fact. He has looked around, but when talking to him over a coffee last week, I mentioned that I was a member of a b and o community, and I would ask for any advice or recommendations. Previously whenever I have posted, the replies have been useful and insightful.
I would wonder why you would feel the need to respond at all, seeing as you evidently have nothing to add.
Best,
Thanks for the support Michael, I was a little surprised at the hostility received.
I have actually been a member for a number of years, and have contributed questions and answers, mostly in relation to vintage equipment I have owned over the years. I have contributed with manuals and schematics when I saw requests, and have in turn asked for help locating various odds and ends, including speaker cone replacement kits and mmc20 stylus.
I was also a gold member for a number of years, and enjoyed participating in various discussions when I had more time and equipment to tinker with.
He spirit of the members was always very helpful, hence the reason for my post, after chatting to one of my senior managers about various equipment he owned, and his desire to get them connected again, I thought what better place to ask for some friendly advice.
I won't take it personally though, and hope its not indicative of the membership attitude. All the best,
Thanks for the tip, joeyboygolf
I have to say Chris is usually extremely helpful and friendly. Maybe just a bad day at the office....
Cheers
Nigel
Wiggster: I won't take it personally though, and hope its not indicative of the membership attitude. All the best, Jeff
I have removed this post as Graham has modified his - other Members took offence to a statement made by Medogsfat (Chris) before I had even posted anything!
I get it, missed this
Hardly worth worrying about is it, nothing I have written is contentious or will be provacative in return, actually see the point Chris is making, everything else is over my head, life is too short.
Wiggster: I would wonder why you would feel the need to respond at all, seeing as you evidently have nothing to add. Best, Jeff
If you're talking about me, I and others have to read this kind of crap and it's not the first time!
Leslie, please note that Chris (medogsfat) had commented on Graham's initial post - it has nothing to do with me whatsoever and it appears that Graham has mistaken it for something to do with me and Chris - the comment Chris made initially was made before I had even posted and was directed at the OP rather than me!
Then I must apologize to Chris and read posts like these more carefully. On the other hand it bothers me reading posts with such kind of discussions or comments! We have been seeing these kind of discussions before remember...and don't forget, this is an international forum.
In regard to KingOf Snakes: "Hardly worth worrying about is it, nothing I have written is contentious or will be provacative in return, actually see the point Chris is making, everything else is over my head, life is too short."
I can't disagree more KingOf Snake.
My June 9, 2012 1:51 AM excoriation of site moderator Medogsfat / Chris's comment of:
"Is your boss the laziest person in the world? Has he never heard of Google or using a telephone?",
in response to member Wiggster's simple question is, in my opinion, very much "worth worrying about". Furthermore, I, personally, can find no reason in agreeing with you in your opinion that you "actually can see the point that Chris is making".
And his point is???
What I believe that some of those who contribute to the discussion on the BeoWorld Forum on a regular basis don't understand is that many of us who are members, are reluctant to contribute for fear of being criticized. Read this blog enough and one can easily come to the conclusion that any effort to field a question might result in being the recipient of an unnecessary and cruel comment. Let's face it, this forum is not about politics or religion or social issues. It is about something that we members resort to to help us forget about all of those contentious intrusions on our lives. There really is no need to go negative when discussing the delights that we extract from our Bang & Olufsen sound systems. And believe me, we DO need advice on occasion from those of you who know so much more then we about maintaining our vintage B&O!
Despite the fact that we live in the 'information age', I, as well as others, are somewhat uncomfortable putting ourselves out there via a post on a (in this instance) heavily visited web forum. Add to that some modicum of potential for an undeserved slap-down of criticism and negativity and I, many times, just decide to keep my comments and questions to myself.
In regard to Medogsfat / Chris' comment in response to Wiggster's question about where his boss could have his vintage B&O equipment adeptly repaired within his area of residence replied to with: "Is your boss the laziest person in the world? Has he never heard of Google or using a telephone?"; why would any member of this Forum, never mind a site moderator, suggest that this member 'engage in an exhaustive search of Google, or pick up a telephone'? Again, why the hell do you think we made the decision to join, and in many instances, PAY to be a member of this community??
Again, moderators have to be held to a higher level of accountability.
Medogsfat was totally out of line!
Michael, thanks for taking the time for the considered reply. I understand but we are approaching two different things entirely! Read on.......
I had commented that
Ditto Graham, AVA are located next door to ********AV who are always happy to help out (my Company name was deleted by others).
Would appear this young man has been given this task to complete by his Boss, not that his boss if (sic) inordinately lazy!
In return Medogsfat wrote
For the avoidance of doubt, I have underlined the relevant lines - it was a reference to my post when I had 'assumed' that the poster was a young man (how wrong of me). The rest of the post is a bit of a dig at me but I haven't got time to work it out or even bother considering it. As it happens my assumption turned out to be right, I take it Jeff is a man during the working week - it is his business what he does at weekends! 'Young' was just flattery.
Please understand the context of the summary of my statement:
"Hardly worth worrying about is it, nothing I have written is contentious or will be provacative in return, actually see the point Chris is making, everything else is over my head, life is too short.
That is a completely different matter to that which you feel strongly about and to which I was not answering! Maybe the bloke had a bad day or was just letting of steam, we all say or write things that, with the benefit of hindsight, could be better put. There is no point, in my view (although you are entitled to yours of course), getting the guy hung, drawn and quartered.
So in the spirit of the post let me make a point on another assumption - and this was the point I agreed with - that why didn't the Boss just use a search engine to find out himself instead of leaving it to an employee?!!? I countered that point because some Bosses are lucky enough to be cash rich and time poor and to delegate such tasks to helpful employees. I long for the day!
Michael: What I believe that some of those who contribute to the discussion on the BeoWorld Forum on a regular basis don't understand is that many of us who are members, are reluctant to contribute for fear of being criticized. Read this blog enough and one can easily come to the conclusion that any effort to field a question might result in being the recipient of an unnecessary and cruel comment. Let's face it, this forum is not about politics or religion or social issues. It is about something that we members resort to to help us forget about all of those contentious intrusions on our lives. There really is no need to go negative when discussing the delights that we extract from our Bang & Olufsen sound systems. And believe me, we DO need advice on occasion from those of you who know so much more then we about maintaining our vintage B&O!
Well said Michael!
Not quite sure how this thread got here - I was not able to read the unexpurgated version ! - I think Chris' first post was if anything lighthearted and expressing a degree of sympathy! However it, like many of the following posts, made assumptions that turned out to be false. The OP clearly had offered to help his fellow worker due to a shared interest. And jolly kind it was of him to do so! Sharing outside interests can only make working together more interesting and the ability to help others is something that makes life worthwhile.
I do hope that the system is working now - I will always try to help any member with a question, though I am not around as much as usual due to ever increasing work commitments and because I am renovating triple webers for my car!!
Peter
Peter, long time no hear hope you are well.
You interpret as
lighthearted and expressing a degree of sympathy!
For balance I have said medogsfat was probably just having a bad day.
I wish all posts that I have made previously which people took the wrong way could be dismissed as lighthearted and expressing a degree of sympathy!
Answers on a postcard please..... even offering to assist AVA and the customer and collect the goods has led to my Company name being blanked out; as it happens could have popped in with a van as am due in Windsor anyway.
Anyway, he has dug his own grave and he'll get out of it - any digs at me about 'assuming' and 'appearances' etc. don't even register with me; I haven't retaliated and I won't. Similarly I have just had a stainless exhaust fitted to my car and to be frank it stinks, going to take it for a ride this afternoon!
Leslie, I don't think this was directed at you, moreover at medogsfat